You are going to obliterate everything in your path. Final bosses will look like Level 1 hunts.
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You are going to obliterate everything in your path. Final bosses will look like Level 1 hunts.
saveweyard
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I don't have the game in front of me right now to look at what type A is, but I like having my main action buttons on the triggers. Feels more natural and I can easily press them both while also having access to the face buttons for all my menu commands.
Sure, every little helps. The reason they don't seem super appealing is because food gives such great buffs.
They're totally safe to ignore. Skills like Impervious and Airdance are much more fun/rewarding.
Yeah, I remember feeling quite accomplished when I figured out that screen.
3 levels of horizontal scrolling on a single screen. It's madness!
I'm still surprised that my assessment from the Duscae demo seems to have held. This game feels like the XV team tried to straight up make Dragon Age Inquisition and managed to make it worse in almost every way imaginable.
-Combat is worse with much less actual tactical options (surprising since Inquisition itself had way less than Origins)... Inquisition also had a better fucking camera and no stupid shrubs getting in the goddamned way
-The gameplay loop in this sort of game really relies on your party, and XV's party is infinitely less interesting, and the banter is more sparse than Inquisition anyway. I really don't see myself connecting as much with any of these in the way I did with characters like Cassandra and Iron Bull
-Inquisition at least gave you a bit of a story hook at the beginning... here it's fucking nothing
-At least the environment was more varied in Inquisition, too... you may be doing silly fetch quests in both games but I found the environments and art more interesting in Inquisition at least so far.
I guess at least XV might have the edge in the music department?
But yeah if GAF shits on Inquisition I have no doubt the hate is coming for this game real soon.
-Combat is worse with much less actual tactical options (surprising since Inquisition itself had way less than Origins)... Inquisition also had a better fucking camera and no stupid shrubs getting in the goddamned way
-The gameplay loop in this sort of game really relies on your party, and XV's party is infinitely less interesting, and the banter is more sparse than Inquisition anyway. I really don't see myself connecting as much with any of these in the way I did with characters like Cassandra and Iron Bull
-Inquisition at least gave you a bit of a story hook at the beginning... here it's fucking nothing
-At least the environment was more varied in Inquisition, too... you may be doing silly fetch quests in both games but I found the environments and art more interesting in Inquisition at least so far.
I guess at least XV might have the edge in the music department?
But yeah if GAF shits on Inquisition I have no doubt the hate is coming for this game real soon.
butman
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The truth there. Also DQ are a bit harder.
Fimbulvetr
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The second and third fights in that room are a punishment for not solving the block puzzle properly.
You are going to obliterate everything in your path. Final bosses will look like Level 1 hunts.
I might try to handicap myself in order to make things more difficult. Using weaker gear could do the trick haha.
Control Type B is better than C imo, but at the very least, Control Type A sucks because you can't comfortably both hold down the attack and dodge/defend button at the same time, due to how close the buttons are to one another. Type B has the attack button at Square, and the Dodge button at L1, making it easy for you to get attacks in while holding the dodge button. As a result of that, you get your attacks in, and whenever you get attacked, you just automatically dodge. Becomes much more annoying to pull off when sticking to Control Type A, to the point where I'm honestly baffled that that is considered the default.
autumnleaf
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You ran away from every single random battle and got to the final dungeon on the back of only the unskippable fights?
robertsan21
Member
Question regarding quests.
Im trying to get the Sturdy Helixhorn.
best way to farm it?
Do I need to attack the HORN or any part of the body. just kill it and it will drop?
eat meal that gives 50% increased drop rate
Save just before fight
If it does not drop, load save and repeat?
Im trying to get the Sturdy Helixhorn.
best way to farm it?
Do I need to attack the HORN or any part of the body. just kill it and it will drop?
eat meal that gives 50% increased drop rate
Save just before fight
If it does not drop, load save and repeat?
SoldierOfLight
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Well when you're griding up esrly, it would be difficult to get game over at that point in the game.
I barely entered level 30 yesterday at chapter 7 and got a game over. Only 1 Phoenix down.
Also the reason those monsters are difficult to beat at night is because I don't think you're meant to fight them. Snake at the river, I said nope and avoided it at all costs. If my team is 10 levels lower than the enemy I don't even try to fight them if I can avoid them.
Now if you are level 30 at chapter 4 and get a game over anytime in the next 4 chapters then you messed up.
At that point I'd think your characters will be so monstrous that a simple handicap won't even matter.
YankeeDonB
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Loved Ch. 6 for the genuine road trip feel. Now 7 is topping it with
The open world sidequesting I did in Ch. 2 and 3 was fun, but probably low point for me so far.
Aranea and this fantastic underwater dungeon.
That basically what I did, but I was doing a certain quest that would spawn 2 Duplicorns in a certain area.
To me, having full control of the camera stick, because you don't need to use the face buttons unless you need to use the items.
You don't really need to hold lock on btw, just hold lock and then the button map at the same time and it goes into hard lock.
Across the road from the Wiz Chocobo Post. You should see the track on your map.
It's a little to the southeast of the chocobo ranch. It's a small shop with a billboard saying "chocobo races".
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Indeed. It is the coloured circular curves you see near the chocobo ranch on the map.
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Actually coming around to this game a bit and starting to enjoy it slightly. Even if the characters make me want to turn it off.
I still consider it the worst Final Fantasy game I have ever played though.
I still consider it the worst Final Fantasy game I have ever played though.
I don't remember the Behemoth's level, but it was not difficult at level 40ish where I was.
Yeah, makes sense. One of the biggest changes from Type C to me seems to be having control over the camera while running without having to claw
I guess I could already do this with pressing L3, but pressing L3 is disgusting.
SoldierOfLight
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Yup, first 3 chapters were a drag. Everything from there has picked up. Although I am getting tired of raiding these mobile bases.
Btw that dungeon in spoiler has been toughest for me.
I didn't say anything about lock-on though...
mrmickfran
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That moment when you take down an Iron Giant and think that you're hot shit only for a red Giant to come out and slaughter you.
The DA:I comparison is lazy and superficial dude, you could do this with almost any western RPG in the last 10 years. There isn't the kind of insightful connection you think there is.
Combat is in no way worse. It's many times more engaging, fun, and responsive.
DA:I was a mix of "press A to awesome" and incredibly awkward "tactical" options. It was technically serviceable, but utterly bland and unremarkable.
The brothers have some of the best character interactions I've ever seen in a game. DA:I's characters were a huge step back for the franchise and are incredibly lifeless and dull in comparison.
A couple of characters stood out, but for the first time in a Bioware game I found myself skipping through conversations to just get on with it.
There is story hook in FFXV, the story is disjointed and at times desperately needs more padding, but, to be completely honest, i can't even remember DA:I's story.
FFXV's story may be a mess, but it's much more enjoyable than DA:I. The ending is much, much more satisfying in XV, too.
DA:I had more varied landscapes, but they were so poorly designed and utterly/lifeless that it didn't matter. Exploration was only rewarded by more dull combat and dozens of pointless collectathons.
in comparison, FFXV's world is a joy to move through. Combat is great, movement is fun, dungeons are awesome, random boss type enemies add challenge, items are worth finding, and the open world is littered with pieces of character interaction that are triggered by taking various actions (fishing, fighting, camping, etc...) that it's one of the few open worlds that adds meaningful reward to exploration.
it sure does!
There is goingto be a huge vocal minority who will shit on this game fro ma great hieight forever. Such is the nature of a 10year development cycle and such ridiculous expectation. Those who feel disappointment at that level won't let it go for a looooon time.
However, and I guarantee you this, those who have found joy in the characters, world, combat, and even story (it's a mess at times, but it all comes together incredibly well in the end) will praise this for years to come as a unique experience in the series and gaming in general.
I get that you're disappointed, but the majority seem to disagree.
I just did that chapter and I think it was the first time I felt truly overpowered.
Quadcast Firaga one-shotted the boss.
:lolLoved the guest character though. Great seeing them in action with you.
saveweyard
Banned
Yeah, makes sense. One of the biggest changes from Type C to me seems to be having control over the camera while running without having to claw
I guess I could already do this with pressing L3, but pressing L3 is disgusting.
Wait, is running on circle with Type A? That's gross.
Yep that's such a reductionist argument people have made for years.
None of the FF games are particularly hard games and you coudl get by just abusing moves for much of it. Except Lightning Returns which just happens to be one of the hardest JRPGs out there (I guess this is where someone who hates XIII series asks me that I haven't played many JRPGs have I? And you know what? You'd be wrong LR is tough.)
Oh no, people retroactively hate a game that they spent 40+ hours playing.
Worthless opinions.
I mostly use block to blink and time my weapon switches, so square works for me that way. But yeah, B and C seem to be objectively better, as far as what it gives you access to at any given time.
Honestly, I've seen this comparison a few times, and it only makes me want to play Dragon Age Inquisition. I love Origins, but didn't play Inquisition yet because of the poor reception. If it's as comparable to this game as people make it seem, I'll probably have a blast.
Is the PS4 version good?
EDIT:
Ok, maybe not.
Yep.
I think it's great for stamina refresh, but sucks to controle the camera. Nothing too major, though. Hundreds and hundreds of hours fo playing Souls made me learn to claw very quickly if I need to turn the camera while sprinting.
This sounds great! XIII-2 was such a letdown because they made all of the cool shit from XIII a waste of time, it literally was the press X to win game people accuse XIII of being. Except for the final boss.
Oops, sorry, for some reason I did read lock on there...
robertsan21
Member
The worst thing about FFXV for me personally right now is that it's reignited my appetite for RPGs (both WRPG and JRPG) and I have such a huge backlog, and virtually no free time this coming two/three months.
Deciding whether I should start on Trails in the Sky (YEAH YEAH I KNOW), DA:I, Berseria import, Setsuna retail, or Neptunia VII.
Someone help.
Final boss on normal comes out of nowhere and curbstomps you compared to everything before it.
Deciding whether I should start on Trails in the Sky (YEAH YEAH I KNOW), DA:I, Berseria import, Setsuna retail, or Neptunia VII.
Someone help.
Final boss on normal comes out of nowhere and curbstomps you compared to everything before it.
I've played all three to completion and don't recall LR being any tougher than the other two.
level1
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I just did that chapter and I think it was the first time I felt truly overpowered.
Quadcast Firaga one-shotted the boss.
Loved the guest character though. Great seeing them in action with you.
Ramuh triggered after like 30 seconds here for some reason. Fight was over in a jiffy but it was pretty epic so can't complain
Setsuna!
More gigantic puzzles instead pls
My vote is for Trails in the Sky.
I guess this plays into me having little time since it's a shorter RPG.
I'll probably regret starting Trails in the Sky.
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It's not possible to regret anything about Trails.
Also didn't play Trails, I need to play it urgently. Feels like such a terrible sin. >_>
Honestly, while these are almost pointless, they aren't that hard. Listen, and you can hear the frogs when you're close.
saveweyard
Banned
Tokyo Mirage Sessions. Seriously.
So it's the Seymour Flux of that game.
*winks*
If it helps, I finished it in 35 hours and did most of the side content. Of course, that was just FC and there's reportedly another 50 or so in SC.
Yeah, Setsuna was one of my biggest disappointments of 2016. I was so stoked about it too.
Setsuna is not worth anybody's time. There's nothing special or unique about that game. Competently put together, but has no soul. It's like twenty hours of just going through the motions. It should be at the bottom of any backlog.
Those other games all have some value to playing them at least.
Those other games all have some value to playing them at least.
Tbh even if there were no story issues there would have been people claiming it to be one of the worst FF games out there because that's just how FF fanbase is...divided. One group likes one thing while the other hates the very same thing.
Case in point how there are:
1) People that acknowledge the narrative feels lacking but love the game for its combat and open world because there is so much to do and the world is amazing...while there are people who feel the narrative is lacking and hate the combat and open world because there is nothing to do and the world is lifeless.
2) People who love the game because of the bros then there are people who hate the bros.
3) People who love the ending and it's execution but also people who hate it and it's execution.
My point being this thread is full of people who love one thing and people who hate the same thing and both kind of people want to be vocal and tell the other they are wrong (admittedly the hate side a bit more though). And this is how it is in every single Final Fantasy thread !
Case in point how there are:
1) People that acknowledge the narrative feels lacking but love the game for its combat and open world because there is so much to do and the world is amazing...while there are people who feel the narrative is lacking and hate the combat and open world because there is nothing to do and the world is lifeless.
2) People who love the game because of the bros then there are people who hate the bros.
3) People who love the ending and it's execution but also people who hate it and it's execution.
My point being this thread is full of people who love one thing and people who hate the same thing and both kind of people want to be vocal and tell the other they are wrong (admittedly the hate side a bit more though). And this is how it is in every single Final Fantasy thread !
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