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Frank Ocean pens letter to Grammy producers, annihilating them in the process.
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No need for that. Love him but I found that album boring.
MercuryLS3
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Fuck the grammys, that album is a masterpiece.
MrS
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Super Rich Kids wasn't really a hit.
"Novacane" was not a "huge" hit.
Frank Ocean is not a mainstream artist.
Most people have no idea who he is and have never heard those songs.
That's not relevant to their quality of course. He's brilliant. But not knowing Frank Ocean is not even remotely strange.
too much ignorance in this thread ��
my man just went 1 million without a label
The pop lobby is very powerful on GAF and you've just fallen into one of their baits.
You just have to realize that there's whole group of people out there who legitimitely believe that Taylor Swift is a better musician than Beethoven.
1989 -> every song except New Romantics
TPAB -> Mortal Man, Blacker the Berry, Alright....
Sorry guys 1989 was a cultural milestone. TPAB was an interesting, thought provoking project. imo
TPAB -> Mortal Man, Blacker the Berry, Alright....
Sorry guys 1989 was a cultural milestone. TPAB was an interesting, thought provoking project. imo
Well they gave Beck's Morning Phase AOTY and that album was certainly not as good, comercially or critically, as BEYONCE. They've made weird decisions.
Yeah havent heard of this artist or any of these hits. Took a quick listen to em just now, not enough catchy tunes for me ._.
old manatee
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so dope
Morning Phase was definitely a better album than Beyonce though.
MrS
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They didn't say his vision was faulty because he didn't listen to them, they are saying his performance was bad because he didn't listen to them and went with his vision. After watching it I would agree that the performance was bad but who knows if they would have done better.
Beyond the fact the song is just plain stupid.
Perfect Blue
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buhahahaha
NHarmonic.
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So hip hop vs pop?
1989 is a great album, this sounds so salty and gratuitous to TS.
1989 is a great album, this sounds so salty and gratuitous to TS.
Yeah it was definitely one of Beck's best albums. I'd say it was better than the competition. I just don't think it was as significant as BEYONCE.
Which award shows are actually good? Grammys sucks. AMA, VMA, Iheart?
People bitch that these awards don't mean anything but then bitch when people they think should win don't.
It's like getting worked over end of year lists or who is in someone's top 10. Who cares?
Just watch the performances
People bitch that these awards don't mean anything but then bitch when people they think should win don't.
It's like getting worked over end of year lists or who is in someone's top 10. Who cares?
Just watch the performances
MrS
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Beyonce's music is insignificant. It's throwaway. In 50 years nobody will give a fuck about it.
Hierophant
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you should swap those two albums around and it'd be correct
i consider 1989 a solid 8 but TPAB is another level
if you consider it on pure pop though which is what the grammies measures, 1989 would win no matter what but as a cohesive project and artwork? TPAB no question
It wasn't even nominated, shit got me heated.
QuantumSquid
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I'm a huge Beck fan and I disagree completely. It's just a less interesting Sea Change.
MrS
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Andre's verse was the highlight.
Yeah like c'mon Rap Album of The Year is cool and all but that album was just something different. It was more then rap entirely. Album is iconic and will ultimately go down as one of the best albums ever made.
MrS
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I know, I agree with you. Beyonce isn't capable of making a better album than Beck. She lacks the artistry. Her army of songwriters aren't on Beck's level.
Mushroomer25
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I feel like there's a cultural consensus that the Grammys are bullshit, more so than other awards. I recall The Simpsons mocking them on the regular bake in the day, in a way you don't see with Emmys/Tonys/Oscars etc.
They're on the same level as the Golden Globes. Which is to say, presumed as corrupt.
QuantumSquid
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Taylor Swift's music is catchy but insignificant in its meaning
Kendrick Lamar's music is significant, it's memorable, it tells a story.
Kendrick Lamar's music is significant, it's memorable, it tells a story.
blame space
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Back-In-Black
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Lmfao
You know what's dumb? Thinking anyone can objectively compare any music.
It's entirely subjective.
As someone who has listened to mostly non-popular music for my entire life, with zero of the artists I thought were great ever getting any recognition, let alone an award, I really don't see the value in having the ceremony at all, let alone arguing about who should have won whichever award.
It's entirely subjective.
As someone who has listened to mostly non-popular music for my entire life, with zero of the artists I thought were great ever getting any recognition, let alone an award, I really don't see the value in having the ceremony at all, let alone arguing about who should have won whichever award.
Nah. Everything from the stealth release, the music video album concept, and the lyrical content that led to her follow up will be widely discussed compared to Beck's. But to each their own.
1989 was all I heard for almost the entire year whereas Kendrick did not even perform a good chunk of his album on tour. It just seemed like there was not nearly a following for it as there should have been. Both albums deserved to win but its no shock to see 1989 win. It certainly wasn't as glaring a loss as M.a.a.d.
MrS
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Are you sure? I thought he was just saying alright over and over and foolishly talking about a God that doesn't exist.
SoundsOfScience
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MrS
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...neither will Taylor Swift. They're both garbage. This thread is about Frank Ocean, who is a little less bad than those two.
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