lughnasadh123
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They could but I'd imagine they want to put that behind to focus solely on pumping out the S2 where they'll see their largest gains. High costs along with good game support hampers that a bit.
Nintendo likely to become "primary partner for third-party game publishers" over next gen, Switch 2 will sell 100 million by 2030 - DFC Intelligence
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LordOcidax
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Yes, but they have the control to do a smooth transition and they secure ~35Million sales without any issue.
Woopah
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Its going to be an important balacing act for them. You want to grow the Switch 2 userbase quite quickly, but also not all the 129 million will move over in the first couple of years. So you want to keep those Switch owners engaged until they are ready to move over. Hence why they still have major Switch games in 2026.
simpatico
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I'd agree. It's able to reach an interesting marker: PC gamers who appreciate the console-itude of it with the new joycon features, and casual phone gamers. My wife is an avid phone gamer. Mostly word games, but she buys every Mario and Mario adjacent title that comes out.
Walls are closing in on Sony. PS5 is banking on PS4 inertia, covid bump and Microsoft having the worst luck of all time with their developer employees. I still standby the notion that they made a lot of good decisions and got let down by very poor quality of work from the developers they hired. No one on GAF would have balked on this list of projects pre-launch.
- Brand new Halo title with ton of money behind it.
- Bethesda making a brand new Elder Scrolls-like IP but it takes place in outer space
- Arkane making an FPS where you hunt vampires in the modern era
- Obsidian making Skyrim New Vegas
- Brand new Gears installment
And the devs shat the bed on each and every one. Not to mention getting fucked by the business side of things where you don't retain your exclusives and aren't allowed to leverage the COD ownership and making the rule that every feature of every game had to be available on Series S. Plus negative inertia from the Xbone.
If Switch 2 can avoid a curse like this, I think they're in good shape. The hardware spec looks good. I'm reliably informed by GAF that slop scalers are actually better than native res, and they're the only console with an Nvidia chip.
Walls are closing in on Sony. PS5 is banking on PS4 inertia, covid bump and Microsoft having the worst luck of all time with their developer employees. I still standby the notion that they made a lot of good decisions and got let down by very poor quality of work from the developers they hired. No one on GAF would have balked on this list of projects pre-launch.
- Brand new Halo title with ton of money behind it.
- Bethesda making a brand new Elder Scrolls-like IP but it takes place in outer space
- Arkane making an FPS where you hunt vampires in the modern era
- Obsidian making Skyrim New Vegas
- Brand new Gears installment
And the devs shat the bed on each and every one. Not to mention getting fucked by the business side of things where you don't retain your exclusives and aren't allowed to leverage the COD ownership and making the rule that every feature of every game had to be available on Series S. Plus negative inertia from the Xbone.
If Switch 2 can avoid a curse like this, I think they're in good shape. The hardware spec looks good. I'm reliably informed by GAF that slop scalers are actually better than native res, and they're the only console with an Nvidia chip.
Soodanim
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Oh, thaaat was your point. I did wonder what on Earth that was about
Deerock71
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I shouldn't post while working.
What big 3rd party games you expect to see on SW2? Any big ones announced already?
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Guardian Monkey
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If Nintendo is the prime 3rd party publisher, then no point in ps6 anytime soon or any other next gen console, lol.
LordOcidax
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Neofire
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Primary in Japan maybe but that is it. They will get a few more ports because of it being a decent leap in power(headheld wise) but to say that devs will just make it the primary platform out of the blue is conjecture at best.
If anything the analyst are low key promoting the switch 2.
If anything the analyst are low key promoting the switch 2.
Deerock71
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It's as if people forget Nintendo sold 152 million and counting Switches WITHOUT Call of Duty or Madden.
That all? are those the ones that are going to make it the "primary partner" for 3rd parties? SW1 already gets EA FC.
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LordOcidax
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Woopah
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Nintendo won't suffer the same issues as Microsoft, but at the same time the walls are not closing in on Sony.
In terms of sales, Madden, FIFA and COD would be thrilled biggest this year, even though Nintendo doesn't have that big an audience for traditional sports games.
I also expect to see Assassin's Creed Shadows, DB Sparking Zero, DQ III. and MGS Delta to be announced this year. And a couple more games from MS but I'm not sure what
There are tons of more big 3rd party games. Are most of them going to Switch2? Even the not so big ones, don't you figure they shouldn't skip it?
Tall order. Is any UE5 game known for SW2?
LordOcidax
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Primary partner...ok
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Gambit2483
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Lol trust me, I know about the shovelware. Just making a point that 3rd party support isn't an issue on Switch.
Neofire
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It sold 152 units because it was a 300 dollar headheld(which now you can get it for dirt cheap these days). I could say the same that people forgot that the original switch is 200-250 cheaper than any other system(even more if you compare it to pc handhelds). People aren't buying a Nintendo platform to play a waterd down Madden and CoD. The switch 2 does not have the price advantage that the original switch had. Which what was the biggest driver of it selling that 152 million units.
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sendit
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This keeps getting repeated. Developers are already looking to adjust for a simultaneous Switch 2 release. This wasn't the case with the Switch 1.Too bad that Sony won't have any competition. It could've been Nintendo if they were to become primary partner for third-party game publishers.
Nintendo is now a direct competition.
LordOcidax
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The Switch Lite is the worse selling version of the console
What are you talking about?
The Switch Lite (the only model that is $200) sold 25.5 million units. That's under a fifth of all Switch systems sold.
Meaning 125 million units were sold at $300 or above.
Except no it was not. At launch, the Switch cost $300, which was the same price as PS4 and Xbox One. In fact, in Holiday 2017, the PS4 Slim was available for $200, to the Switch's $300 price.
The Switch is cheaper than PS5, which launched three and a half years after it ($50 for OLED, $100 for standard), and was priced the same as Series S (standard), or $50 more (OLED).
Why should we? These are boutique products sold to order. They literally do not register for the mass market
52% of all software sales on Switch are third party sales
As mentioned, the original Switch had no price advantage
As mentioned, this is false
Woopah
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How much do you think the PS4 cost in 2017? Hint: it was very close to the Switch.
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The entire point is wrong. Even if you choose to limit the comparison to Switch vs PS5, the price difference at worst is $100, not "$200-$250", no clue where they got that from
ShadyAcshuns
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I shouldn't post while working.
username12
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Wait until they hear about the boycott.
a multicultural team of v
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2030 games designed specifically for 9 gigs of ram total let's fucking goooooooooo
Angry_Megalodon
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Sure, people who buy big OLED tvs will play third party games on SW2 instead of PS or XBOX.
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UltimaKilo
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Do they mean the console Nintendo released after the Switch 2? Possibly.
Deerock71
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I don't have numbers (except weekly Famitsu), but the OLED Switch was the #1 driver of Switch units since it launched, and it was $350 bones. $100 more for a true generational leap (seems like Switch 2 leapfrogged the PS4/Xbox One generation ENTIRELY) isn't asking too much.
The OLED has been the best-selling model for every full year after its introduction. The only year after being introduced where it DIDN'T sell the most was 2021, and that was because it was released in the last quarter of that year to begin with
hemo memo
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Concord also broke all time records for the most rapid descent from hyped release to graveyard, proving even peak performance can't guarantee live-service success.
GTA6 is primarily CPU bound, and Switch 2 has an extremely weak CPU compared to even the Series S
I don't see it
Deerock71
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This is where I believe DLSS and a shit-ton of RAM is going to be the Switch 2's black magic.
Unfortunately while DLSS can help with GPU shortcomings, and RAM certainly tends to be the biggest bottleneck usually, in this case, neither the RAM nor DLSS address CPU weaknesses. Theoretically I can see Rockstar attempting to use the Series S build as a base, turn down resolution and rendering, offload some CPU calculations to the GPU, and use DLSS to patch up the downgraded image quality. So it can be done.
it just requires so much work that I can't see them bothering. GTA4/5 and RDR2, probably, in fact at least 2/3 of those are a near certainty. GTA6, I don't see it.
Neofire
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The switch was 50-70 cheaper than the PS4 in 2017 at 299 with deals around 279. While the PS4 was 349-399. Not to mention the switch only being on the market less than a year and these prices were with the PS4 price cuts.
The PS4 was $299 in March 2017. It cost $199 in Holiday 2017.
Switch cost $299 at launch.
Your numbers are all wrong.
EDIT: OMG, Switch was actually more expensive than PS4 at the time of release lol
Sony Just Gave PS4 A Price Cut
Two PS4 Slim bundles will be available for $250 for a limited time.
www.forbes.com
Almost word for word what some skeptics have been saying about the Switch 2, in fact.
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MacReady13
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Is it cause the Japanese love handhelds? Why has Nintendo been so dominant in Japan whereas Sony has faulted massively in their homeland?
By the way, I can see Switch 2 being a massive success. Not as big as the Switch but still a 100 Million plus seller.
Gambit2483
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Exactly. Japanese lifestyle has almost always favored handhelds and smaller sized home consoles. Also, despite the lack of popularity of some Nintendo IP (Metroid, Zelda, etc.) in Japan compared to US, Japan loves many other Nintendo IP.
Then there's the cost factor where Switch is easily the cheapest option...but yeah, Nintendo has steadily dominated Japan since 2018.
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blacktout
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I'm sure he would have made this thread himself, were he still allowed to.
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