Pankratous
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Even woman and children are formidable enemies. His goal wasn't only to secure strong men, but to lessen the size of the army of the dead.
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Even woman and children are formidable enemies. His goal wasn't only to secure strong men, but to lessen the size of the army of the dead.
RustyNails
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Jon probably has the fanbase armor.I know everyone thinks Jon Snow has plot armor now, which is exactly why I expect him to have the big death this season/next episode.
Don't do this to me
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John has plot armor because without him you have zero investment in what's happening at the wall. Same with Dany, without her you wouldn't give a shit about what's happening overseas.
The Lamonster
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except now Tyrion's there.
It's also a political mission. Changing public perception, etc.
The thing about plot armor is at this point we are getting towards the end. You can kill a character with plot armor during the last season so their armor won't last TOO MUCH longer.
moltonasty
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Exactly. Theres only 2-3 more seasons left. And plus if Jon dies they could simply stop focusing on things going on at the wall, or have another major character find their way there. I'm fully ready for Jon to die soon, he's just too good of a character and as we all know this series loves to do this to us.
TheLostBigBoss
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Wildling dude is getting some decent screen time and characterization.
If Jon gets axed he could easily take over for the perspective of the Wall/White Walker story.
RustyNails
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Stop talking about Jon dying you wildlings. Dude is the only good Stark we have and you all want to kill him.
Really I thought it was 1-2?
If it's 3 seasons... that's a long time and I kinda take it back.
moltonasty
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Hey no one said anything wanting to kill him! I also didn't want/expect all the other major characters to get wrecked season after season, so it's only logical to expect it at this point. Jon has been set up as the main hero on the show, and we know what that means for his fate.
I hope I'm wrong though.
And yeah, D & D said that the show may go one season past the books, so 8 seasons total. So 2-3 left at this point.
I hope I'm wrong though.
And yeah, D & D said that the show may go one season past the books, so 8 seasons total. So 2-3 left at this point.
The Lamonster
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oh wow. good call
it's not about we want to kill him, it's we know they will him and we are just embracing the fact...
history proves all good starks die...
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Knowing this show, they'll probably kill him.
It appears to me at least that Dany along with Tyrion is the only who is definitely safe. There is no tension in Dany scenes, because I know she's too popular a character with the viewership. She's obviously the character the show runners want to centre this show around as a result.
RustyNails
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Na, history proves all the dumb Starks die like Ned and his righteous 'i'll expose the Lannisters' crap and Robb doublecrossing a dangerous man.
ComputerBlue
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If that's the case then he's safe since he's a Snow and Arya is dead since she's not ready and that makes no difference to the many faced God.
as if going to Hardhome wasn't dumb enough.. sure..
his intentions were good, as with Ned and Robb who had "brilliant" ideas
well yeah.. a snow.. we all know hes stark at heart... may be targeryen... and when arya becomes a faceless woman, she will be as good as dead since she will be stark no more..
RustyNails
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Hardhome didn't backfire. It was actually a pretty successful mission.
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his goal was to unite the tribes and convince them to join the forces at the wall so as to be better prepared for the WWs.
pretty sure after that brutal attack he's got little convincing to do at this point. Now, the only thing that stands between Jon uniting the free folks and the crows is Olly and his simmering, unrelenting angst.
Soundtrack samples on Amazon.
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http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00YQGTDZM/?tag=neogaf0e-20
The titles of the tracks could hint to future events, so be careful.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00YQGTDZM/?tag=neogaf0e-20
I don't like that boy.. I know something bad will come out of his anger ... and I reaaaally hope I'm wrong, I want him to erase that vengeance
doesn't made it a less risky mission, because of things that risky Ned and Robb died, this one time Jon was forgiven
MMBosstones86
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I'd be shocked if they killed of Jon. Now that they are finally getting into his lineage, I think it's pretty clear he needs to be around for the endgame.
Please?
ComputerBlue
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The really unfortunate thing about this statement is that it's because they're all dead, and not because they realized it's better to join forces with the Night's Watch.
I wonder how many made it on the boats, but I'm assuming it was a small amount considering how crowded this shot is moments before the attack.
RustyNails
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Fuck Olly tho
moltonasty
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Olly gonna kill Jon and take his place as the Lord Commander.
The really unfortunate thing about this statement is that it's because they're all dead, and not because they realized it's better to join forces with the Night's Watch.
I wonder how many made it on the boats, but I'm assuming it was a small amount considering how crowded this shot is moments before the attack.
I'm going to assume almost 80-90% of the wildlings died/got zombified in the attacks considering how many were on the other side of the gate they closed, and how many got killed afterwards.
Which makes me wonder why the Night Watch would even care about the Wildlings(not like they actually cared much before anyway). They're not gonna need them anymore, with how little there is left of their army.
LegendofDragoonLives
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His plan is a lot better than his brother's or father's. The only problem was him going with Tormend there, that was the huge risk but it paid off big time since Tormend isn't an idiot and didn't backstab him.
I'm fairly confident Jon will make it until season 7 at least. If he or Sansa die this season however, I'm going to rage. -_-moltonasty said:
They have 50-200 soldiers at the moment. I'm sure several hundred actual soldiers made it onto the ships, so their numbers for warriors will multiply regardless.Bisnic said:
Also +1 Giant.
ComputerBlue
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If I had the option of having Tormund and Wun Wun fighting along side me I sure as shit wouldn't turn it down, lol. Like they said, they'll take any help they can get.
They're going to need a lot more help though. I love this excerpt from the History and Lore of S3 as narrated by Jon Snow.
"Southerners may now mock my black brothers as thieves, rapists and worse, but not without cause. But the North remembers why we're there, and if we fall, the south will get a very harsh, and very cold reminder."
I don't want Jon to die, but I want the south to get that reminder.
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They never explained how that giant got into the hut. The door is way too low and there didnt seem to be any other entry ways. did they just build the hut around him?
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mercenar1e
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He lifted the roof like a hat
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even then, isn't it a dick move to not make the hut giant compatible? I dunno, youd think they'd at least have one hut that was giant compatible for tribal pow wows
The Janitor
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Was the WW kings face CGI this time? Cause I thought it looked a lot better in season 4:
His face in the latest episode just looks kinda off compared to the other WWs.
His face in the latest episode just looks kinda off compared to the other WWs.
Has it been 100% confirmed that's the same guy?Was the WW kings face CGI this time? Cause I thought it looked a lot better in season 4:
His face in the latest episode just looks kinda off compared to the other WWs.
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say, yes..it's the same guy (just upgraded visually).
The Janitor
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Yeah I mean the new one has better skin and details but it's just something about the face, it looks fake compared to the other ones which look real and creepy as hell.
The Real Abed
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Yeah, it's Richard Brake, of Batman Begins/Joe Chill fame. The Wikia lists him as guest starring in the episode from S4, "Oathkeeper," from the screenshot on the left. Wikipedia also lists him as being in the two episodes the Night King's in. So I'm gonna say yes, unless of course the showrunners say otherwise.
The Omega Man
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Night King looks improved and better for me in his current form than when he shown last year, my opinion of course.
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lack of noticeable eyelids in the new version of the king makes him look infinitely more menacing.
Agreed. The more inhuman you can make him while still maintaining a vague, decrepit human shell the creepier. More of a spirit inhabiting the the body and using it as it will than a regular undead.
The Omega Man
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Also there is a particular touch I like about him, and that is that they didn't make him swole, in fact he looks rather skinny, when people are designing something "menacing" or intimidating it is very easy to make the character beefy to convey this, I like how this is not the case here. Of course some might say he is a skeleton that's why, but I think it is a smart and very well done design.
Shadow_FFVI
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He hasn't done anything yet, guys!
Unless you hate him because he killed Ygritte, then go on ahead.
I hope the white walkers have a good backstory with an interesting motive. What if they believe they are doing the good will of their god by clearing away the corruption of Westeros?
I can't help but think that there is a game being played that we're not seeing yet. There's the mortal game of thrones, which we've all seen, and then there seems to be a more covert game being played by the gods. The humans and white walkers are being moved around and influenced by different gods. Some of that influence is direct, like Melisandre, and some is more subtle like the old gods in the North pairing up the Starks with dire wolves, or Joaquin working with Arya.
I can't help but think that there is a game being played that we're not seeing yet. There's the mortal game of thrones, which we've all seen, and then there seems to be a more covert game being played by the gods. The humans and white walkers are being moved around and influenced by different gods. Some of that influence is direct, like Melisandre, and some is more subtle like the old gods in the North pairing up the Starks with dire wolves, or Joaquin working with Arya.
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