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Forza 5 Showroom | New cars and details for Forza 5, ongoing reveals
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They can change the bumpers to make it look like the AP2, they can change the shaders, textures... But at its core, its the same inaccurate model with the same inaccuracies carried over since FM1.
you wont persuade them trust me
some good news though the enzo does look like it may be a remodel
Cipher Soze
Member
@ amar
Very nicely done sir.
Very nicely done sir.
Yep great post Amar, as always.@ amar
Very nicely done sir.
PR is just a fancy name one smart person thought for propaganda,
because right after the war people were very aware that "propaganda is bad"
bottom line: PR is bad too.
now, i read these quotes you put of dan, and eventhough I dont give a shit about racing in the rain (I dont like it in real life either) or even at night, what he said about night beams casting shadows would kill the framerate, well, that's about the only thing true in those quotes.
but you dont even need to bring these quotes here, as the mountain-size amount of TURD and FAKE PR person one is, is clearly manifested from e3 till today.
his actions + background, they paint a very clear picture. he's just a corp puppet. a microsoft tap dancer.
so, imo, you put some work there that wasnt needed. the thing is fuckin' captain obvious
hey, now you are talking shit too!
i will greatly miss racing you if you skip it. I may catch you in gt6 though...
and if forza is really worth the 1000e admission cost, i will frankly let you know when I have an opinion.
I don't know why I keep insisting, but anyway.
And yes, the Enzo looks like it has been remodeled, not sure if from scratch or just partially, but the front part and the windscreen look accurate, which they didn't in previous games.
LowerLevel
Member
Man, you guys are actually making me nervous. Diehards maybe/definitely leaving? Damn... This game is the only reason I am jumping into next gen day one. Where's the info T10? Need more input...
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
Most of them weren't getting the game anyway. I wouldn't worry, there will be a decent GAF community for the game.
drugstore_cowboy
Member
Enzo speculation comes from the trailer but even if that's a Forzavista model there's far too much difference to get away with using the old model for gameplay.
But saying that, on second thoughts I'd rather see better in game.
But saying that, on second thoughts I'd rather see better in game.
Not only that, but the curves of the front bumper and the windscreen seem fixed (compare with any FM4 pic). The tail lights were fixed in FM4.
dear dude/lady
here's the deal: forza is going to be a great game, possibly the highest rated nextgen game, and more importantly, a very good racing game.
also it will be the most complete racer in content in nextgen, for a looong time.
at least until gran turismo hits ps4. so there you go.
all the rest going on here, is about how turn 10/microsoft has decided to hold off content so they can monetize the most they can.
content that some of us have paid for FIVE times already, and all times in limited editions, all dlc's, even all fucking wheels they pushed.
so these some of us, they are getting pissed, and dan;s smart doubletalking really didn't help the situation at all. (HUNDREDS!! HUNDREDS!! , I DONT KNOW H/W, I MAKE FORZA etc)
and this stacks on top of their shitty and ungrateful attitude towards the wheels they kept selling us until a few months back.
but these things should be of no concern to you. you just re-read the first paragraph and decide upon that, and only that.
you dont need some t10 pr bullshit to fix your head either. read amar's post for that. PR = bad
oh! the other s2k weirdo is here too
we are full house now! enjoy
Seven plus years now? So GT5 was in development since 2003? Ok. People seem to like the fat whore though, considering she's makes more in a single night, than what the good whore pulls in her entire career lol
what were wrong with the tail lights in 3? i honestly cant remember
Sales aren't representative of quality, as far as I know.
It's hard to explain without pics and with my english, but let's just say that the lights protruded outwards, when they should be "embedded" in the car. Just look for FM2/3 pics and compare with the real car.
i actually couldnt see much difference between 3&4 from pics, one thing i noticed is they changed the outer rear light from amber to clear, i wonder why
oh! the other s2k weirdo is here too
we are full house now! enjoy
I don't remember having insulted you.
he gets insulted if you insult forza
Terbinator
Member
There's another rear shot too but you can't see much due to the size/perspective.
FlutterPuffs
Member
Hey guys, I got bored and decided to visit this thread. What happened? Why the sudden pessimism on Forza 5?
Also to be honest it's good to be tough on your favorite game, to a certain extent. If the GT5 fans weren't, I doubt Gran Turismo 6 would be as good as it is seemingly looking now.
Also to be honest it's good to be tough on your favorite game, to a certain extent. If the GT5 fans weren't, I doubt Gran Turismo 6 would be as good as it is seemingly looking now.
Terbinator
Member
Just done the worst thing possible and suggested to myself Amazon may deliver early. >_<
200 cars, 14 tracks (no nurb), day one DLC
FlutterPuffs
Member
Well ouch. I just hope that a) it plays well. and b) there will be free DLC.
theres no doubt about a...b i'm not so sure
there was always one or two free DLC cars but nothing much
depends. some might say that you are insulting one's intelligence when writing this:
how many videos of f5 s2k have you watched?
how many pictures other than the single one that t10 released?
I am curious. please tell me.
were you the one that also "speculated" about how enzo was carried over, again from "FM1"?
well, did you manage to look that the enzo has different offset wheels and just forgot to mention it, or are you still grasping for something else to say?
I mean, I dont even care for such small details, yet some guys make it the center of the world. so, how's enzo's offset?
LowerLevel
Member
dear dude/lady
forza is going to be a great game, possibly the highest rated nextgen game, and more importantly, a very good racing game.
also it will be the most complete racer in content in nextgen, for a looong time.
at least until gran turismo hits ps4. so there you go.
all the rest going on here, is about how turn 10/microsoft has decided to hold off content so they can monetize the most they can.
content that some of us have paid for FIVE times already, and all times in limited editions, all dlc's, even all fucking wheels they pushed.
so these some of us, they are getting pissed, and dan;s smart doubletalking really didn't help the situation at all. (HUNDREDS!! HUNDREDS!! , I DONT KNOW H/W, I MAKE FORZA etc)
and this stacks on top of their shitty and ungrateful attitude towards the wheels they kept selling us until a few months back.
but these things should be of no concern to you. you just re-read the first paragraph and decide upon that, and only that.
you dont need some t10 pr bullshit to fix your head either. read amar's post for that. PR = bad
OK. First, it's dude. Second, I fully understand the difference between PR and plain BS. Third, you aren't the only one who has paid five+ times over (am annoying 999 points from tier 5 myself but family/time makes getting those points a bit tedious). I also am very annoyed with having to repurchase peripherals to play not only racing but fightsticks as well, but I am trying to look at the greater picture. Does the stuff MS is apparently trying to pull suck? fuck yes. Are they the only ones to do this? of course not. Will they be the last? You see where I am going with this? I was just stating that I was surprised that a person/people that are in the same boat I am and regulars on the Forza threads are actually dipping out. I am not a noob, a schill, a troll or a child so talk to me like I am one in the future please. And just because I don't race online with the rest of you doesn't make mean I don't have knowledge of said game.
Right now, I am truly hoping I am taking you post out of context. If so, I apologize, but to be honest it really doesn't seem like it.
I'm not going to keep arguing about this, I already made my point a few days ago, and so did benzy with some pictures that make the issues pretty obvious. If I see the same inaccuracies from FM1 in one picture, I don't need nothing more. You do? You think it's a different model? Good, but there's no need to insult me just because you don't agree with me, because if you say that I'm insulting one's intelligence here, I could say the same when you insist that it's not the same model.
And no, I didn't speculate anything about the Enzo. In fact I just pointed out a few messages ago how it seems to have been remodeled.
You say you don't care for such "small" details. Well, some of us do, respect that.
wtf no one has said that about the enzo, weve actually been commenting how it looks like theyve remodelled it
are you getting confused with the f40?
drugstore_cowboy
Member
Not good footage by a long shot but I think there's some gameplay running in the background during an interview that shows the London tour thing on the test track with wheelie bins and cardboard busses.
Hawk269
Member
Has anyone from T10 confirmed that the 14 tracks includes that day 1 patch/update they talked about for a while? From the earlier comment they stated that on day 1 there will be a update/patch to provide content that did not make it on the disk. So was just curious if there will be more cars or tracks as part of this day 1 patch/update?
StudioTan
Hold on, friend! I'd love to share with you some swell news about the Windows 8 Metro UI! Wait, where are you going?
Your only post in this thread and this is the best you can muster?
Took a second look, I had forgotten about the weird more upright angle of the windscreen. Definitely looks improved in Forza 5.
That, and the curvature of the bulbs. In Forza the bulbs were almost straight.
edit:
for the new page
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaukRfvP4Fw&hd=1
ok, I didnt want to say "man/dude" since I didnt remember you, and avatar
And I only tried to explain, because your initial post looked a little bit like a casual reading this and getting scared. right?
never called you shill(!) or something. now,
of course I know there are MANY more exactly in the same boat as I am. As most of the regulars in here are for one, then you just look at the leaderboards.
hell, last page raudi expressed more or less the same things, and since you play forza you probably know him.
that being said, I am not dipping out, I am going to buy everything and slap dan in the bumcheek. and if you are getting in from the start, you better hook up with the guys here, because its worth it.
but many people are pissed, rightfully so.
ps
and about fightsticks... did you happen to see the video where a guy took his arcade stick from home to xbox kiosk and played KI with it? it played perfectly, yet in the boxes that we will buy, our sticks there is a chance they wont work (unless there is news on that, I havent followed all topics the last two days)
microsoft needs to show a good face. basically this is what everybody is more or less saying, let alone and exempt what I say.
so we cool, Dude?
for the new page
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaukRfvP4Fw&hd=1
dude
ok, I didnt want to say "man/dude" since I didnt remember you, and avatar
And I only tried to explain, because your initial post looked a little bit like a casual reading this and getting scared. right?
never called you shill(!) or something. now,
of course I know there are MANY more exactly in the same boat as I am. As most of the regulars in here are for one, then you just look at the leaderboards.
hell, last page raudi expressed more or less the same things, and since you play forza you probably know him.
that being said, I am not dipping out, I am going to buy everything and slap dan in the bumcheek. and if you are getting in from the start, you better hook up with the guys here, because its worth it.
but many people are pissed, rightfully so.
ps
and about fightsticks... did you happen to see the video where a guy took his arcade stick from home to xbox kiosk and played KI with it? it played perfectly, yet in the boxes that we will buy, our sticks there is a chance they wont work (unless there is news on that, I havent followed all topics the last two days)
microsoft needs to show a good face. basically this is what everybody is more or less saying, let alone and exempt what I say.
so we cool, Dude?
finally getting around to the dan greenawalt / sessler interview and i am LOVING what he is saying about tiers whereas when i heard people mention it here it sounded stupid. i love that he points out how "binary" racing games are where you are either in first or one of the losers. when in first, you may as well be hot lapping. when you arent, you hit pause and restart race. tiers really do seem like they may break out of that. now i'll actually try to select a difficulty slightly above what my skill is (assuming it will be available - its hasnt really been in the past) and just work to get gold tier or podium, which will make much more thrilling racing.
if the drivatar is as good as turn10 says, and it sounds like it may be, then that makes it all the more better. 2 weeks? 2 weeks!!
if the drivatar is as good as turn10 says, and it sounds like it may be, then that makes it all the more better. 2 weeks? 2 weeks!!
GrizzleBoy
Banned
That was also my favourite part.
Being a huge F1 fan, its refreshing to play the Codemasters F1 games where driving for a certain team means that the team only expects as much as the car can deliver, so even a 12th place finish can seem like a huge achievement for a small team.
I started playing Forza 3 again a couple of nights ago and what Dan is saying is pretty spot on. Mad rush to make up the most places into turn one, then run to first and stay there. The art of clean racing kind of takes a back seat.
Even if all Drivatars do is make it so that I'm not the only one in the race who will brake late on the inside of a corner or try a switch-back, it'll be enough for me.
If they can get the AI to be humanly aggressive in those places you can usually bank on to just whiz past (i.e. drive up the inside, brake late go forth), even better.
If they can get an AI car that has poor top speed but much better traction to hang you out to dry on corner entry (take the corner slower than usual while taking up all the racing line) so that your top speed is negated by the fact that they've already made up so much ground after the exit, then that's some serious business.
Drivatars + F1 cars + F1 tracks = ???
Like Dan said though, the proof shall be within the pudding.
Yeah, I liked that part of the interview as well.
Paladin CL
Member
What bothers me to no end is:
Does anyone think that Forza 4 menu cars would look bad in gameplay mode for Forza 5? They could have upgraded them just a bit (adding more colors to the interiors) and correcting imperfections.
I think having autovista level its just not worth compare to cutting 470 cars. Its not like Forza 4 cars looked like standard cars is GT5.
Same goes for the track, does anyone think Fujimi Kaido, Mapple Valley, Rally di Positano, Suzuka looked bad?
How do you think they would look with a slight upgrade?
To me loosing almost all the fantasy tracks its just something I cant believe, theres no respect for the identity of the franchise, its like launching GT without Apricot Hill, High Speed Ring or other classics tracks.
As a Forza fan I spec to race in Fujimi Kaido, Mapple Valley and other tracks that have been for years in Forza franchise.
Does anyone think that Forza 4 menu cars would look bad in gameplay mode for Forza 5? They could have upgraded them just a bit (adding more colors to the interiors) and correcting imperfections.
I think having autovista level its just not worth compare to cutting 470 cars. Its not like Forza 4 cars looked like standard cars is GT5.
Same goes for the track, does anyone think Fujimi Kaido, Mapple Valley, Rally di Positano, Suzuka looked bad?
How do you think they would look with a slight upgrade?
To me loosing almost all the fantasy tracks its just something I cant believe, theres no respect for the identity of the franchise, its like launching GT without Apricot Hill, High Speed Ring or other classics tracks.
As a Forza fan I spec to race in Fujimi Kaido, Mapple Valley and other tracks that have been for years in Forza franchise.
IMO, they would look out of place. they do need extensive upgrading (if no now, when?). i'm hopeful they do come back in fm5 at some point though. as i've said time and time again, i'm fine paying for track dlc.
LowerLevel
Member
dude
ok, I didnt want to say "man/dude" since I didnt remember you, and avatar
And I only tried to explain, because your initial post looked a little bit like a casual reading this and getting scared. right?
never called you shill(!) or something. now,
of course I know there are MANY more exactly in the same boat as I am. As most of the regulars in here are for one, then you just look at the leaderboards.
hell, last page raudi expressed more or less the same things, and since you play forza you probably know him.
that being said, I am not dipping out, I am going to buy everything and slap dan in the bumcheek. and if you are getting in from the start, you better hook up with the guys here, because its worth it.
but many people are pissed, rightfully so.
ps
and about fightsticks... did you happen to see the video where a guy took his arcade stick from home to xbox kiosk and played KI with it? it played perfectly, yet in the boxes that we will buy, our sticks there is a chance they wont work (unless there is news on that, I havent followed all topics the last two days)
microsoft needs to show a good face. basically this is what everybody is more or less saying, let alone and exempt what I say.
so we cool, Dude?
Apologies for the rant, Tran. If I came off as a casual, sorry. Like I said before, seeing other diehards dip out surprised me. And I am glad you are staying in like I am.
I have not heard of someone bringing a stick to a showing. That's amazing! Now how is it that peeps can't use their own wheels is a bigger question? At this point, right now with the apparent negativity of possible less substance, a quick patch down the line (I assume it could be a patch) saying people can use their USB wheels may help brighten some skies.
Any word on what VIP status brings this go around? Honestly, I am seriously holding onto hope that previous tracks will come, maybe monthly. And newer, unseen tracks will be paid DLC.
And, we were never not cool. Just misread communication. Maybe now that the kids are older, I may be able to race online... ( I hope)
soundscream
Member
Those PS2 traks in GT5 were distracting as hell.