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Game of Thrones *NO BOOK DISCUSSION* |OT| Season 7 - [Read the OP]

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Speely

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Robot Pants said:
He's definitely gonna be the hero of the show
(When he inevitably kills Cercei)
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I def think his redemption arc will continue until the end, no matter what.

Mindfuck material: Bran caused Jaime to push Bran to his near-death. I am almost 100% on this. Think about how much that would change how we view Jaime.

And it makes sense.
 
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The One and Done™

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Speely said:
I def think his redemption arc will continue until the end, no matter what.

Mindfuck material: Bran caused Jaime to push Bran to his near-death. I am almost 100% on this. Think about how much that would change how we view Jaime.

And it makes sense.
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That'd be fucking stupid tbh. I pray they don't do anything that dumb.
 
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Heshinsi

"playing" dumb? unpossible
Speely said:
I def think his redemption arc will continue until the end, no matter what.

Mindfuck material: Bran caused Jaime to push Bran to his near-death. I am almost 100% on this. Think about how much that would change how we view Jaime.

And it makes sense.
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Huh? He pushed him because peeping Bran caught them in the act.
 
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Nerokis

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Heshinsi said:
We don't know who tried to assassinate Bran. Only that LF lied and put the blame on Tyrion, which caused dumb ass Catlyn to kidnap him, which led to Jaime attacking Ned, which in turn made Tywin have to take to the battlefield to get Tyrion back, and on and on. LF is conniving little shit that's for sure.
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Bran tried to assassinate Bran.

The Children of the Forest are evil, and manipulated Bran into becoming the Three Eyed Raven for some nefarious purpose.

The bit of Bran that still remains managed to surface just long enough to go back in time, and set in motion a series of events that would lead to his assassination. The problem?

"You're not supposed to be here. No one's supposed to be here," as the assassin muttered to Catelyn. Bran miscalculated, and his past, comatose form had company. Or maybe it was less a miscalculation, and more that there are some things Bran isn't allowed to change.

The assassin said something else revealing: "It's a mercy. He's dead already." You know who else would agree with that statement?

Meera. "You died in that cave." Except Bran didn't quite die. Now that he's stuck somewhere in the depths of the Three Eyed Raven, he wishes he had.
 
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Haly

One day I realized that sadness is just another word for not enough coffee.
Speely said:
Elaborate.
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I'd ask the same of you. How would it make sense, narratively or dramatically? The last time he warged someone he left their language center incapacitated.

Dramatically, it'd completely neuter Jaime's character and would be a waste of a couple of years' work.

And if you want to say "well this warging is different", you'd be able to extend it to everything in the show. Mad King Aerys was warged. Viserys was warged. Joffrey was warged. Hell maybe Drogon was warged too that one time.
 
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DopeyFish

Not bitter, just unsweetened
While bran had no hand :) in pushing himself out the window, there's a small chance he played a part in the attempt on his life... perhaps as the only way to align everything against the WW or perhaps even the only way to have the dagger fall into the right hands

Since the hodor paradox exists, why not.
 
Randy Lanzarote

Randy Lanzarote

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Jamie pushed Bran out of a window, killed his cousin to escape Stark Jail. Didn't he have a hand in Jon Arryn's death as well?

I'm not sure he's the hero Westeros needs.


Not when (Ser) Pod is going through his weekly montage of getting fitter, faster, stronger.....
 
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Haly

One day I realized that sadness is just another word for not enough coffee.
It's all a dream inside Bran's head. They're still back at Winterfell, alive, with the Lannister's over for dinner. Cersei is not actually fucking Jaime, Bran is just a little pervert.
 
Atomic Odin

Atomic Odin

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Nerokis said:
Bran tried to assassinate Bran.

The Children of the Forest are evil, and manipulated Bran into becoming the Three Eyed Raven for some nefarious purpose.

The bit of Bran that still remains managed to surface just long enough to go back in time, and set in motion a series of events that would lead to his assassination. The problem?

"You're not supposed to be here. No one's supposed to be here," as the assassin muttered to Catelyn. Bran miscalculated, and his past, comatose form had company. Or maybe it was less a miscalculation, and more that there are some things Bran isn't allowed to change.

The assassin said something else revealing: "It's a mercy. He's dead already." You know who else would agree with that statement?

Meera. "You died in that cave." Except Bran didn't quite die. Now that he's stuck somewhere in the depths of the Three Eyed Raven, he wishes he had.
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These Bran theories are giving Moffat's Doctor Who run a run for their money
 
jm89

jm89

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Nerokis said:
Bran tried to assassinate Bran.

The Children of the Forest are evil, and manipulated Bran into becoming the Three Eyed Raven for some nefarious purpose.

The bit of Bran that still remains managed to surface just long enough to go back in time, and set in motion a series of events that would lead to his assassination. The problem?

"You're not supposed to be here. No one's supposed to be here," as the assassin muttered to Catelyn. Bran miscalculated, and his past, comatose form had company. Or maybe it was less a miscalculation, and more that there are some things Bran isn't allowed to change.

The assassin said something else revealing: "It's a mercy. He's dead already." You know who else would agree with that statement?

Meera. "You died in that cave." Except Bran didn't quite die. Now that he's stuck somewhere in the depths of the Three Eyed Raven, he wishes he had.
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Why would he want to kill him self though? He could so many other things to prevent that rather than wipe himself from existence.

If he managed to kill himself the white walkers would still exist and the children would just pick someone else as the three eyed raven. And if they didn't find anyone then everyone else would be even more fucked.
 
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Haly

One day I realized that sadness is just another word for not enough coffee.
Bran is why the Children of the Forest were desperate enough to create WWs in the first place.

No More Bran.
 
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Patrick Bateman

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When you think about the whole thing of Jamie and Cersei in the tower:
They are over for dinner, why the fuck did they need to fuck right then and there?
Couldn't they keep their pants up for like a couple of days??
 
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Bananajama

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7he Talon said:
My guess is that it'll have something to do with dragons. He'll survive their fire or something like that.
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I'd love to see the dragons breathe fire on him.

Dany all smily on the dragons back as it happens
(or horrified - dependent on previous chats)

Then out of the smoke a naked Jon stands there going...

WTF?!?
 
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theaface

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Einchy said:
(GoT) Jaime Lannister | Kingslayer
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Devilinthiscity said:
Not sure if this has been posted on here yet, but this was pretty amazing. Jamie has been one of my favorite characters in the series and I hope he gets some kind of redemption in the end.

Oathbreaker
https://youtu.be/R1fsTYP-N0s
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He's a great character and definitely complex/grey, but these videos really gloss over the heinous shit he's done including pushing a young child out of tower window because the child saw him fucking his sister.
 
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Devilinthiscity

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theaface said:
He's a great character and definitely complex/grey, but these videos really gloss over the heinous shit he's done including pushing a young child out of tower window because the child saw him fucking his sister.
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Lol, they did show him push Bran out of the window, but I know what you mean. I absolutely hated him the first couple of seasons. The love for is sister is strong but I feel like either Cersi is going to be the death of him or he is the one who is going to kill her in the end. He will be king/queen slayer.
 
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Massa

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Patrick Bateman said:
When you think about the whole thing of Jamie and Cersei in the tower:
They are over for dinner, why the fuck did they need to fuck right then and there?
Couldn't they keep their pants up for like a couple of days??
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They traveled for a month to get to Winterfell, couldn't do it on the road.
 
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LegendofDragoonLives

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theaface said:
He's a great character and definitely complex/grey, but these videos really gloss over the heinous shit he's done including pushing a young child out of tower window because the child saw him fucking his sister.
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He's one of the best characters in the series. He's went through so many variations to now "I don't give a fuck about my life" Jaime. It's kinda sad to see. It was really sad how he walked away from Olenna in ep3 and how he went to his death to stop the Mad King 2.0 (in his eyes). I'm assuming Danny tells the soldiers, Bronn & Jaime to bend the knee. I can see everyone easily doing it, but him seeing the fire it's difficult to grasp unless Tyrion convinces him.

On the topic of Tyrion, I do hope he comes back to form as he's one of my favorite characters. It seems like since he went to Essos, he caught Danny's boring personality disorder since then and hasn't done much. Even though Danny this season has s1 return to form and is very interesting. Writers just haven't done much with Tyrion esp as he's a wizard with words since they can't rely on 1,000 page books anymore. It feels like Varys and to some degree Littlefinger fall under that trap. The three wisest characters that have the most beautiful dialogue, that has fallen a bit in quality without GRIMM's references.

also

two. more. days.
 
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Vincent Alexander

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PropelledRage said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8eDZnqi_Rg

Posted this in the other thread. His little chat with Edmure didn't gave me any indications Jaime has been redeemed or is on the path of redemption.

Olenna said it best.. "You love her? Oh you poor fool.."
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This part of the show really bothered me...Still not sure why Edmure cared more about a wife he didn't to marry and a child he's never met.

But that video posted is pretty good.
 
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Travo

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Draper said:
So do the dragons have to go back to their home planet after this cost-intensive episode?
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