In 2015 Williams even beat Red Bull. In 2016 Bottas finished right between Perez and Hulkenberg, Massa finished even further down. It was also a monster season for Perez with two podiums. This year there is a massive difference in the strength of the two line-ups.
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Gen.Grievous
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Nah. Penalty's like this aren't given all the time. Stewarding is all over place between and within a race. You can't defend giving Verstappen a penalty for a mistake that ruins another drivers race but give no punishment to Bottas who ruined Kimi's race twice. Pretty sure there are more examples to be found.
It helps that Force India has better drivers. And I don't mean that as a bad thing for Massa the guy has done very decent driving in his Williams years but he wouldn't even be driving this year if Rosberg hadn't retired.
xrnzaaas
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He's already quicker now than latifi's best time yesterday, and he's at mid-30 laps. He's doing very well for a man out of it for over five years.
Edit: I stand corrected. 1:19.6. He's getting quicker out there.
More important that his lap times right now is the fact that he's already at 41 laps (3rd most laps today). He's already so close to what Palmer did on Qualify that I don't have any doubt he can at least match his lap times with a full preseason under his belt.
The biggest question to me and it seems most around the paddock is if his arm can manage 300km straight on a F1 car or 100 laps during a day of testing.
After Paul Ricard, Renault clearly saw that he had pace. If he didn't, they wouldn't be "losing" time by giving him a day of testing.
The biggest question to me and it seems most around the paddock is if his arm can manage 300km straight on a F1 car or 100 laps during a day of testing.
After Paul Ricard, Renault clearly saw that he had pace. If he didn't, they wouldn't be "losing" time by giving him a day of testing.
Renault very clearly believe that Kubica is a real contender for the race seat, otherwise they wouldn't be investing so much time into getting him back into the sport. He passed the FIA extraction test with ease, so we'll see how he does.
I actually can't believe that we're genuinely discussing Robert Kubica's return to F1. I'm excited
I actually can't believe that we're genuinely discussing Robert Kubica's return to F1. I'm excited
What stands out the most to me is that Kubica is able to drive the car with no discomfort and set some quick lap times all at once, especially in a car that judging by the laps times is optimsed for a race setup, not a qualifying run. My main concern going into today was whether or not Kubica would be able to handle the car, as from what a lot of the drivers have been saying, this year's cars are more physically demanding to drive than in previous years, but he doesn't to be all that bothered by it, which I'm really amazed by. He's clearly got the pace he had several years back, and is still going out to set more lap times before the lunch break comes up in half an hour. And this is before we even talk about the massive PR story Renault and to a lesser extent F1 are basking in today with Kubica's Comeback.
Hydranockz
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74 laps for Kubica! Hot damn. Whatever about his pace, I'm sure he would be a lot happier knowing he can endure it for that long.
Not bad at all. 74 laps are impressive. Kubica return would be amazing.
Pretty consistent. No real evidence of fatigue or weakness taking hold.
Well it's about to get worse, because is Kubica is on track right, even in these temperatures. The man doesn't know how to quit which is a good thing I suppose. I'm expecting quicker lap times from him if they go for an ultrasoft/low fuel run at some point today.
Graphics Horse
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Isn't rallying tougher on arms than f1? And I don't mean in crashes :/
I think he should be up to it after managing to return to rally, just mobility was in question before so if he has no problems here it's looking good.
I think he should be up to it after managing to return to rally, just mobility was in question before so if he has no problems here it's looking good.
I think that was the main culprit that kept him from F1 for so long. From what's been reported on here, the main issue Kubica had was that is right arm had to be at an angle to hold the steering wheel in a closed cockpit, which obviously isn't safe. It was only recently that he finally managed to do so without causing extra pressure to be applied to his right arm, hence why Renault paid up for two private test sessions for him in the 2012 spec cars.
Also, it looks like he was on a heavy fuel run there. Warm up for a race length stint perhaps?
For over a year now he has been doing cycling in Italy at semi professional level.
Psychotext
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He sacrificed his hair to keep it.
brotkasten
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Even 11 years ago you could see where this was going.
His current haircut makes him look 10 years older than he is.
time to shave
Even 11 years ago you could see where this was going.
His current haircut makes him look 10 years older than he is.time to shave
Vettel looked like he was 13 in that picture.
brotkasten
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And still hasn't grown up since then.
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brotkasten
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Because his father is the money.
Forbes magazine placed Mazepin on the list of Russia's 100 wealthiest businessmen in 2010, estimating his personal fortune at US$950 mn. His fortune was estimated at US$7.7 bn as of 2017
And his girlfriend is a Russian supermodel, of course.
FrankCanada97
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Oh yeah, quite some time ago, it's a 4km track iirc
Yes, easily. Not that it was necessary.
So an announcement to be made 1 week before Spa, then?
Renault need the points, Palmer is not going to get them. Just look how embarrassing his performance in Hungary. He was dropped by his teammate at a rate of knots after they told him to let him past.
I'm British and support our drivers but frankly, Kubica is already showing he's probably faster and is only going to improve. He deserve to be back in F1 and Renault would be stupid not to give him the car right now.
Graphics Horse
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Let the legend come back to life!
FrankCanada97
Roughly the size of a baaaaaarge
Lando Norris is going to be Britain's next top driving talent, and he's still 17 years old. Just need to improve his race starts.
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