I think you are seriously underestimating the work involved.
What about the engines, for starters?
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Forza 5 Showroom | New cars and details for Forza 5, ongoing reveals
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I think you are seriously underestimating the work involved.
What about the engines, for starters?
H3rTz DoNuT
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At this point T10 should make a clear statement if the information about cars and tracks is final and includes tracks and cars that are included in day one download or is it only content on retail disc and they will announce day one update content later on as we get closer to release date.
JackAubrey
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Wouldn't they be there for when the hood gets ripped off?
Jamesways
Member
Yeah, that was really expensive.
And people would gladly pay, probably 50 for the Porsches alone.
Weather and night 60-75 bucks? Now that I bet most of us would pay for.
Acutally, I will pay for 60 bucks for weather and night... in pCARS next fall.
H3rTz DoNuT
Member
Hey guys, remember when someone (not sure who) from T10 said that our jaws will drop this week?
I think this is the moment
I think this is the moment
Does the bonnet get ripped off?
Turn 10 have been tweeting about Porsches this evening.
Jamesways
Member
Hey guys, remember when someone (not sure who) from T10 said that our jaws will drop this week?
I think this is the moment
So when do you get your early copy to supply Turn 10 with awesome liveries to fill everyone's garages?
JackAubrey
Member
I don't know. The way I drive I'll find out sooner rather than later.
We are not ENTITLED to those tracks.
H3rTz DoNuT
Member
I don't, I have LCE pre-ordered and I don't think I'm gonna be painting much, at least not as soon as I would like to. Too busy lately with life
We know they've been scanning at least Monza and Long Beach so that's two more tracks to look forward at some point in the future, be it in DLC form or in FM6. Nordschleife will probably make its come back too.
There are three tracks which I still can't comprehend why they're missing. Infineon and Hockenheim because they were already super detailed in FM4 and Maple Valley because it's been the most recognisable and one of the best fictional track of the series.
I just want the Nordschleife, Infineon, Hockenheim, Suzuka, Tsukuba, Camino Viejo and Maple Valley back ASAP.
There are three tracks which I still can't comprehend why they're missing. Infineon and Hockenheim because they were already super detailed in FM4 and Maple Valley because it's been the most recognisable and one of the best fictional track of the series.
I just want the Nordschleife, Infineon, Hockenheim, Suzuka, Tsukuba, Camino Viejo and Maple Valley back ASAP.
Plus they added that covered bridge in FM4. All of that wood and those nails just thrown away.
Waldo Lydecker
Member
14 tracks? Lol. Although you can't probably blame T10, you have to blame MS, also for the shitty DLC plans. That's a big f*ck-you to your fanbase.
Although sometimes quality>quantity, there just can't be an excuse for omitting some of the fans favorite tracks.
Although sometimes quality>quantity, there just can't be an excuse for omitting some of the fans favorite tracks.
NullPointer
Member
Just last night I was playing some GT5 in prep for GT6 to come. Its been a while. So I was just reacquainting myself with track layouts really and just enjoying the ride.
No bullshit, but last night as I was playing through those tracks like Trial Mountain and Deep Forest and Grand Valley I kept thinking how much I felt a track like Maple Valley was missing in GT5's set.
And just now I think that If I had been replaying Forza 4's tracks for the same reason I would be utterly crushed right now.
JackAubrey
Member
Yes and it's probably the largest wooden bridge in the world - the scale is really out of wack.
eso76
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This is ridiculous, sorry T10. 4 years in the making and 14 tracks is all you could come up with ?
Even if you did remodel/remake them all from scratch (which you didn't, see Laguna Seca) that would be an incredibly low number.
Brand new racing franchises launching in the coming months (that couldn't rely on existing assets and had to build everything from scratch) have more than that. 14 is just not acceptable for today's standards.
The biggest complaint the series has been drawing is the number of tracks and your new game has like half the tracks of its predecessor ???
Far less than its main competitor, which also features a track creator ?
This is inexcusable. Either very poor resource management or milking the user base to unprecedented levels.
Hockenheim ? Infineon ? For god's sake, you just had to update the textures, replace those ugly trees with marginally less ugly looking ones and call it a day.
And 200 cars ? What happened to the other 460 you already had, modeled to great detail ?
The game looks amazing.
The most recent batch of pics and vids (compressed to hell and back and then back to hell and back again) looks great. It's great to see Prague again, looking good as ever (and it shows the feedback from the bumpy road surface is a lot better than it used to be) and the incredible lighting on Yas Marina and Sebring.
I have the console and game preordered and paid (actually, FM5 was free; preorder deal) but next time you'll have to show your cards and come clean.
Oh and you better deliver, because your joke was an expensive one and it will take some pretty epic effort on your side (and a shitton of free DLC) for gamers to trust you again.
I hope the surprise reveal is full Prague ribbon is a 15 miles epic drive, at this point but EH, somehow i doubt it.
Also, the super surprising reveal Saladine is hiding from us has something to do with the fact we saw the driver in a couple of those forzavista showroom pics and the garage door opening on what looks like a race track.
This is ridiculous, sorry T10. 4 years in the making and 14 tracks is all you could come up with ?
Even if you did remodel/remake them all from scratch (which you didn't, see Laguna Seca) that would be an incredibly low number.
Brand new racing franchises launching in the coming months (that couldn't rely on existing assets and had to build everything from scratch) have more than that. 14 is just not acceptable for today's standards.
The biggest complaint the series has been drawing is the number of tracks and your new game has like half the tracks of its predecessor ???
Far less than its main competitor, which also features a track creator ?
This is inexcusable. Either very poor resource management or milking the user base to unprecedented levels.
Hockenheim ? Infineon ? For god's sake, you just had to update the textures, replace those ugly trees with marginally less ugly looking ones and call it a day.
And 200 cars ? What happened to the other 460 you already had, modeled to great detail ?
The game looks amazing.
The most recent batch of pics and vids (compressed to hell and back and then back to hell and back again) looks great. It's great to see Prague again, looking good as ever (and it shows the feedback from the bumpy road surface is a lot better than it used to be) and the incredible lighting on Yas Marina and Sebring.
I have the console and game preordered and paid (actually, FM5 was free; preorder deal) but next time you'll have to show your cards and come clean.
Oh and you better deliver, because your joke was an expensive one and it will take some pretty epic effort on your side (and a shitton of free DLC) for gamers to trust you again.
I hope the surprise reveal is full Prague ribbon is a 15 miles epic drive, at this point but EH, somehow i doubt it.
Also, the super surprising reveal Saladine is hiding from us has something to do with the fact we saw the driver in a couple of those forzavista showroom pics and the garage door opening on what looks like a race track.
Captain Bluey
Member
This is disappointing, but at least it has Bathurst.
Bathurst has to be worth at least 2 tracks!
Bathurst has to be worth at least 2 tracks!
shikamaroooo
Member
Not sure if this has been posted, but here is a comparison from IGN comparing Forza 4 and 5:
http://au.ign.com/videos/2013/11/06/forza-4-vs-forza-5-graphics-comparison-bernese-alps
http://au.ign.com/videos/2013/11/06/forza-4-vs-forza-5-graphics-comparison-bernese-alps
Why people keep repeating this?
There's a difference between starting to throw ideas and concepts and actual development time. I hightly doubt they were developing Forza 4 alongside with Forza 5, so I think two years would be more accurate.
Cipher Soze
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Socrates or Plato?
And do people consider the Top Gear Track and Test circuit/ play area racing tracks? :/
I know they're individual environments to hoon about in, but how many of you have raced on them? So doesn't that make 12 tracks and two playground environments?
This is disappointing, but at least it has Bathurst.
Bathurst has to be worth at least 2 tracks!
So 15 tracks. Test tracks = 1/2 tracks in my mind, so we're back to 14.
unless there is an extensive list of nextgen racing games with focus on realism that cvg knows of, and I've somehow missed....
I think that cvg comment means nothing outside of console wars cannon foder...
ps
is that fuckin'evo magazine out yet? I wanna read exactly how it describes the ring situation.
has anybody actually ...seen it? or its just a bunch ot typed text that got copied/pasted around?
Which new franchise racing game has confirmed track numbers? This is news to me.
I'm actually not familiar with that criticism of the series.
I'm not thrilled by the track-count, but I won't complain about a company not doing lazy updates for generational upgrades to a franchise for the sake of padding numbers. Based on the detail level we're seeing, what you're describing would have stood out in a jarring way, and I know I'd be personally annoyed seeing that.
I completely agree about their next showing (FM6) had better have deep content expansion compared to this if the bar is being built to the same level. That said, I don't doubt that will happen. Also, this isn't a trust issue, considering this information is being trumpeted by them weeks before the game comes to market. I understand the frustration (very well), but to pretend buyers are being misled is off-base. Whether players buy DLC quite as enthusiastically as they have previously is something I agree their team had better keep in mind.
Also, unless Forza 4 came out a full four years ago, you're doing some creative exaggeration about this game being four years worth of dev effort to try to highlight the content figures.
drugstore_cowboy
Member
Socrates or Plato?
And do people consider the Top Gear Track and Test circuit/ play area racing tracks? :/
I know they're individual environments to hoon about in, but how many of you have raced on them? So doesn't that make 12 tracks and two playground environments?
Top Gear track, definitely.
Was any new footage shown today anywhere?
edit: and is KERS or DRS available on the E21?
This is disappointing, but at least it has Bathurst.
Bathurst has to be worth at least 2 tracks!
No way. Not on a 1:1 vs the ring, neither 1:2 vs suzuka + a choice of yourself.
Socrates or Plato?
And do people consider the Top Gear Track and Test circuit/ play area racing tracks? :/
I know they're individual environments to hoon about in, but how many of you have raced on them? So doesn't that make 12 tracks and two playground environments?
nah
just personal shit. about the two tracks, it was mentioned earlier that somekind of silly props are placed in tgtt under a specific game mode or something?
as a racing environment they might suck, but maybe they can be good for a laugh or a gymkana or an open stig leaderboard challenge..
about total tracks, if my assumptions and predictions are not totally flawed, I expect we'll be getting more tracks waaay before we run the new ones to death. flick a buck, get a track thing
its like they cut 27 tracks to add ...bathurst
AND WE DO KNOW WHO WE HAVE TO BLAME FOR THAT, DONT WE
sal?
skyfinch
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Drugstore_cowboy, i think there is some new footage in this link.
drugstore_cowboy
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soundscream
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Lol sorry my grammer has gone out of the window am drained todayI need a translation............
Max 8 cars shown in offline races. Any improvement on this?
yellow submarine
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what a bunch of scam artists.
H3rTz DoNuT
Member
And that would be pretty much final slap in my face, if this is gonna be max, then I don't even know what to say.
NullPointer
Member
Is this a thing? Is that an actual max or just whats been shown?
JackAubrey
Member
I had a root canal today, I couldn't jaw drop even if I wanted to.
JackAubrey
Member
In the previous games the number of AI cars in races varied a lot depending on the type of event.
It's the most I'm sure I've seen in any offline race footage so far, hence the question.
Yeah, but FM4 had a max of 12 offline.
Psycho_Mantis
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You make a good point. I do not understand how smaller studios like people doing PCars can build more tracks and cars with less money and faster than T10 and PD.
They have shown a 16 car offline race.
Black_Stride
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Damn good interview.
Im quite excited about the Drivatars.......wait a minute 14 tracks?
Im having a hard time justifying buy an Xbox One for 14 tracks......I honestly dont mind the 200 cars thats not even an issue for me, but god damn it 14 tracks will get stale quick
I feel like they get lost in a toon of stupid content that does not really add that much to the experience.
Also the bigger you get the more stupid politics you have to suffer so that is also something that ends creating content a lot more dificult, scaling things as you get bigger is really a pain in the ass too many good companies fall on that.
I know it was asked a page ago, but do we know what content was pulled from the disc for them to offer as day one free DLC? Or are they deciding to charge for that now?
Honestly should've gone with PGR5. A console without an exclusive arcade racer on (or near) launch is just stupid.
You guys. I love you guys.
Honestly should've gone with PGR5. A console without an exclusive arcade racer on (or near) launch is just stupid.