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Forza 5 Showroom | New cars and details for Forza 5, ongoing reveals

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Imagine if MS and Sony where like that, how our gaming hobby would be so much better.
 
Absolutely.

I have an old drinking buddy that went from a running a video game import shop, joined a games company, worked his way up and now is in a similar position to these guys and a lot of GAF shit on him regularly. He's as passionate about the franchise he works on as any other fan.
 

p3tran

Banned
You left this part:
He stated that when asked about his opinion of Forza Motorsport 2 on the Xbox 360, "Straight off the bat, I think that in terms of feature sets, Forza is ahead of us. They have more options, you can do basically anything. We take a different approach obviously - we try to concentrate on what are the core values for a racing game, and we try to elevate those standards up as high as we possibly can. I am having difficulty trying to explain the differences, but one way you can look at it is, you can buy a watch that is super multifunctional, but economical, or a watch that is reduced in functions, but premium - higher end."

so, lets wrap this shit up please. thats what he said, but yet his game release three years later, and despite his claims, it was only 1/5 premium ;)
oh, and forza sure does not look very "economical" right now. ask our pockets :D

as i said many times, these guys push their "customizable dream" on us, both have their pr(opaganda), both belong to console makers, so both HAVE to do their pr in a proper, kind of determined way.
one other thing these two have in common, is that they make the best damn racing games there is. and both for sure could produce even better games if h/w did not hold them.

BOTH have their successful AND their failed pr moments. when discussing these things, turning a blind eye on one of them is just not fair.
 

p3tran

Banned
Didnt i say that on the last page? Lol
first of all, switch to 100ppp, you had me flicking pages for no reason :)

yes, thats exactly what you said. the only thing I did, was being the mule of the company that had to carry the supporting evidence to the table
 

Mascot

Member
Can the ai be assigned user liveries?

16 of the same E21 may look a little daft.

Oh man, that was one of my pet requests for FM3 & FM4. I'd have LOVED to skin the AI cars in HD's liveries before racing against them. Big plus if this feature is in FM5. I'm sure I remember something about this around E3?
 
Can the ai be assigned user liveries?

16 of the same E21 may look a little daft.

I think so. Your Drivatar in other players games, so they'll have whatever livery you put on that particular car. At least, that's what I remember from one of the interviews from around E3.

edit; beaten. need to learn to type faster to survive on this forum. It's the quick and the dead around here.lol
 

p3tran

Banned
I am pretty sure I heard that also my drivatar on your game will pick the same car I use on that track.
we will see how this works out, could be AAAA


edit:
soundscream, I can verify you as correct on the car part, but i have not heard the "mods included" part.
could be the car model with auto-upgrade to that level, until its clarified
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I think they announced that drivatars are supposed to download liveries that the player uses the most when you're driving against them.

I could have sworn it was your car also(mods included) but I could be mistaken.
 
That's great news then, I pretty much switched off when drivatars were mentioned in the early days but it seems now they are quite a cool addition.

Two weeks to go and still not a comment from Thomas.

Not even a rant.
 

p3tran

Banned
you forgot to drop the link. Junior :p
http://www.forzamotorsport.fr/news/...e-des-circuits-et-menus-en-images-163199.html


press event in Paris, started yesterday

edit:
ok, it says there's a "forza tv" menu option. was this known?
maybe this will be like that fantastic thing pgr3 had, like you can watch real time best players battling it out etc?


further down, dan offers his exlplanation about the tracks cut, saying something in the lines of: getting the old tracks in this one, would be a big disservice to the new graphics engine. he also compares, like we did here, to forza 2 being the first of the platform (or something..)
career will be 41 8 hour events (or somthing..)
reconfirms that liveries are forzavista-able :)
oh, and forza tv seems to be a channel where everybody can upload their favorite moments, not what I thought above. petty, but still good.
shit, are my french rusty or what!! :D
any french/canadians want to help? :D
 

G Rom

Member
Forza TV is just the name of the place you'll be able to watch replays, photos and videos. It doesn't mention live TV like PGR3.
It confirms the Airfield test track as well.
Rivals mode is back with the same offer (auto cross, track days, etc...)

Edit : I wonder what's the rent a car option means, is it a new name for the Forza garage ?
 
Can somebody tell me in laymen's terms what 'pre-baked lighting' is? I keep hearing it thrown around in reference to this game, and have no idea what the hell it means.
 

Ty4on

Member
Can somebody tell me in laymen's terms what 'pre-baked lighting' is? I keep hearing it thrown around in reference to this game, and have no idea what the hell it means.

It doesn't change. The lightning conditions have been calculated (baked) beforehand while games with variable conditions may have to calculate them on the fly.
 
Can somebody tell me in laymen's terms what 'pre-baked lighting' is? I keep hearing it thrown around in reference to this game, and have no idea what the hell it means.

Turn10 invented a second rate lighting solution as the Xbox is too weak to handle anything else, it can never look as good under any circumstance as real Sony lighting.

It distorts shadows, causes aliasing, reduces content and makes us all regret our purchase whenever mentioned.
 

p3tran

Banned
so, that article basically says that "while there is a chance that some tracks will arrive via dlc, the focus is enriching the car numbers", or something.

so i guess its the ring we will get, and maybe one more track?
my lack of french fluency is a problem, but I did not feel very confident that they are going to rain us on dlc tracks when reading that..
 
It doesn't change. The lightning conditions have been calculated (baked) beforehand while games with variable conditions may have to calculate them on the fly.

Ah. So it would really only ever come into play if Forza had like, changing weather or changes from night to day, so that the angle/intensity of the light from the sun would be changing as you race....

...or I guess, simply having night races would involve some level of dynamic lighting for the headlights?

Ok, thanks. That makes sense. Doesn't really seem like a huge deal.
 

p3tran

Banned
Ah. So it would really only ever come into play if Forza had like, changing weather or changes from night to day, so that the angle/intensity of the light from the sun would be changing as you race....

...or I guess, simply having night races would involve some level of dynamic lighting for the headlights?

Ok, thanks. That makes sense. Doesn't really seem like a huge deal.

no, actually not.
changing weather has nothing to do with prebaked lighting, in fact i would guess that having some things pre-processed would only make your entire effects more convincing, and of course you can have night races in prebaked shadows.
we are talking about environment here. the rest of the things, like cars, they have real time effects of course.
night races we had in forza 1 and pgr series, dynamic lighting and the day/night stuff on forza horizon. weather and night on pgr4. its no voodoo magic, really.
its just a matter of slicing up your resources, always in relation to what you want to offer.


other than that, what cowboy wrote is exactly what people imply when you see the words "prebaked lighting" describing forza. ;)
 
Race with no assists, don't think I've touched the auction house and have 50 million sitting around.

Dan said money will be easier to attain but reward cars are out.
 

op_ivy

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13 million credits? How are we supposed to make that sort of money given that flipping cars on the auction house is no longer possible ;-)

make friends with hertz


looks like bathurst has laguna seca dust storms too
 

p3tran

Banned
make friends with hertz
YO! HERTZ!! drop me 10mil plz, I need to buy two expensive cars to get one freaking achievement in forza 4, and I run out of money buying other expensive cars.

no way I'm grinding 10mil in the next 2 weeks :D

Well it is what's stopping us from getting a day/night cycle on 24hr Le Mans.
well since its a closed box and all, you got to pick: either pristine full resolution with max locked framerate and best physics and sound you can muster,
at the best possible gfx detail you can pump out keeping the above as priority,
or compromises...
wait for horizon 2.
I 'm 99,9999% sure that the breaking trailer will be a car running like crazy in the snow, at night. but it will be 30hz. plus other compromises.
 
Yeah but it's neither a sim nor a next generation game with it.

Why not? Personally, not that interested in day/night cycle. It was fun for all of a few hours on GT5. Same again with weather. Does having neither of those suddenly make it an arcade racer? No, that's ridiculous.

Plenty of next-gen games have pre-baked lighting - are they suddenly now not next-gen?
 
Why not? Personally, not that interested in day/night cycle. It was fun for all of a few hours on GT5. Same again with weather. Does having neither of those suddenly make it an arcade racer? No, that's ridiculous.

Plenty of next-gen games have pre-baked lighting - are they suddenly now not next-gen?

Don't ask me, I'm only going on what I've read.
 

op_ivy

Fallen Xbot (cannot continue gaining levels in this class)
YO! HERTZ!! drop me 10mil plz, I need to buy two expensive cars to get one freaking achievement in forza 4, and I run out of money buying other expensive cars.

no way I'm grinding 10mil in the next 2 weeks :D

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if you're serious, i could get you 7 or 8. it doesnt carry over does it?
 
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