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Ghost of Tsushima - Review Thread
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turtlepowa
Banned
It depends on who made the game.
Gears of War 5 with 84 = Boring, repetetive, uninspired
Ghosts with 84 = Innovative, excellent, The Holy Grail of gaming
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
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Gamerguy84
Member
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
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SkylineRKR
Member
Once this was a big deal.
Nowadays i'm actually worried if Famitsu likes something. But their ratings feel random and influenced by advertisements anyway, so w/e.
GHG
Member
A lot of the time people who leak this stuff aren't actually good at games and are just looking to create a reaction on the Internet.
CrysisFreak
Banned
"nooooo you japanese can't give got a 10 it's cultural appropriation"
"haha fire arrow go brrrrr"
"haha fire arrow go brrrrr"
SkylineRKR
Member
They always do. Leakers apparently can't play for shit.
Slightly unrelated but remember how Polygon played Doom?
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Vroadstar
Member
Dodkrake
Banned
Last of us 2 with 94 = Shit, worst game ever, agenda, sony paid for reviews
Slothbeing1209
Member
2 Reviews i found really insightful.
1 review finished on hard and other review points out some details that i don't see in other reviews.
GymWolf
Gold Member
Yeah i stopped his review when he said the he likes the enemy being brain dead in the stealth so he can feel more badass while slaying them, that is a shitty take if i ever saw one...the game is called ghost of fucking tsushima, the stealth being shit is a huge flaw (for people who care about good stealth).
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GymWolf
Gold Member
I'm losing my head trying to understand what happen on this low res gif...
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
No it isn't. For one, that's not exactly how he couched it and secondly, this whole push for realism is destroying fun gameplay elements. To have a truly great stealth game, reality is NOT something to pursue. In reality, stealthing a whole encampment by yourself would be impossible, so the further they move towards realism, the further from what stealth players want. If we continue down this path ALL games will just end up being pew-pew brain dead crap.
Captain Hero
The Spoiler Soldier
Fuck it ..
I’m gonna play it on my pro , no more waiting for PS5
Tsushima.. here I come
I’m gonna play it on my pro , no more waiting for PS5
Tsushima.. here I come
GymWolf
Gold Member
Every game with a non-shitty combat system shine at higher difficulty, it's like an universal law.
GymWolf
Gold Member
There is a huge difference between enemies so smart that they ruin stealth and brain dead enemies who make the stealth a joke.
Strangely enough a couple of weeks ago people was shitting his pants for the organized and smart ia during stealth in tlou2 vut now having brain dead enemoes with the attention span of a 2 years old is not a problem at all, sorry if a chuckle a little...
And yes, that is exactly what he say, usually enemies being retarded is a flaw but in this game it kinda works because you can be more badass because of that, yeah shitty take is shitty, no doubt, shitty ia during stealth is a flaw,no matter how you feel about it, and a huge flaw if your game is called ghost of tsushima and the whole story arc is the protagonist becoming a ninja, it's literally half of the gameplay loop.
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GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
Where's that info from?
Rean no Kiseki
Banned
Ar¢tos
Member
I just checked the update history. I'm on 1.04, it has notes for all 3 patches before and I've read comments of people yesterday that were on 1.03.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
We've seen that stealth can go wrong in many reviews. In the video you're talking about, he gets caught and has to deal with the enemies 'before' they can alert anyone else. You still clearly have to take your time but it doesn't alert everyone in the encampment if you fail, just a handful of enemies nearby, more if you don't deal with them quickly. That to me sounds exactly what I'm looking for in a stealth game.
And as far as TLOU2 is concerned, I detest the game because of the enemy AI.
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GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
Ah, OK, I didn't think to look at those. Thanks.
edit: Wait a minute ... does it update automatically or do I need to update it manually? I downloaded it yesterday.
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GymWolf
Gold Member
The game has dismemberment tho, i saw arms and heads flying away.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
Downloading the new patch now!
Kadayi
Banned
I'll take your word for it. I didn't see any in the footage I watched (ACG, Skillup & YongYea), just a lot of dudes getting cut through.
GymWolf
Gold Member
That is not the problem, the problem is enemy being blind and deaf and with ultra gamey positioning to favor stealth kills or with a reducted attention span, days gone was kinda the same.
Tlou2 stealth is pretty realistic, if you alert someone they scream so every close enemy is allerted (not every single enemy in the stage, especially in big areas) but if you hide again they don't know where you are and they start searching you again, far more realistic than alerting enemies once and being constantly hunted because you can't hide anymore with the enemy having a fucking radar to find you.
I don't understand how it ruined the game for you when you jist need to run away and hide qgain to regain stealth status...is one of the most fair stealth systems.
I'm not sure of how it works in tsushima, but enemies having the same senses of a 90 years old man is not exactly exciting and like some review said, it suck any tension off.
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turtlepowa
Banned
Big surprise since it's one of the most controversial games ever released.
GymWolf
Gold Member
You don't have to believe me, just look some other footage.
There is a gif a couple of pages ago who show decapitation.
Gediminas
Banned
I liked Yong`s review a lot. No bullshite, no politics, minimal opinion where it should not be.
A lot of facts, insights, tries to talk about every aspect of the game.
Kadayi
Banned
You might have the time to wade though a 17 page thread. I don't.
GymWolf
Gold Member
Dude i was joking, i thought that the loosing my head joke was enough to give it awayThis is all I've got
I'm the master of shitty gif when i try to create one.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
That's not stealth to me and I know for certain other stealth players don't consider that stealth either. If you're spotted, you failed the attempt at stealth. The idea of stealth is to creep through an entire encampment, kill everyone and NEVER be seen. That's the fun of it. That's what makes MGS good. It's the clinical, thoughtful and planned approach that wins the day and makes it all worth. Many stealth players will immediately begin again if they get spotted.
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GymWolf
Gold Member
What about looking in this very page?! There is the gif i was talking about.
TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
I had my doubts with this game.
Shouldn't have watched ACG's review, now I need to play this.
Shouldn't have watched ACG's review, now I need to play this.
SkylineRKR
Member
Plus, I think you can alter almost everything. You can make enemies dumber and also toggle a switch on for full invisibility during prone. I think TLoU2 did some things very right, which is what I liked about that game.
GymWolf
Gold Member
And you can do that in tlou2?!!
Just restart every time they discover you, i used this tactic some time when i was trying to go completely stealth.
I mean, don't you restart the game in mgs5 when they discover you because you want a complete stealth run?? What is the difference with tlou2? Restart and try again, simple.
It is such a non-problem onestly.
And even in mgs5 if you stay hide enough enemy return to their calm state, i really don't see this huge difference...
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CrysisFreak
Banned
Neither Digital Foundry nor NX Gamer have released a framerate analysis yet.
I am losing my patience. Tell me!
I am losing my patience. Tell me!
sobaka770
Banned
The reactions to score depends on expectations.
84 for a 5th game in a franchise that had 90+ heavy hitters is seen as disappointing because the devs are not shaking up the formula started with XboX360 enough to warrant a seal of excellence again.
84 for a new IP which not only borrows but actually improves on AC formula in certain aspects is seen as a pretty good effort and generates positive vibes.
The truth is that both games on their own objectively are roughly at the same "quality" level as reflected by the score - very good but shy of being best-in-class.
Tomeru
Member
TBH, one is a new ip while the other is the 5th iteration in a series. You could factor in fatigue and such and so etc. I would never say that one game score means the same as another games' score (scores being identical too).
Free your mind. I can only show you the door.
GymWolf
Gold Member
Dude what the hell are you talking about?What part of I didn't doubt you in the first place don't you quite understand exactlyGymWolf ? The 'didn't' or the 'doubt' part? Take a leaf from Frozen and let it go.
You said to me that you don't have time to check 17 pages and i said to you that there is a gif with decapitations in this very page...take a leaf from frozen? What the hell does that mean??
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
Naa, I gave up when I realised it wasn't a stealth game. People calling out for friends and dogs ruin the stealth make it impossible. People argue it doesn't but every single time they do, they always talk about the fact you can run and hide again. People seem to be wanting to redefine what stealth is for stealth players for some reason.
It's not a none problem for people who like to play stealth in a game that promotes stealth.
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