As far as I know Sony owns 8% of SQEX.eastside49er said:Doesn't Sony own like 20% of Square or did they lose it when Square merged with Enix?
As far as I know Sony owns 8% of SQEX.eastside49er said:Doesn't Sony own like 20% of Square or did they lose it when Square merged with Enix?
Namco was doing fine supporting Sony alone, they certainly didn't need other platforms. Capcom's multiplatform (as in concurrent) development is limited to only 2D fighters mainly. Their big games all still remain console exclusive, if only for a year even. With more online focused games coming, I think Square Enix releases on Xenon is a sure thing.Odnetnin said:? But Namco needed to go multi - SE doesn't and still sells a bazillion. Its not so much multi but having titles worth playing and that attracts the market. Namco has been pretty okay this gen. Not great, not bad. okay. Capcom on the other hand has shown that going MULTI has ruined them in parts (late ports not withstanding)
jarrod said:With more online focused games coming, I think Square Enix releases on Xenon is a sure thing.
It's also a non-voting interest iirc, and Square Enix has the option to buyback at any time in their contract. In fact, I kind of doubt Sony Corp still holds the stock, it was temporary aid after The Spirits Within disaster. Sqaure probably bought it back the following year (with little media coverage).Sen² said:As far as I know Sony owns 8% of SQEX.
jarrod said:Namco was doing fine supporting Sony alone, they certainly didn't need other platforms. Capcom's multiplatform (as in concurrent) development is limited to only 2D fighters mainly. Their big games all still remain console exclusive, if only for a year even. With more online focused games coming, I think Square Enix releases on Xenon is a sure thing.
If Namco, Capcom, Square Enix, Sega Sammy, Bandai and Konami want to compete with EA, UbiSoft, Activision, Atari and THQ, they'll need to start supporting multiplatform development and simultaneous releases. Soul Calibur 2 and Sonic Heroes are a good sign of things to come next gen imo.
Microsoft's already compromised for EA, they'll do the same for Square Enix. They're far more willing to "budge" for the right software support than people let on.duckroll said:That's NEVER going to happen for a very simple reason. MS wants all X-Box/Xenon games on their Live. Square Enix has their own PlayOnline. For that reason and that reason alone, Square Enix online games on the Xenon would be a conflict of interest for both MS and Square Enix and neither party will want to compromise.
jarrod said:It's also a non-voting interest iirc, and Square Enix has the option to buyback at any time in their contract. In fact, I kind of doubt Sony Corp still holds the stock, it was temporary aid after The Spirits Within disaster. Sqaure probably bought it back the following year (with little media coverage).
Johnny Nighttrain said:i'll tell you guys this much, it won't be a franchise, but a whole developer / team that "defects".
; )
I think both Microsoft and Nintendo will see better support from all Japanese 3rd parties next gen. As Johnny Nighttrain implied, larger budgets will warrant more multiplatform R&D to reduce risk and spread cost. It already happened with western development this generation, Japan's just behind the curve (and suffering for it imo).SantaCruZer said:Hey jarrod. Namco and Capcom have been Gamecube's best 3rd party helpers this generation (ToS, Baten Kaitos, RE games, starfox, zelda, mario baseball, viewtiful joe etc). Do you think Nintendo will get better or worse support from them on the Revolution?
At this point, Namco and Capcom seems very Important for Nintendo.
jarrod said:I think both Microsoft and Nintendo will see better support from all Japanese 3rd parties next gen. As Johnny Nighttrain implied, larger budgets will warrant more multiplatform R&D to reduce risk and spread cost. It already happened with western development this generation, Japan's just behind the curve (and suffering for it imo).
Johnny Nighttrain said:mod please delete.
Johnny Nighttrain said:next gen, every 3rd party game will go multiplatform due to rise of development cost. no more 3rd party exclusives.
i'll tell you guys this much, it won't be a franchise, but a whole developer / team that "defects".
; )
1) Nintendo Will Become Cool Again -- Nintendo is going to take a major, major step in shedding its kiddy image and becoming cool. To be fair, it took a major step in 2004 with its TV spots. The company's commercials in 2004 were incredible. I defy you to name another company that served up sweeter TV ads than Nintendo, especially in the last six months of the year. It's such an amazing contrast from the crap it used to serve up (i.e. the Final Fantasy Tactics Advance spot). The new ads make me go, "Wow!" and are quickly followed up by, "That was a Nintendo spot?"
SantaCruZer said:So basicly that means bad news for Sony.
What about Konami support on the Revolution? Konami was totally up Sony's ass this generation. Will it continue, or will they start to support Rev and Xenon?
i can only tell you guys so much man. no need to be a sponge man.Chrono said:Seriously it just shows how people like you dont know anything but just like to tease and pretend to know things. Either tell us what you know (if you know anything ) or shut the hell up.
ThongyDonk said:Simple.
Nintendo.
Make Certain Games for XBox/PS, not main franchise but new franchises.
Gamers like what they play so buy a Rev to play more.!
ThongyDonk said:Simple.
Nintendo.
Make Certain Games for XBox/PS, not main franchise but new franchises.
Gamers like what they play so buy a Rev to play more.!
SomeDude said:If Nintendo goes 3rd party they will most likely end up like Sega.
Doom_Bringer said:Thats an opinion of one guy and one guy alone! Its his prediction of what might happen.
Personally I don't it will happen, when games go multiplatform they lose their prestige and their magic: Would people really care about Halo 2 if it was multiplatform? No, it wouldnt be as big as it is.
Multiplatform works on sports games and racing games but games like Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest need to remain on a single platform.
ThongyDonk said:Simple.
Nintendo.
Make Certain Games for XBox/PS, not main franchise but new franchises.
Gamers like what they play so buy a Rev to play more.!
Also idea for Nintendo, Want the biggest selling game next gen? Pack it in with the console!!
New consoles often result in breakups and new couplings. Longtime Square fans were surprised when the company went to bed with Sony and announced that Final Fantasy would be a PlayStation exclusive. Well, we have a slew of new systems in the works. Though they'll be coming out over the next two years, a big announcement will take place this year, probably at E3 2005. I'm talking enormous -- along the lines of Square taking Final Fantasy back to Nintendo or Rockstar taking Grand Theft Auto to Xbox 2 exclusively.
ThongyDonk said:Simple.
Nintendo.
Make Certain Games for XBox/PS, not main franchise but new franchises.
Gamers like what they play so buy a Rev to play more.!
Also idea for Nintendo, Want the biggest selling game next gen? Pack it in with the console!!
Konami's already restructing (again) thanks to being so bloated and wasteful. We'll definitely see better Xenon and Revolution support from them I think.SantaCruZer said:What about Konami support on the Revolution? Konami was totally up Sony's ass this generation. Will it continue, or will they start to support Rev and Xenon?
I'm guessing...Johnny Nighttrain said:i shit you guys not, there will about 5 big studio's left in japan come 2007-8.
I guess that's why Soul Calibur 2 is Namco's best selling fighter this generation.Doom_Bringer said:Multiplatform works on sports games and racing games but games like Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest need to remain on a single platform.
jarrod said:I guess that's why Soul Calibur 2 is Namco's best selling fighter this generation.![]()
dark10x said:AC4 is a fighter?![]()
jarrod said:I guess that's why Soul Calibur 2 is Namco's best selling fighter this generation.![]()
SolidSnakex said:Clover goes to Nintendo.
Top3 dev in the world.
dark10x said:Clover? They must have created a whole bunch of games that I missed out on or something. What have they released besides Viewtiful Joe?
Doesn't matter, SC2 has outsold AC4 too. It's moved 3.5 million copies (before budget rerelease)... I'm not sure if any other Namco game has done that this generation actually.Doom_Bringer said:oh didn't read his post.
dark10x said:Clover? They must have created a whole bunch of games that I missed out on or something. What have they released besides Viewtiful Joe?
jarrod said:Doesn't matter, SC2 has outsold AC4 too. It's moved 3.5 million copies (before budget rerelease)... I'm not sure if any other Namco game has done that this generation actually.
Pimpwerx said:What incentive is there for a dev to go exclusive with Nintendo? Again, they're in third place and constantly losing marketshare. Been bleeding it since the early 90's.
What pimpwerx said is true, though.Chrono said:uh, Nintendo is one of the most profitable video game companies around dude.
It's pathetic to see these people devote their time to hating Nintendo with a passion and constantly delude themselves with the 'NINTENDO IZ D00M3D' bullshit.