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Game of Thrones *NO BOOK SPOILERS* |OT| Season 4 - Sundays on HBO [Read the OP]
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I thought it was going to get to a point where Joffrey was going to lose it and either say something to her about interrupting him or worse.
damn... this is really good
dsp
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Unlike the rest of Westeros, Dorne wasn't conquered by Aegon Targaryen.
From the show's wiki.
House Martell - Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken.
I've read several of the most recent pages and I'm unfortunately lost as to the necklace theory.
When is this exchange between Grandma and Sansa? Is there a stone missing from Sansa's necklace during the actually wedding dinner? I'm not seeing it.
Thanks for helping me see the light.
When is this exchange between Grandma and Sansa? Is there a stone missing from Sansa's necklace during the actually wedding dinner? I'm not seeing it.
Thanks for helping me see the light.
This cut was so good. Every Theon scene gives me the creeps though, they're unsettling (obviously meant to be but I don't like it).
Ignatz Mouse
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I only just realised Olenna is Diana Rigg from The Avengers.
<3
And Mrs Tracy Bond as well
(for about as long as Margary was Mrs Baratheon, anyway).
99% sure it's Ollenna.
No way it's Cersei, Jamie or Tyrion. Tywin is possible but I doubt it. Sansa is very very unlikely.
Viserys might be involved but again I highly doubt it.
Old lady is the only one that's probable.
Edit: by Viserys I meant the bald guy
Nameless
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Roose Bolton was one of Robb Stark's bannernen and trusted advisors. House Bolton's sigil is the 'Flayed Man', or someone being crucified on a large X shaped structure. Ned Stark banned the act of flaying in the North but the old saying goes, "A flayed man has no secrets." Roose's bastard Ramsey resurrects the barbaric practice after capturing Theon and his men fleeing Winterfell. Theon's men are flayed to death.
Roose married Walder Frey's fattest daughter, that portly woman he introduced to Ramsey this episode. Frey offered him his chosen bride's weight in silver, so he chose the fat one. After Robb breaks his vow to marry another one of Frey's daughters, Roose begins plotting against him, which eventually results in Winterfell being burned down by Ramsey, Jaime being set free by Bolton forces, and the Red Wedding. As a reward, Tywin awards Roose Ned's old title of Warden of the North.
The Horror the horror
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I simply cannot understand how Lord Tywin would allow the spectacle of Tyrion's public humiliation to continue. He seems like a very disciplined and no-nonsense type of patriarch, yet he's not once pulled the king privately to the side and advised him to tone down his constant and public harassment of another family member. Now everyone suspects the Lannisters are a dysfunctional family, which is the sort of reputation Tywin historically has tried to conceal.
Margaery Tyrell is the only one that stepped up.
Margaery Tyrell is the only one that stepped up.
Phoenician_Viking
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Tywin does not give a shit except about the Lannister name.
See here: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=108071976&postcount=2065
And here: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=108073086&postcount=2082
And incidentally, what she says during that part here: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=108081918&postcount=2273
Remember that this necklace was given to Sansa by the Fool in the previous episode.
lol yeah, was legit worried something would come of it but alas - she prevailed!
The Horror the horror
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You might be right.
I remember the episode where Ollenna and Margaery urged Sansa to be forthcoming with them about Joffrey's treatment of her. Their response to her horrific story seemed contemplative.
Unspeakable Evil
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So apparently Tommen Baratheon went through puberty and grew up.....do to an apparent recasting.
Psychoward
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Viserys? Wasn't Viserys Dany's brother who's been dead for three seasons?
The Horror the horror
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I disagree. The name of the family means everything to the old man. He doesn't want the family to be perceived as fractured, weak, or a joke. He runs shit through fear and reputation.
BREAKING_BADger
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Everything that comes out of Bronn's mouth is pure gold.
Whoa!!! Mind blown!!! That is awesome!
Thanks for clearing that up. I saw the part about killing a man at his wedding but didn't notice her handling the necklace ever.
I love this lady.
demosthenes
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He probably meant to type Varys.
To my main man, Joffrey, RIP in peace you glorious bastard.
ComputerBlue
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In regards to it being Olenna. Here's a recap of screens I found for those who don't feel like digging through the thread for pictures.
http://imgur.com/a/LY9b2
I also just took a screenshot of something I mentioned in an earlier post that I noticed when re watching last night.
At this very moment, the camera focuses off of Margaery while the priest says "Cursed be he who would tear them asunder"
http://imgur.com/a/LY9b2
I also just took a screenshot of something I mentioned in an earlier post that I noticed when re watching last night.
At this very moment, the camera focuses off of Margaery while the priest says "Cursed be he who would tear them asunder"
AlphaSnake
...and that, kids, was the first time I sucked a dick for crack
I was thinking it'd be the pie too...and perhaps maybe it were the Doves that were diseased that contaminated the pie? There were quite a few of them that were dead in there and bleeding after he sliced them with his sword.
AlphaSnake
...and that, kids, was the first time I sucked a dick for crack
In regards to it being Olenna. Here's a recap of screens I found for those who don't feel like digging through the thread for pictures.
http://imgur.com/a/LY9b2
I also just took a screenshot of something I mentioned in an earlier post that I noticed when re watching last night.
At this very moment, the camera focuses off of Margaery while the priest says "Cursed be he who would tear them asunder"
Yeah, I noticed that too.
Could be possible too. Hmmm
Sorry, I tend to mix up the names.
I meant the bald guy who deals with secrets n shit.
edit: oh and Oberyn might be in on it too.
Ollenna alone or Ollenna and Oberyn.
So apparently Tommen Baratheon went through puberty and grew up.....do to an apparent recasting.
How many people were recasted?
The Mountain I know of and that's a good one. Tommen I had no idea, the previous actor looked like half this new one's age wasn't he? The new Darrio is like nowhere near as great as the original.
Bran's face also gets longer every season, I swear.
Puberty's hitting that kid hard.
A friend said aloud during that scene, "She's great."
Indeed, I think the Tyrell's are my favorite family. Less patriarchal and seemingly good, but not as foolishly honorable as the Starks.
Scully Scully Scoo
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damn looks like u guys solved the mystery. i wish i could stay away from this thread but i just cant, the suspense is killing me
The Horror the horror
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I didn't realize how much of a maniac Joffrey was until the last episode. He was cackling like a lunatic - squirming in his seat, spit flying from his mouth - at the performance of the 5 little kings. It wasn't until that moment when I realized the kingdom was in the hands of a certifiable psychopath. The reoccurring and offsetting shot of Sansa staring frozenly at the performance was superb.
Lol agreed.
Although to be fair, Ollenna/Margary seem kinda obvious if you think about it.
Would be funny if it was someone completely different.
StormyTheRabbit
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Him killing a prostitute with a crossbow didn't do it for you?
Almost too obvious imo
Scully Scully Scoo
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it could be worse, i just accidentally wandered into the spoiler thread just now because the 2 thread where listed next to each other. luckily i didnt read anything i just seen a gif of the king dying #thankgod
Unspeakable Evil
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How long has it been since Ned died? A year?
Seems like just those 3.
il Diavolo
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For me it was when he forced Ros to beat that girl. That's the moment I realized Joffrey wasn't just a heartless dick, but a fucking lunatic.
Psychoward
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If anything I was expecting Tyrion to lose it and stab Joffrey right there.
Ninja Scooter
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That's the thing, all of the obvious signs and set-ups point to Olenna, but we are all assuming they are going to drag this out into a "Who Shot JR?" type mystery. For all we know they are going to make it obvious and clear who did this in the first 5 minutes of the next episode, in which case it has to be Olenna. Too many clear signs for it not to be. The only thing that makes me not think it's her is that she is too smart to know that they have to consummate the marriage first and could have waited until after that to kill Joffrey. She can't just assume that Margery will just be passed along to the next Baratheon kid. That's a pretty huge risk to take with as much power as there was at stake.
If they are going to go for some Scooby Doo style mystery, my dark horse is Cersei, only the poison was meant for Margery somehow.
But why would Lady Olenna do such a thing? I mean as much as she despises Joffrey, she knows her granddaughters best interest is that he has to live at least until she's pregnant. Now the throne either goes to Tommen or Stannis etc steps back in the game.
Currently she nor her family doesn't gain anything to kill him. They do lose a lot though.
Currently she nor her family doesn't gain anything to kill him. They do lose a lot though.
Why you posting unmarked spoilers bro
I had OHMSS spoiled for me before I watched it and I was pissed. It ruined the most powerful scene in Bond history.
ComputerBlue
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For all we know she could be working with others, perhaps to slowly kill off those who are in power until they rule the 7 kingdoms.
Maybe even Varys was in on it - "For the good of the realm."
GRRM is a brilliant though, it could be for reasons we'd never be able to guess. Maybe it's for something so simple like protecting her daughter from a maniac.
The Horror the horror
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Joffrey's death happened after the wedding. Margaery should still be queen, right?
Misterinenja
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One of the most lovable villains passes and the Queen of Snores continues to not get eaten alive by her pets.
ComputerBlue
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Someone mentioned earlier that she's not officially the queen until they consummate. Not sure how true that is though.
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