Instead you voted for someone who jeopardizes your children's future education.
So you actually did worse than throwing your vote away.
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Instead you voted for someone who jeopardizes your children's future education.
So you actually did worse than throwing your vote away.
whyamihere
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Oh wow you ARE the worst.
I'm sorry Hillary Clinton hurt your feelings once!
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Poltergust
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1996... considering what was happening between her and Bill at the time it is no wonder she'd not be in the best of moods.
What exactly did she say to you?
I'm from the same town as you and all of our charter schools are fucked up. I used to work for one. Your kids aren't in good hands regardless of which charter you decided with.
Sorry.
At this point I wanna believe that you're just taking the piss and there's more to it than this.
Hey, shoplifter. I understand doing what's best for your kids within the parameters of the current educational system (my son has always gone to public schools, but we've put in the work to make sure he goes to the best ones in Tulsa, instead of his home school). Not sure how you thought Trump could possibly be a better choice over Clinton when it comes to education, though. And I really don't understand how you could stand by that decision post-DeVos. I mean come on, my man.
What does picking a charter school has to do with voting for and supporting Trump?
Dems are not even a monolythic bloc on Charters, as illustrated by Obama.
Trump is ruining the planet (much beyond the country) by de-regulating Industries that are harmful to the environment, de-funding the EPA, breaking international accords, as well as antagonizing foreign govs all over the place and seemingly being very thin skinned and prompt to escalate conflicts, being pro dictatorships that kill women and children and ultimately boost support for international terrorism, and he shows himself as a bully, a profiteering cheater and a self described serial sexual assaulter.
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But you are thinking of your kids? You think so?
Because the person you voted for is an asshole to the rest of the planet, maybe, just throwing it out there. I'm sure Trump would have looked you right in the eye and said how fantastic you are, shook your hand, jerked you towards him suddenly while saying,
"You're one of the smart ones, although I've heard some people say otherwise, but we don't believe them, do we? Dishonest, just like the media."
Which is a huge positive if business is your focus!
There's some easy perspective on the Trump thing. Some of the supporters are anti-establishment and are somehow convinced he's actually an outsider and less establishment. For many it comes down to charisma. They feel like he's the only one being honest and talking straight, even if they don't agree with everything he says. They also strongly believe that immigration is a serious problem.
I can definitely see the allure in some of that, but it requires so much work to rationalize it when asked about it. Many will talk about how Clinton changes her policy frequently, but it's seriously been no less than Trump.
The worst mental gymnastics is the terrorism issue. They're very concerned about terrorist attacks, but most terrorist attacks will occur in highly liberal areas with the most liberal ideas being attacked. It is touching to know more conservative people deeply care about liberals welfare, though.
Columbus native here and this is not at all what this guy is doing even if he is in Columbus City Schools, which had a huge scandal a few years ago for altering records.
The charters here are trash and his kids are not getting a good education.
BravesCountry
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This is fucking hilarious considering we learned that Trump sexually assaulted women, and we saw him insult our nations most famous POW and a disabled person. Did you really put that much stock into whether a politician was rude to you personally instead of how we can see they treat people generally and how their policies will affect people?
LegendofJoe
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I'll be so damn thankful when 2020 rolls around so the country can finally move on from the Trump, Clinton, Sanders debate. It's going to be a long 3 years.
shoplifter
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I don't think I said this but perhaps I may have implied it.
I won't say I'm happy with everything he's done. I wasn't going to be happy with the majority of what either of them would have done. I'm still willing to give him time, and would be even if I hadn't voted for him. Unfortunately politics are toxic as fuck these days.
The vast majority of charters here are indeed trash, which is why I waffled so long on moving my kids. This one is not. Their kindergarten curriculum is more advanced than my oldest's first grade curriculum was at his public. The communication from the school and openness from their teachers in both *what* they're doing in class and how well they are doing is night and day. Is it perfect, no, but it's a fucking far cry from what we were dealing with.
exmachina64
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Who are you people?
It's okay to fuck yourself over as long as the other side gets fucked over also.
RoninChaos
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So the war in iraq and government expansion under bush and Trump wanting to bolster military spending leads to smaller government?
Also, I'm curious about this:
The republicans especially have gone out of their way to legislate women's body's, bathroom laws, whether or not people can use marijuana medicinally, etc. They aren't the party of "Stay out of people's private lives if they aren't harming others" and haven't been for a long time. I think perhaps your notion that things will get smaller under republicans, especially the ones we have now, is misplaced.
Tranqueris
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Don't worry, "fuck you, got mine" people. Trump's still got something special coming for you.
"Oh weird, our children are being poisoned by the air and the water and everything involved with getting treatment for them suddenly got twice as expensive? Who's responsible for this?!"
"Oh weird, our children are being poisoned by the air and the water and everything involved with getting treatment for them suddenly got twice as expensive? Who's responsible for this?!"
For real, people need to grow up, move on, find Odin or something.
This really isn't that weird. If you see that most terrorist attacks take place in liberal areas you could form the opinion that liberal policies allow terrorists to carry out their attacks. I don't agree with this line of thinking BTW.
How About No
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LegendofJoe
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I think that's something we can all agree on, political discourse is in a shameful place. A big shout out to cable news for driving that bus off the cliff.
that's still some hefty mental gymnastics. The point of terrorism is that it's tiny groups of people specifically to get around any policy. They just attack liberal areas because those are typically higher population areas and thus get more publicity for their group & cause.
Anyways, what time does polling close?
Do you think all your hero's are nothing but kind and gentle saints who never hurt a person's feelings? Do you think Trump is not an asshole?
legacyzero
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Political Discourse. The exchange of ideas.
We are so fucked if this is how we appeal to each other now
Do you mind if I ask which school district you're in? Totally get if you don't want to respond, I'm just trying to understand.
shoplifter
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Exactly, I don't personally know anyone that claims they target "liberal" areas. They'd target high population density areas regardless of politics.
whyamihere
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I mean, I have nothing to say to someone who seems to be so grossly incompetent of understanding their own mistake, so. Might as well try to engage the angry people on this board and actually do something and make a change by getting Jon elected.
LostMyNarbles
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I mean...Trump's still going to be around in 2020 and probably going for reelection and Sanders will no doubt be around to influence the next election. We aren't moving past anybody any time soon.
DrForester
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She wasn't nice to me. Better vote for the corrupt racist...
Pai Pai Master
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Who literally assaulted defenseless women. But hey Hillary hurt my feelings.
"Third party" is (understandably) a dirty word on gaf but I have much more respect for someone who sees the two candidates and fairly assesses them as both inadequate for legitimate reasons and either votes third party or abstains altogether than people who make a choice based on complete objective bullshit like "feelings" or someone who buys into the propaganda koolaid to retroactively justify their strictly partisan decision. Neither are particularly good but at least the former is honest with the facts and themselves.
BravesCountry
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Both sides are the same bro have you seen that south park episode? That's why I would have voted for Jill Stein, the hero America deserves.
He's White, wears a suit, and wealthy. If that's not a person to trust I don't know what is.
Seriously though, I've yet to see anybody make a compelling argument why Trump is more trustworthy than Clinton, a woman that has spent decades with Republicans looking under every nook and cranny and dirty laundry trying to sink her. Not too mention Russian hacks.
Trump won't even share his damn taxes.
RPGCrazied
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How could you even think of voting for a guy like that? Its called having empathy and manners.
BravesCountry
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But she was an asshole to me on a random day of her life. Trump is just an asshole to other people, like women and the disabled and POWs. And Muslims. And Mexicans. Ah shit...something something charter schools.
Edit: Sorry, I'm being mean, just strikes a nerve for me.
Exactly. Not even taking into account that if you care about the future of your kids, voting for the party that acts like climate change doesn't exist isn't the way to go and that if Clinton was elected the charter school would still exist.
I disagree. Protest votes are as much about feelings as the former, because it ignores the reality of American politics in favor of personal self-satisfaction.
Shoplifter is the perfect example of why some scoff when others tell someone to just talk to the other side.
Its been pointed out that they voted for someone who goes against everything he wants ( as described in this thread) and their response is to put their fingers in their ear and sing lalala.
To want the best for your kids future and be ok with devos running it says it all.
Its been pointed out that they voted for someone who goes against everything he wants ( as described in this thread) and their response is to put their fingers in their ear and sing lalala.
To want the best for your kids future and be ok with devos running it says it all.
shoplifter
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So you're as much a part of the problem with posts like these. Add something constructive to the conversation instead of focusing on the worst posts.
super-heated plasma
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Don't forget that republicans just voted that its ok to sell our online private information. Smaller government indeed.
legacyzero
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Look... outrage about a person's actions took a back seat to POLICY and something new. You can hate the man all you want, but he got out there, and his message resonated- better or worse. Even if he lied his ass off, which he did, he talked SUBSTANCE. He spoke to the people on issues, told them what he wanted to hear, even if it's wrong, and enough people bought in....fuck man
Says a lot about our country. It fuckin stinks. My own father is the quintessential Trumpster, and I fuckin hate it.
But we don't win goddamn elections by posting a picture of a candidate doin something stupid. How they bragged about their interactions with sexual assault. That shit just DOESNT WORK. Bill FUCKNG Clinton stayed in office after his philandering, Anthony Weiner was dishonest MULTIPLE times, etc etc.
People are selfish and are willing to look past a candidate's flaws as long as their agenda is in order. The same happened for those supporting Hillary. It's just fact.
If we approach the next two elections being awe-struck by how shitty a candidate for President is, fighting with platitudes, cliches, and outrage, we will be looking at Red America for 8 years. And I don't really need to prove it. Because it happened.
Hmm.. you must now have read the wall of text you quoted. Sorry, my post was a WIP
LegendofJoe
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Odin, the hero America deserves.
They'll both be involved, but at least the context of the debate will have changed. And seemingly there will be someone new, other than Hillary, that people will line up behind.
TheCochese
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I'm glad you're putting your children's education above yours then.
That's something.
RoninChaos
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Respectfully, if trust was the measurement you used for your vote... you voted for a guy who was going to court for defrauding students. The same type of students your kids may very well be. Does that bother you at all? Did you even consider the ways this choice of a president could affect your children? You said you're for smaller government but Trump is making moves that will expand the United State's military, he's going to possibly put troops on the ground if he plays chicken with Putin, he put in the worst experienced cabinet of all time, including Betsy DaVos, a woman who cratered education in Michigan. He's dismantling the EPA, and that's kind of a big deal since your kids and my kid will be left cleaning up our mistakes from these decisions. It feels to me that you have these ideals for what you want, but the variables didn't come into play when you voted, particularly if you've always leaned to the right. Trump is a conservative in the same way that Bush was a conservative, he was all for the rhetoric but when he got in office the government expanded greatly under bush. A war that killed some of my friends, that we still haven't paid for, etc. Trump may very well be the same kind of president as bush, only far more inept and lacking any sort of self reflection. If wars get started in the next 15 years over these decisions, your kids could be the ones fighting those wars. There are a lot of things here tied into your choice to vote for Trump that have some very serious, and very harmful effects on your children, sir.
Also, everyone else, stop piling on and belittling this guy. Our discourse is not going to get better by shaming people. Bringing up facts and having a conversation about the consequences of this decision is a better route than "OMFG YOU DUMB FUCK LOOK WHAT YOU DID".
RPGCrazied
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These threads always turn into why Trump sucks. But we need to keep that in mind when elections do come so we can vote these Trump supporters out of office.
I know I will in Texas next year.
And then divide over as half the liberals go for whatever far-left Bernie character emerges and we have a repeat of 2016.
Primary Electric Boogaloo V2 when?
Or he might run independent THE ABSOLUTE MADMAN
BravesCountry
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A ton of people in this thread have discussed the policies. Also Trump was heavily attacked for all of his policy positions, apparently a ton of Americans are ok with proposed muslim bans, building a wall towards our southern neighbors and ignoring climate change.
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