Gamespy's #1 prediction for 2005: Nintendo will become cool again!

Odnetnin said:
? But Namco needed to go multi - SE doesn't and still sells a bazillion. Its not so much multi but having titles worth playing and that attracts the market. Namco has been pretty okay this gen. Not great, not bad. okay. Capcom on the other hand has shown that going MULTI has ruined them in parts (late ports not withstanding)
Namco was doing fine supporting Sony alone, they certainly didn't need other platforms. Capcom's multiplatform (as in concurrent) development is limited to only 2D fighters mainly. Their big games all still remain console exclusive, if only for a year even. With more online focused games coming, I think Square Enix releases on Xenon is a sure thing.

If Namco, Capcom, Square Enix, Sega Sammy, Bandai and Konami want to compete with EA, UbiSoft, Activision, Atari and THQ, they'll need to start supporting multiplatform development and simultaneous releases. Soul Calibur 2 and Sonic Heroes are a good sign of things to come next gen imo.
 
Polyphony *is* Sony, so I doubt that's going to happen.

But then again, Sony's the only console maker to develop games for other consoles (Wipeout) in the last 20 years, so who knows.
 
jarrod said:
With more online focused games coming, I think Square Enix releases on Xenon is a sure thing.

That's NEVER going to happen for a very simple reason. MS wants all X-Box/Xenon games on their Live. Square Enix has their own PlayOnline. For that reason and that reason alone, Square Enix online games on the Xenon would be a conflict of interest for both MS and Square Enix and neither party will want to compromise.
 
Sen² said:
As far as I know Sony owns 8% of SQEX.
It's also a non-voting interest iirc, and Square Enix has the option to buyback at any time in their contract. In fact, I kind of doubt Sony Corp still holds the stock, it was temporary aid after The Spirits Within disaster. Sqaure probably bought it back the following year (with little media coverage).
 
jarrod said:
Namco was doing fine supporting Sony alone, they certainly didn't need other platforms. Capcom's multiplatform (as in concurrent) development is limited to only 2D fighters mainly. Their big games all still remain console exclusive, if only for a year even. With more online focused games coming, I think Square Enix releases on Xenon is a sure thing.

If Namco, Capcom, Square Enix, Sega Sammy, Bandai and Konami want to compete with EA, UbiSoft, Activision, Atari and THQ, they'll need to start supporting multiplatform development and simultaneous releases. Soul Calibur 2 and Sonic Heroes are a good sign of things to come next gen imo.

Hey jarrod. Namco and Capcom have been Gamecube's best 3rd party helpers this generation (ToS, Baten Kaitos, RE games, starfox, zelda, mario baseball, viewtiful joe etc). Do you think Nintendo will get better or worse support from them on the Revolution?

At this point, Namco and Capcom seems very Important for Nintendo.
 
duckroll said:
That's NEVER going to happen for a very simple reason. MS wants all X-Box/Xenon games on their Live. Square Enix has their own PlayOnline. For that reason and that reason alone, Square Enix online games on the Xenon would be a conflict of interest for both MS and Square Enix and neither party will want to compromise.
Microsoft's already compromised for EA, they'll do the same for Square Enix. They're far more willing to "budge" for the right software support than people let on.
 
next gen, every 3rd party game will go multiplatform due to rise of development cost. no more 3rd party exclusives.

i'll tell you guys this much, it won't be a franchise, but a whole developer / team that "defects".

; )
 
jarrod said:
It's also a non-voting interest iirc, and Square Enix has the option to buyback at any time in their contract. In fact, I kind of doubt Sony Corp still holds the stock, it was temporary aid after The Spirits Within disaster. Sqaure probably bought it back the following year (with little media coverage).

I dunno about that... Sony seemed fairly pissed iirc when they heard Square was making games for Nintendo systems.
 
SantaCruZer said:
Hey jarrod. Namco and Capcom have been Gamecube's best 3rd party helpers this generation (ToS, Baten Kaitos, RE games, starfox, zelda, mario baseball, viewtiful joe etc). Do you think Nintendo will get better or worse support from them on the Revolution?

At this point, Namco and Capcom seems very Important for Nintendo.
I think both Microsoft and Nintendo will see better support from all Japanese 3rd parties next gen. As Johnny Nighttrain implied, larger budgets will warrant more multiplatform R&D to reduce risk and spread cost. It already happened with western development this generation, Japan's just behind the curve (and suffering for it imo).
 
jarrod said:
I think both Microsoft and Nintendo will see better support from all Japanese 3rd parties next gen. As Johnny Nighttrain implied, larger budgets will warrant more multiplatform R&D to reduce risk and spread cost. It already happened with western development this generation, Japan's just behind the curve (and suffering for it imo).

So basicly that means bad news for Sony.

What about Konami support on the Revolution? Konami was totally up Sony's ass this generation. Will it continue, or will they start to support Rev and Xenon?
 
Johnny Nighttrain said:
mod please delete.

Johnny Nighttrain said:
next gen, every 3rd party game will go multiplatform due to rise of development cost. no more 3rd party exclusives.

i'll tell you guys this much, it won't be a franchise, but a whole developer / team that "defects".

; )


haha did you just copy and paste your old post into a new one and deleted the first? :o

Seriously it just shows how people like you don’t know anything but just like to tease and pretend to “know things.” Either tell us what you know (if you know anything…) or shut the hell up.
 
SantaCruzer. dude, within 2 years into next gen, 3rd party exclusives will pretty much be extinct. development cost is going to sky rocket next gen.

i shit you guys not, there will about 5 big studio's left in japan come 2007-8.
 
1) Nintendo Will Become Cool Again -- Nintendo is going to take a major, major step in shedding its kiddy image and becoming cool. To be fair, it took a major step in 2004 with its TV spots. The company's commercials in 2004 were incredible. I defy you to name another company that served up sweeter TV ads than Nintendo, especially in the last six months of the year. It's such an amazing contrast from the crap it used to serve up (i.e. the Final Fantasy Tactics Advance spot). The new ads make me go, "Wow!" and are quickly followed up by, "That was a Nintendo spot?"

Say what??? Yeah, like that stupid and totally ineffective Metroid Prime Echoes commercial where we simply have a blonde strutting down an alley followed by a few brief moments of game footage and "...where danger and your skin are only separated by a thin layer of metal" (not verbatim) Yeah, that really is a good way to follow up the amazing Prime trailer from 02.

The only really creative one I can recall is for Pikmin 2 with the funny Pikmin midgets fetching stuff for a guy on the street. The GBA ads are as always totally boring, I swear every single GBA ad is just some stupid slacker guy holding a GBA followed by 2 extremely brief moments of game footage. The exception IIRC was last year's Metroid Zero Mission ad with the gymnast girl wowing a crowd with a Samus style somersault. The ads have gotten a bit better but not by much.

Anyways, start wowing us, Reggie. Work that magic you worked for Viacom when you were at VH1 and created I love the 80s, ect.
 
SantaCruZer said:
So basicly that means bad news for Sony.

What about Konami support on the Revolution? Konami was totally up Sony's ass this generation. Will it continue, or will they start to support Rev and Xenon?

That’s an opinion of one guy and one guy alone! It’s his prediction of what might happen.

Personally I don't it will happen, when games go multiplatform they lose their prestige and their magic: Would people really care about Halo 2 if it was multiplatform? No, it wouldn’t be as big as it is.

Multiplatform works on sports games and racing games but games like Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest need to remain on a single platform.
 
Chrono said:
Seriously it just shows how people like you don’t know anything but just like to tease and pretend to “know things.” Either tell us what you know (if you know anything…) or shut the hell up.
i can only tell you guys so much man. no need to be a sponge man.

whatever though.
 
Simple.

Nintendo.

Make Certain Games for XBox/PS, not main franchise but new franchises.

Gamers like what they play so buy a Rev to play more.!

Also idea for Nintendo, Want the biggest selling game next gen? Pack it in with the console!!
 
ThongyDonk said:
Simple.

Nintendo.

Make Certain Games for XBox/PS, not main franchise but new franchises.

Gamers like what they play so buy a Rev to play more.!

:lol Post of the thread!
 
SomeDude said:
If Nintendo goes 3rd party they will most likely end up like Sega.

Not saying go 3rd party, just make one or two games for PS or Xbox, = More sales = more people liking the games= more people wanting a Rev!!
 
Doom_Bringer said:
That’s an opinion of one guy and one guy alone! It’s his prediction of what might happen.

Personally I don't it will happen, when games go multiplatform they lose their prestige and their magic: Would people really care about Halo 2 if it was multiplatform? No, it wouldn’t be as big as it is.

Multiplatform works on sports games and racing games but games like Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest need to remain on a single platform.

I agree with that, however timed exclusives like GTA and RE4 doesn't take away prestige and magic. It's simoultanous(spelling) releases that do it.
 
ThongyDonk said:
Simple.

Nintendo.

Make Certain Games for XBox/PS, not main franchise but new franchises.

Gamers like what they play so buy a Rev to play more.!

Also idea for Nintendo, Want the biggest selling game next gen? Pack it in with the console!!


Yeah I remember the Super Mario World/ SNES bundle it was so hot!

Would love for Nintendo to pull a similar package together for the Rev launch.


BUT NO NINTENDO GAMES NO XB2 OR PS3!
 
New consoles often result in breakups and new couplings. Longtime Square fans were surprised when the company went to bed with Sony and announced that Final Fantasy would be a PlayStation exclusive. Well, we have a slew of new systems in the works. Though they'll be coming out over the next two years, a big announcement will take place this year, probably at E3 2005. I'm talking enormous -- along the lines of Square taking Final Fantasy back to Nintendo or Rockstar taking Grand Theft Auto to Xbox 2 exclusively.

Now THIS I can't wait to see. My guess is it'll be a major Sony ally departing for Microsoft. However I just can't see any major *Japanese third party* departing for either MS or Nintendo. But I'd like to be proven wrong. Both the Japanese and North American/EU markets need the mainstreamers who are taking the industry down MTV-crapola road shaken up big time, I wanna see them forced to make a tougher buying decision. Variety people, variety.
 
ThongyDonk said:
Simple.

Nintendo.

Make Certain Games for XBox/PS, not main franchise but new franchises.

Gamers like what they play so buy a Rev to play more.!

Also idea for Nintendo, Want the biggest selling game next gen? Pack it in with the console!!

Is it me or your post needs to be decrypted?
 
SantaCruZer said:
What about Konami support on the Revolution? Konami was totally up Sony's ass this generation. Will it continue, or will they start to support Rev and Xenon?
Konami's already restructing (again) thanks to being so bloated and wasteful. We'll definitely see better Xenon and Revolution support from them I think.


Johnny Nighttrain said:
i shit you guys not, there will about 5 big studio's left in japan come 2007-8.
I'm guessing...

01 The Konami Group (Konami, Hudson, Atlus/Takara, Genki, Success, Sting, etc)
02 Bandai Co (+Banpresto)
03 Square Enix Co
04 Sega Sammy Holdings
05 Namco Capcom Corp (hopefully these guys merge before EA buys them)
 
Doom_Bringer said:
Multiplatform works on sports games and racing games but games like Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest need to remain on a single platform.
I guess that's why Soul Calibur 2 is Namco's best selling fighter this generation. ;)
 
jarrod said:
I guess that's why Soul Calibur 2 is Namco's best selling fighter this generation. ;)


Not to mention a true FF game will outsell the PS3 and Xenon versions combined....please this is not even up for discussion.

Nostalgic factor will play a huge role if that happens.
 
SolidSnakex said:
Clover goes to Nintendo.

Clover is the hot studio to get. They already have talent, but now when Mikami and the RE4 core team are leaving for them they will be glowing. Top3 dev in the world.
 
Personally I think this to be a very interesting thread.

I have no idea of what it might be, but for some reason almost everyone is assuming this is a Nintendo-related announcement.

If thet was the case I would personally like for it to be Clover Studios going to Nintendo. I just think it is a really good fit. I do not think it can be sqaure enix personally. They are making too much money with sony ( though I guess I would have said the same on 1995 :/ )
 
dark10x said:
Clover? They must have created a whole bunch of games that I missed out on or something. What have they released besides Viewtiful Joe?

Nothing? (dunno) But these guys are fairly new. What I meant for top3 dev in the world is based on the talent they have aquired. We'll see.
 
Doom_Bringer said:
oh didn't read his post.
Doesn't matter, SC2 has outsold AC4 too. It's moved 3.5 million copies (before budget rerelease)... I'm not sure if any other Namco game has done that this generation actually.
 
dark10x said:
Clover? They must have created a whole bunch of games that I missed out on or something. What have they released besides Viewtiful Joe?


My guess is he's getting a bit carried away with all the excitement :lol
 
If Mikami goes to Clover, there's a whole lot of talent there, and a whole lot of Nintendo loving!!

Anyway i reckon Reggies off to Sony.

Start the destruction from within


REGGIE IS TH3 D3fEct0r
 
jarrod said:
Doesn't matter, SC2 has outsold AC4 too. It's moved 3.5 million copies (before budget rerelease)... I'm not sure if any other Namco game has done that this generation actually.


Did you include the worldwide sales for AC4?

Anyway, Final Fantasy XI was multiplatform (PC & PS2) how much did that sell?
 
I don't think Nintendo can be considered "cool" (where cool means acceptable and desirable by the mainstream) as long as the GameCube is still around. It is far too late to change that console's image.
 
What incentive is there for a dev to go exclusive with Nintendo? Again, they're in third place and constantly losing marketshare. Been bleeding it since the early 90's. Who would go to a platform with such a questionable future? Sounds like a load of bull, and I feel sorry for those who put faith in it. A "major" defection would probably result in "major" bankrupcy. All the big teams in the Sony/MS camp are staying put. It would have to be a team that's getting crowded out of the market by the big fish like Konami, EA, Squeenix, etc. Who would that leave? And why should anyone really care? Namco? LOL! They'd be better off going Xboxing. PEACE.
 
Maybe it's only some particular franchise, like RE going to another system.

I'm trying to figure out the weapon-through-the-head thing, still.
 
Pimpwerx said:
What incentive is there for a dev to go exclusive with Nintendo? Again, they're in third place and constantly losing marketshare. Been bleeding it since the early 90's.

uh, Nintendo is one of the most profitable video game companies around dude.

It's pathetic to see these people devote their time to hating Nintendo with a passion and constantly delude themselves with the 'NINTENDO IZ D00M3D' bullshit. Most of them either are too cheap to buy a gamecube and want Nintendo games on their system, or assholes who hate the fact that others love nintendo games while they don't, or morons who just hate nintendo games and think their genitals will grow bigger if mario is off the market. STFU already. Nintendo isn't going anywhere.
 
Chrono said:
uh, Nintendo is one of the most profitable video game companies around dude.

It's pathetic to see these people devote their time to hating Nintendo with a passion and constantly delude themselves with the 'NINTENDO IZ D00M3D' bullshit.
What pimpwerx said is true, though.
 
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