FallingEdge
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For me, I still make gains on my cut because I never stopped making gains on my bulk. I still had a lot left in the tank.
I will watch the vod on Sunday!
I will watch the vod on Sunday!
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Fitness |OT5| Intermittent Farting, Wrist Curls and Hammer Strength Machine Spotters
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Man I wish I could make IF work but my schedule is way too sporadic. I never have that "set working time" and it can change week to week. If I had a normal 9-5 m-f it would be different.
BronzeWolf
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It's heavy squat back to back with deadlift day. Starting Strength is scary motherfucker once you get close to your limits. Today's lifts are:
The main ones:
Squat 310# 3x5 (scared)
Bench 180# 3x5
Deadlift 315# 1x5
And since it's friday, some reward arm work:
Barbell Curls
Something else? I really don't know any arm work beyond barbell curls
I am scared of how toast I will be after a Squat, Bench and Deadlift PR
The main ones:
Squat 310# 3x5 (scared)
Bench 180# 3x5
Deadlift 315# 1x5
And since it's friday, some reward arm work:
Barbell Curls
Something else? I really don't know any arm work beyond barbell curls
I am scared of how toast I will be after a Squat, Bench and Deadlift PR
Infinite_Daremo
Member
IF Question guys.
Ive been hitting macros for cutting but without IF. So 180g Protein/320g of Carbs/~100g of Fats daily (Im 175lb). But i wanna switch to IF.
Now im used to having 4 meals and these meet my macros for IF too. Would it be possible to have 4 meals within the fasting window? Most guides just say 3 meals.
I was aiming for time time window:
12 - Workout
1 - Post workout meal
4 - Meal
9 - Meal
Can i fit a meal in between somewhere? Or will it be detrimental having another meal?
Ive been hitting macros for cutting but without IF. So 180g Protein/320g of Carbs/~100g of Fats daily (Im 175lb). But i wanna switch to IF.
Now im used to having 4 meals and these meet my macros for IF too. Would it be possible to have 4 meals within the fasting window? Most guides just say 3 meals.
I was aiming for time time window:
12 - Workout
1 - Post workout meal
4 - Meal
9 - Meal
Can i fit a meal in between somewhere? Or will it be detrimental having another meal?
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Deleted member 17706
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Would you mind sharing some links about this (Google is failing me)? I don't know what you mean by "real insulin speak," but if this were true, that would pretty much rmean Kiefer's Carb Nite book is a bunch of nonsense (and Carb Backloading, too, to an extent). It also would mean that people have to be extremely careful when coming out of ketosis lest they encounter a situation where they have a prolonged period of very high blood sugar.
My 9-5 conbined with being diabetic makes it hard, and some days it just doesn't work, but I look at it as a philosophy vs. a strict thing.
I'm fine with slow results though.
Host Samurai
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to be fair they are meal replacement bars.
The calories range from 300-400 and have about 10g of fat, 25-30g of carbs and 30g of protein. Not too sure on the sugar but I don't think they are as high as a Snickers bar or anything. Im thinking from 8-12 g of sugar. Depending of flavor of course
A healthier alternative is the Metrix Protein Plus bars, its a bit less dense than the Big 100's but still tasty as fuark
So pound for pound it's right on par with candy bar.
cuevas. PhD.
Member
Have you looked into eat stop eat?
BlueScrote
Member
My general upcoming schedule is:
Now-November-- maintenance
November-April-- Bulk
April--September--Cut, then maintenance.
Getting Married in September so I need to be swole, yet lean.
Host Samurai
Member
BIG 100 has more than double the sugar of a Snickers.
The Chocolate Chip Cookie Dough
Calories - 370
Total Fat - 6 Grams
Carbs - 50 Grams
Sugars - 25 grams
Protein - 28
Not the worst. Decent on a refeed day.
The Protein Plus bars are good too and less dense
Protein Plus Protein Bar Mud Pie Fusion (Met-Rx)
Serving Size: 1 bar, Calories: 300, Fat: 9g, Carbs: 32g, Protein: 32g
Like I said, they taste good and perfect on cheat day giving you some extra protein and carbs for energy on your next lifting day
It's heavy squat back to back with deadlift day. Starting Strength is scary motherfucker once you get close to your limits. Today's lifts are:
The main ones:
Squat 310# 3x5 (scared)
Bench 180# 3x5
Deadlift 315# 1x5
And since it's friday, some reward arm work:
Barbell Curls
Something else? I really don't know any arm work beyond barbell curls
I am scared of how toast I will be after a Squat, Bench and Deadlift PR
Do reverse grip Zollman curlz brah. Get a pump, feel like coming.
I'm convinced that other than stuff like a Base Smolov's Mesocycle, there are few things as hard, scary and mentally taxing than the advance novice stages of SS. You are doing your 5RM on every compound lift every training session.
At any rate, those are great numbers and it's awesome to see you push yourself like this. Kudos my friend. Please let us know how the session went!
And speaking of hard, today I almost passed out after chin-ups. I did 13, 13, 13, 12, 12 and the last couple of sets were a true grind. I was seeing stars afterwards. Last week I did 13, 13, 12, 12, 12 and it was reasonably hard but nothing like this. I blame it on the change of scenery (new gym) and the fact that I didn't eat my mandatory bananas during OHP beforehand.
Why the fuck would I eat a protein bar on a cheat day when I could have something way more delicious?
Quest bars fit into regular cut days, that's the point.
Amen! Preach it brotha!
SquiddyCracker
Banned
Saw a dude doing muscle-ups like a champ today.
I really want to be able to do them, but I don't think I can manage more than 2 or 3 of them in a row.
I really want to be able to do them, but I don't think I can manage more than 2 or 3 of them in a row.
Is that the 2x a week 24hour fast program?
cuevas. PhD.
Member
Yes sir. I like it, it's really flexible.
SquiddyCracker
Banned
Holy shit at this youtube channel:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BS-oRydlnCE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BS-oRydlnCE
Haha, I've done some of those things... 
And what's wrong with 2 or 3 in a row?
Flexible like a gymnast.
cuevas. PhD.
Member
Will do when I get home tonight, you can edit that now haha
SquiddyCracker
Banned
I like to do at least 5 reps of any given exercise, but hey, if 2-3 would do just fine I'll incorporate them too if I can.
Would kinda fulfill the role of dips and pull-ups by the looks of it.
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Deleted member 17706
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Is there any kind of special technique to a muscle up? I tried doing one yesterday by just pulling myself up from a standard pull up, but my body was like, "nope!"
190 on OHP makes me want to go crying to the corner, but at your weight that's especially impressive.
BlueScrote
Member
It sounds interesting, but the website presentation of it seems... pop culture fad like? I guess I don't know how to describe it, just seems style of presenting the information then reliable sources on IF like SilverHydra or Martin Berkhan.
SquiddyCracker
Banned
There is momentum involved to a degree, I think.
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Deleted member 47027
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Sickening! I just jumped up another 10 lbs to 160 OHP. It's a challenge. Feels so bad and good though.
Have been enjoying dumbbell presses though, the overhead type. Wobbly as fuck though!
No crying, just more hard work!
There is technique in a muscle up but most of it is mastering an explosive pull up and months of practice.
cuevas. PhD.
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http://www.leangains.com/2010/09/eat-stop-eat-expanded-edition-review.html?m=1
You use a belt on OHP brosef?
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Deleted member 47027
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I'd just go water only. You might as well strip it down to just water at this point. I've not had anything that didn't have a faint tint of ass to it when it comes to flavoring w/o sugar.
No doubt, I'll be there one day. I'm looking forward to being able to OHP my bodyweight one day. Will be a few years.
Not yesterday. I did last week when I got up 195x4
BlueScrote
Member
Ah, interesting. Given Martin Berkhan glowing review as being legitimate research, I'm surprised the home website is such a pop culture-diet look a like.
I learned not to judge all webpages when I started ordering things from
http://www.prowriststraps.com/home
BlueScrote
Member
Jeeze, I guess so. Scrolling down the page is gets progressively worse. Maybe I'm just spoiled as a web developer and spending a lot of time on tech-related sites.
My lifting buddy, who's also a programmer, told me about it. The page drives him nuts but I gotta say they ship super fast.
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Deleted member 17706
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Hmm... just read this: http://stronglifts.com/squats-exercise-lower-back-pain/
Any opinions from you guys on this?
I do feel a bit sore in my lower back after squatting deep, but I should be stopping around parallel with the lower bar position?
Man... proper squat form has to be like the hardest thing to get right.
I'm just going to have a take a video soon and post it here asking for tips.
Any opinions from you guys on this?
I do feel a bit sore in my lower back after squatting deep, but I should be stopping around parallel with the lower bar position?
Man... proper squat form has to be like the hardest thing to get right.
I'm just going to have a take a video soon and post it here asking for tips.
Brad Pilon has one idea to fence and continues to milk that to this very day. It's a brilliant idea, found completely independently of Martin's conclusions, but it seems he is trying too hard to capitalize on that idea and so cheapens it with the marketing. He doesn't have much more to say beyond his book, but it's an important starting point for making sense of health and nutrition.
Succinct and direct conclusions make Eat Stop Eat a great read and very dependable. Fitness and nutrition needs more of that.
When I get home from work I will get you the url
fredrancour
Member
There is a diagram from ss that shows this. On a low bar squat you stop a bit below parallel bc of the torso angle pointing slightly forward. I think the bar position pic is online on the ss wiki. You use the front of your hip as the measuring point: When the crease bt your thigh and hip gets below your knee you are "below parallel" and go back up. This is noticeably above atg and should be a depth you can reach low-bar wo rounding.
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Deleted member 17706
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Yeah, I've got the book. I guess it's time to read the squat chapter again!
I also think I really need to record myself. The mirrors in the gym don't extend to the ground, so I really can't get a good feel for how I look when squatting while actually doing so. I've just been going as long as I can go in the low bar position, but I'm definitely getting a sore lower back so I'm worried I'm rounding and putting too much stress on my lower back.
Thanks for the advice!
Chittagong
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I can definitely relate to this, my lower back rounding at the very bottom is the hardest problem. This results on sore low back obviously, right after the session and for the next day. I really struggle to get deep on heavy low bar.
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Deleted member 17706
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I'm not even doing anything heavy yet. Just around 110 - 135 lbs including the bar. I want to make sure my form is decent before putting on the weight so I don't hurt myself and put a stop to any lower body exercises until I heal.
Chittagong
Gold Member
Oh man, my mind is so full of fuck if what you say is true... Metabolism is so confusing. I can't imagine losing a gram if my carb refeeds were day or two each week
Host Samurai
Member
1) they are delicious
2) they won't make you bloated
3) fits in with macros (easy 30 grams of protein)
4) satisfies cravings
5) better than having cookies, donuts and candy.
Man I need to find some way to get Quest Bars in the UK on the cheap. Would help me so much when I need to snack.
Or does anyone have any reccomendations for protein bars in the UK? Good Value or Taste (or both!)/
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