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[Bry0]

Played a little offline pc, I can’t figure out if I actually have all the dynamic settings crap off. The iq just doesn’t look right. Didn’t have much time to play but the physics did feel better. Yeah it’s still forza, but the overblown loose feeling weight transfer and odd feeling grip has been traded for something that feels a lot better imo. Wish we had GT7 on pc though, ngl.

 

[Nvzman]

It's absolutely NOT stupid. If Microsoft is going to keep forcing Cross Play they DAMN SURE BETTER KEEP AN EVEN PLAYING FIELD!

Anyone complaining on PC about this is thinking purely selfishly.

This why I fucking hate FORCED CROSS PLAY. Give us the option or don't do it.

for racing games framerate above 60fps has like zero advantage. This isn't because of a competitive playing field, its because the devs coded the game to tie certain mechanics to framerate, which causes physics differences above 60fps on more powerful hardware. Which shows you how sloppy this game is shaping up to be, because basically no western developer does shit like that anymore for a good reason.

 

[SimTourist]

Game seems good, scoring in the 80s on aggregate. Most seem to enjoy it but it has a few obvious flaws.

It's a pity Forza and GT are simply not up to the standards they both set during the PS2/PS3/360 days.

I think part of it is that trackracing games are no longer a novelty that they were during those days, those games had plenty of flaws but it was something new and exciting and a great graphics benchmark. But by today we've all driven the Nurburgring a million times, we've collected and driven all those cars many times over. It's nothing fresh or new, having some better trees and spectators is not gonna blow anyone away. Games like Horizon at least have the novelty of a new map and setpiece moments but even that formula is starting to get stale.

 

[Nvzman]

1440p on a 4090 is a good thing now? Game is locked 60 too.

1440p NATIVE maxed out with full ray-tracing suite enabled getting 100fps is actually very good. The game isn't even using that much VRAM, 8GB is fairly low consumption with RT enabled. Considering the visuals this seems about right.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Something going on with my GPU, performance is all over the place as its a stuttering mess with all the latest drivers, need to dig deeper

Edit - This is showing older driver version but updated today, will run NVidia update again and retest

 

[GHG]

Something going on with my GPU, performance is all over the place as its a stuttering mess with all the latest drivers, need to dig deeper

Yeh there seems to be something up, mixed reports in terms of performance on PC at the moment:

Forza Motorsport’s PC Performance Is Highly Disappointing (wccftech)

https://wccftech.com/forza-motorsports-performance-is-highly-disappointing-on-pc/ The test configuration is equipped with: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D RTX 4090 32GB RAM DDR5 WD_BLACK SN850 NvME SSD Unfortunately, Forza Motorsport does not run well at all on this beast of a PC. On the contrary, it...

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[HeisenbergFX4]

Yeh there seems to be something up, mixed reports in terms of performance on PC at the moment:

Forza Motorsport’s PC Performance Is Highly Disappointing (wccftech)

https://wccftech.com/forza-motorsports-performance-is-highly-disappointing-on-pc/ The test configuration is equipped with: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D RTX 4090 32GB RAM DDR5 WD_BLACK SN850 NvME SSD Unfortunately, Forza Motorsport does not run well at all on this beast of a PC. On the contrary, it...

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Trying to reinstall my NVidia drivers as that Benchmark showing old drivers even though I updated this morning

 

[35cent]

Hopefully the game feels good with a wheel. That has always been my main problem with Forza in the past. They have never felt good on a wheel and that's how I play my racing sims ideally.

 

[demigod]

I'm not accusing you of "shilling" in your reviews, however it's evident that if you want to stay in the good books of the people who hold the keys for your line of work a certain degree of positivity needs to be maintained (that can also come in the form of previews and general hype articles).

There's a reason why outlets like Worth a Buy (who isn't afraid to highlight all of the flaws that games have) don't get given access and are outright blacklisted in many cases.

(first 5 minutes of the video below)




General consumers who are having a chat about games on the Internet don't have such problems and don't need to have such considerations, therefore if the flaws and faults need to be discussed then so be it.

If he didn’t shill, he wouldn’t have been permed twice here on GAF.

 

[TheMan]

Man I wish there was an accurate assists option. I don’t want to have to adjust for every car.

 

[Thick Thighs Save Lives]

I've updated the OP with more written reviews (IGN, Gamespot, Eurogamer, Game Informer). Have changed the opencritic screenshot as well as the avg score has risen to 84.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

New drivers freshly installed and still getting stutters but it ran better

 

[BouncyFrag]

Browsing the reviews it looks like the career mode is solid. It’s been ages since I’ve dug into a racing game proper.

 

[MonkeyClaw36]

All this time in the oven and it's getting worse reviews than GT7.

Not a good look.

STOP IT!!! It's a good score for a racing game. The fact that it scores lower doesn't say jackshit about the game itself.

82-84 MC is now "Not a good look"

Get your fucking head sorted mate, like for real.

 

[Heisenberg007]

STOP IT!!! It's a good score for a racing game. The fact that it scores lower doesn't say jackshit about the game itself.

What does the lower score say then? And what does the score describe if not the game?

 

[Spitfire098]

What does the lower score say then? And what does the score describe if not the game?

 

[kuncol02]

LOL why is there so much fire when cars collide? Reminds me of Tony Hawk's Pro Skater.

Edit

Full 3D spectators?

Bonus

And that is from the PC version maxed out. Ouch.

If you need to call your video "honest" then you are not honest.

 

[Zathalus]

STOP IT!!! It's a good score for a racing game. The fact that it scores lower doesn't say jackshit about the game itself.

82-84 MC is now "Not a good look"

Get your fucking head sorted mate, like for real.

Yeah, apparently games that score in the 80s on opencritic are somehow bad now.

Better throw almost my entire library of games out the window.

 

[acm2000]

why do people constantly lose their shit over Metacritic? the "critics recommended" on opencritic is more useful but just play the game and make your own mind up.. but of course most the people who are losing their minds in this thread will never actually play the game

 

[nikos]

7800X3D / 4090 / 32GB DDR5 / WD SN850X Gen 4

Something is definitely wrong with the game on PC. It's not rendering at native resolution internally. Have to set it to 150-200% and it still doesn't look good. DLSS/DLAA don't help. Will try DSR next. I don't even mind turning RT off for a good image quality.

Have tried at both 21:9 380x1600 and 32:9 5120x1440.

Included DLSS version is 3.1.1. Replaced it with 3.5 for good measure.

Benchmark tool is kind of worthless, as sometimes the camera is behind the car and sometimes it's in front of the car, looking back.

Between figuring this out and wheel settings, it's looking like I'm going to have a long day of tweaking rather than playing.

 

[64bitmodels]

I think part of it is that trackracing games are no longer a novelty that they were during those days, those games had plenty of flaws but it was something new and exciting and a great graphics benchmark. But by today we've all driven the Nurburgring a million times, we've collected and driven all those cars many times over. It's nothing fresh or new, having some better trees and spectators is not gonna blow anyone away. Games like Horizon at least have the novelty of a new map and setpiece moments but even that formula is starting to get stale.

its not that, its just the deterioration of game design. Forza's new campaign seems to try to reverse this (which i hope to see more of) but in general both franchises have lost their amazing campaigns and traded them for something not as good instead of innovating and making their formulas more fun. Horizon as well instead of improving on the progression found in FH1 will just give you supercars very quickly.

People really like driving cars on realistic tracks hence the popularity of sims like Assetto Corsa. But people also like a game that gives them a journey and an experience to work for.
if what you were saying was really true, people wouldn't be pining for the glory days of GT4 or FM4, people would just be like "oh those games were fun back then but racing games are just boring now"

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

So seems Particle Effects Quality is the main source of my stutters as turning that to low instead of auto has made a huge improvement, running very smoothly now except the cutscenes which still stutter

 

[CatLady]

Will be posting some screens here in the morning on a 4090 in ultrawide

Awesome, I have no interest in playing a track racing game, but I know it's going to look fantastic. Can't wait to see them.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Awesome, I have no interest in playing a track racing game, but I know it's going to look fantastic. Can't wait to see them.

Still hammering out some performance issues and getting through the early races (basically the tutorials) but will start taking some shots soon

 

[John Wick]

People really expect a small studio like Turn 10 to outdo a juggernaut like PD? Unrealistic expectations.

Game should end up in the high 70s Low 80s and that's okay.

PD are a relatively small studio. They aren't some juggernaut like you stated.
Also Turn10 and PG share tech and engine, so improvement is passed on etc.

 

[analog_future]

STOP IT!!! It's a good score for a racing game. The fact that it scores lower doesn't say jackshit about the game itself.

82-84 MC is now "Not a good look"

Get your fucking head sorted mate, like for real.

It's been hyped to hell as being "built from the ground up for next gen", is the first FM game in 6 years, and it's scoring 5 points worse than it's direct competitor that came out a year ago and was criticized for being cross-gen.

The disappointment is absolutely warranted. Just look at the score predictions in this very thread. It clearly didn't meet what most were expecting.


Still looking forward to playing it!


EDIT - I do see that it's at an 85 now on OpenCritic. Good to see it's more-or-less caught up to it's direct competition.

 

[64bitmodels]

it's scoring 5 points worse than it's direct competitor that came out a year ago and was criticized for being cross-gen.

5 points? GT7 scored 87. this scored 84 (85, if we're on OpenCritic). 2-3 points isn't that much lower.

Not to mention that everyone here's ignoring the massive elephant in the room, here. The GT7 user score. It's infamously abysmal. it's been a year and it still hasn't climbed back up to an acceptable level, on both PS5 and PS4.

 

[analog_future]

5 points? GT7 scored 87. this scored 84 (85, if we're on OpenCritic). 2-3 points isn't that much lower.

Not to mention that everyone here's ignoring the massive elephant in the room, here. The GT7 user score. It's infamously abysmal. it's been a year and it still hasn't climbed back up to an acceptable level, on both platforms.

It was at an 82 when I looked at it earlier. An 85 is a nicer score for sure.

 

[64bitmodels]

The GT7 user score. It's infamously abysmal. it's been a year and it still hasn't climbed back up to an acceptable level, on both PS5 and PS4.

I'm not saying that Forza's will be higher, it could easily be worse.

What I am saying however is that Ass of Can Whooping should get to making 10,000 Metacritic alts for when user scores open up on Oct 10.

 

[splattered]

It's a racing game, they're fun but as someone else has pointed out in this thread there really isn't a lot of evolution or revolution in traditional racing sims. We've done all this alot with some graphical upgrades sprinkled in along the way. Seems to be reviewing solid, i will prob buy ultimate version eventually but right now not really buying games in general. Starting to feel burnt out a bit i guess.

 

[Sleepwalker]

5 points? GT7 scored 87. this scored 84 (85, if we're on OpenCritic). 2-3 points isn't that much lower.

Not to mention that everyone here's ignoring the massive elephant in the room, here. The GT7 user score. It's infamously abysmal. it's been a year and it still hasn't climbed back up to an acceptable level, on both PS5 and PS4.

That userscore is deserved after the always online bullshit and then having to shutdown the servers making the game unplayable. They even had to issue compensation.

 

[NickFire]

I'm not saying that Forza's will be higher, it could easily be worse.

What I am saying however is that Ass of Can Whooping should get to making 10,000 Metacritic alts for when user scores open up on Oct 10.

He will probably pop in to confirm he's on the job at some point. I hope he never changes. Always cracks me up.

 

[SEGAvangelist]

It was at an 82 when I looked at it earlier. An 85 is a nicer score for sure.

The 82 was because an 8/10 was counted as 8/100. Looks like it was corrected.

 

[LordBlodgett]

Damn, what a terrible year.

Now that they Lost the crown I wonder what they'll do.

What? This year has been filled with awesome games, what are you talking about?

 

[Erebus]

Has the preload started on Steam yet? Anyone know?

 

[analog_future]

The 82 was because an 8/10 was counted as 8/100. Looks like it was corrected.

I mean shit, an 85 is great as far as I'm concerned.

I was feeling a bit gloomy after seeing an 82 this morning and thinking it may continue to drop into the high 70s or something, but an 85 after the dust is settled is great.

 

[SEGAvangelist]

I mean shit, an 85 is great as far as I'm concerned.

I was feeling a bit gloomy after seeing an 82 this morning and thinking it may continue to drop into the high 70s or something, but an 85 after the dust is settled is great.

Yeah, when I saw it, I thought something had to be wrong. No way a Forza game could end up as low as an 82 on OpenCritic.

 

[JackMcGunns]

LOL why is there so much fire when cars collide? Reminds me of Tony Hawk's Pro Skater.

Edit

Full 3D spectators?

Bonus

And that is from the PC version maxed out. Ouch.

Isn't that from the preview build that DF talked about being fixed?

 

[Insane Metal]

Isn't that from the preview build that DF talked about being fixed?

No, final version, PC maxed out.

 

[Elder Legend]

For the full review of the game.

They did that along with forbidding any outlet from talking about the state of the last gen console versions until well after the embargo.

My view is that the only thing they should be allowed to enforce is the date and time for the review embargo, anything else should be fair game and they shouldn't need to be selective about who they do and don't give review copies to.

Now that you mention this. I remember there was a lot of review drama about Cyberpunk and trashing of reviewers because they gave it high scores and then the game came out and it was dog shit to the point where Sony had to give refunds and take it down. Yongyea I believe gave it a high score and then got swarmed on social media and then he eventually apologized and admitted he fucked up the review if I am not mistaken.

Yeah, I've never seen any game I've ever reviewed from any of the big publishers I've ever worked with to only allow B roll footage. I been doing this for over 10 years.

I believe this was a very special case scenario and a decision specifically by CDProjekt red or whoever is in charge of their PR decision. They also did the publishing, it's rare for a big studio to do self publishing as well. They don't have a traditional publisher like everyone else does.

Ive worked with a lot of AAA publisher you can think from including Bandai Namco, Sony, Microsoft, EA, Ubisoft, Bethesda, Capcom, Activision Blizzard and the list goes on.

Game is very good now from what I heard, but it took three years.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

I'm not saying that Forza's will be higher, it could easily be worse.

What I am saying however is that Ass of Can Whooping should get to making 10,000 Metacritic alts for when user scores open up on Oct 10.

 

[clarky]

Has the preload started on Steam yet? Anyone know?

Yesterday.

 

[64bitmodels]

 

[demigod]

This isn’t funny

 

[Cashon]

This isn’t funny

Humor is subjective.

 

[64bitmodels]

This isn’t funny

Come on he even has the playstation fanboy terrorist avatar.

it's only appropriate, lol

 

[Reave]

Between this and Starfield, glad to see some nicely reviewed games coming to Xbox.

 

[Senua]

 

[graywolf323]

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

Those Xbox review sites exist solely to pad out scores for Xbox games don't they? That means these games are worse than what their score suggests.

It's an epidemic. There's some culling to be done on that front.