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Formula 1 2017 Season |OT| Japanese Horror Story - Sundays on Sky
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Fox Mulder
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It was the diesel gate forcing them to cut spending. Diesel became poison to market, which the Audi ran on.
Wouldn't be a shock to see Porsche pull out too. They've gone 2 for 3 in their return and are safe as the king's for now. Why keep spending tons of money.
JadedWriter
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For some odd reason I never even factored that it. I guess you can't race and promote negative PR at the same time.
Thanks for this. I see they have an access pass for Le Mans, not sure if it's for the race only or if they have it all access up until 18/06/2017, or how it differs from the monthly pass?
Fox Mulder
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Well Renault is a works team now and Redbull has to see the inevitable outcome there.
Them going with Honda would be interesting as they supposedly had interest before only to be blocked by Ron Dennis. Redbull would be sexier for Honda than only being with backmarker Sauber. It's also only a few years until a new engine formula, maybe Honda will do better then. I don't think Honda will be shit forever, this regulation is just stupidly complicated.
Well, Honda was also shit when they used the V8s...
Psychotext
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Can you do us a favour and post your sources on these? Quite often you post these bits of information and yet I have no idea where you find the information from.
Wax Free Vanilla
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That's not very nice.
This latest info is from Japanese F1 journalist Yoneya Mineoki @ sportiva shueisha
Also says Jonathan Neale is in Japan with the top brass from Honda to renegotiate the terms of their contract.
If google is accurate, something about McLaren wanting performance clauses and Honda wanting to put a stop to the gravy train, this must be related to driver salaries?
Butt true.
Fox Mulder
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Jezbollah
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He went to Caterham and got beaten by Ericsson. The guy was just too inconsistent to make it in F1. And I used to be a fan.
scorcher59
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Dat Claro money tho.
Jokes aside I don't think if he had stayed in F1 he would be a contender for the title. Him leaving F1 was the best career move he could've made.
aspiegamer
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That's when Sauber instantly started to tank, too. They had several podiums and top 3 qualifyings in 2012 with Perez/Kobayashi and then... a wet fart ever since. I'll always remember Kobayashi's podium at Suzuka as a feelgood F1 story. He started P2 at Spa that year but was mowed down by the incident RoGro got a race ban for.
Ferrari picked him up as a reserve driver in 2013 but then took the Caterham seat because he was desperate to get in absolutely any car whatsoever. Thankfully Toyota picked him up on the rebound and he does fine in WEC. He and ex-Williams quazi-reject Nakajima have both put in massive work for Toyota across multiple racing series the past few years.
Adam Scott Aukerman
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I think he recently had another surgery that allowed him to rotate his arm in a fashion that allows him to operate inside a single seater cockpit.
Fox Mulder
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Spaceman Spiff
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Having to talk Le Mans in the F1 thread? What is the world coming to?
That was an absolutely mind-boggling lap from Kobayashi, and to think that it was done on the medium tire compound with track temps over 35C.
Think anyone will try to go quicker in the final evening session? Pedro Rodríguez's all-time record could well be topped, and Kobayashi already has the average speed honors to himself-- even with the Dunlop and Mulsanne chicanes. Unbelievable.
That was an absolutely mind-boggling lap from Kobayashi, and to think that it was done on the medium tire compound with track temps over 35C.
Think anyone will try to go quicker in the final evening session? Pedro Rodríguez's all-time record could well be topped, and Kobayashi already has the average speed honors to himself-- even with the Dunlop and Mulsanne chicanes. Unbelievable.
Could use last year's Le Mans thread:
http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1234099&page=1
I didn't know they were starting running already. I guess it's a couple weeks away. --edit, oh shit it's this weekend!-- I love Le Mans buildup! I'm torn on Toyota winning: I would like it but also like the prestige (not the best word) that the 787B has being the only Japanese car to win.
http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1234099&page=1
I didn't know they were starting running already. I guess it's a couple weeks away. --edit, oh shit it's this weekend!-- I love Le Mans buildup! I'm torn on Toyota winning: I would like it but also like the prestige (not the best word) that the 787B has being the only Japanese car to win.
FrankCanada97
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Did the ByKolles catch on fire yet?
Black_Stride
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i so hope Kobayashi gets it this year. Toyota deserves a win after these years of struggle
Ive got so many questions.
Does the race have its own news paper?
The race has its own beauty pageant?
Are people rooting for Toyota?
JadedWriter
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I have been rooting for Toyota since like the second year they entered.
Jezbollah
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1) No, it's a PR mockup most big races have if they want to celebrate things (you think a newspaper gets printed and distributed seconds after qualifying is completed?)
2) Maybe? There are lots of models in the vicinity of motorsports events.
3) Yes. Why not?
Speaking of Le Mans, they just outlined the new rules for 2020+ which was intended to get Peugeot on board.
Some of the stuff like "you can recharge the car in the pits but have to drive the first km out of the pits purely on electric" and "you have to cross the finishing line on electric" sounds hilariously arbitrary.
Plus a whole-car token system.
xrnzaaas
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So swiss tabloid Blick (Swiss Version of Daily Mail or German Bild), reports that Williams is gettim themself into position to take over as the Honda works team, should McLaren drop out. The article is focusing on Sauber that would have a second class position in either case.
They don't quote any sources though (other than "rumours from england).
They also mention that a chinese consortium is planning to buy the remains of Manor and getting into F1. Of course without any sources as well...
[edit] oh and I missed the part where Force India is about to change their name to be more attractive to sponsors who are put off by Mallya's bad rep.
They don't quote any sources though (other than "rumours from england).
They also mention that a chinese consortium is planning to buy the remains of Manor and getting into F1. Of course without any sources as well...
[edit] oh and I missed the part where Force India is about to change their name to be more attractive to sponsors who are put off by Mallya's bad rep.
The chinese consortium rumour has been making the rounds the last couple of weeks. There's no doubt that someone is hoovering up F1 talent to try to do something, if it's with Manor remnants or Force India is anyone's guess.
I would love to see Gheely enter the sport under the Volvo brand.
I would love to see Gheely enter the sport under the Volvo brand.
I guess Williams needs some money, and if Honda is willing to spend, then maybe it's for the best.
Chinese consortium eh? Maybe a very small chance for Dutch driver Ho Pin Tung (who drives under a Chinese license) to get into F1 (after having tested for Renault).
Chinese consortium eh? Maybe a very small chance for Dutch driver Ho Pin Tung (who drives under a Chinese license) to get into F1 (after having tested for Renault).
Horner did say someone was trying to poach their employees to join a new team.
As for Honda, I do not see them making Sauner their main focus, unless they can buy the team, so Williams would be the most likely candidate to try and strike a deal with, whether Williams would do that? I reckon they will wait at least until 2019 so Honda can use their Sauber deal to produce an actual working engine for once.
As for Honda, I do not see them making Sauner their main focus, unless they can buy the team, so Williams would be the most likely candidate to try and strike a deal with, whether Williams would do that? I reckon they will wait at least until 2019 so Honda can use their Sauber deal to produce an actual working engine for once.
nature boy
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I'm guessing Honda brings in a bucketload of cash to make up for loss of championship positions.
Although I do wonder how long the Honda board is gonna put up with such a failed project.
Although I do wonder how long the Honda board is gonna put up with such a failed project.
Jezbollah
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Volvo want fuck all to do with Motorsport. Read up on their withdrawal from V8 Supercars if in doubt.
As regards the Williams Honda rumuors - I can see this happening. it's not as if Williams have been competitive with Mercedes over the last few years - I think they're in a transition stage (certainly taking the Stroll money would indicate that). A Merc/Honda swap could benefit both McLaren and Williams.
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