What kind of hair is that?!
Yeah judge the final product.Because we are the ones that have to fork over the money for the product so it's fair for us to judge it?
As a consumer I don't care how many people developed a game when you're charging the same price for it. If one $70 AAA game looks worse technically than another $70 AAA game, it's fair to call it out.
You are right, lets see the final product. But, they are marketing what they are marketing and it is fair to judge what we are seeing based on what we are showing. Your proposing a world where no one discusses anything at all until something is actually released. It is fair to judge what we are seeing because that's what they are showing.Yeah judge the final product.
Are you for real? Ghost's isn't going for the realism that AC Shadows is. Your budget and resources make a huge difference in the audio visual department. I don't expect a game made on a fraction of the budget and with a fraction of the developers to have the same technical audio visual quality as something like AC Shadows. Ghost's is a stylised game.
Again let's see the final product.
Just don't buy it. It's simple don't reward them if in your opinion the game isn't visually good enough for you.Honestly...
At this point I have from Thursday and the following week off to play this.
But im really starting to worry with these screenshots, I want my PS5 games to look current gen, this looks like a PS5 port of a PS4 game.
I have a pro so it will look the best its going too at launch, so only way to know for sure.
The access woke gaming press worked very hard through the years to loose all their credibility ... so they should be very proud of this outcomeTomorrow reviews drop:
If good - "Reviewers are all woke. Game is trash."
If bad - "I knew it. Bad game"
There's discussion and then there is Gaf. If your a visuals whore then AC Shadows will be right up your street. Looks spectacular. You don't even need to worry about this game being technically a PS4 game.You are right, lets see the final product. But, they are marketing what they are marketing and it is fair to judge what we are seeing based on what we are showing. Your proposing a world where no one discusses anything at all until something is actually released. It is fair to judge what we are seeing because that's what they are showing.
How are you not getting how online discourse works? If all they are showing are boring gameplay videos and what we see is visual marketing, of course the discourse is going to be about the games visuals. If Sony wanted to change the discourse, they could've hands on demoed the game at Gamescom. When all they do is give us visual marketing, people are going to dissect and poke holes in those visuals. Maybe the game plays amazingly and improves on the rigidness and clunkiness of the first, but we won't know that at this point so theres no point, but we do know how it looks at this point.There's discussion and then there is Gaf. If your a visuals whore then AC Shadows will be right up your street. Looks spectacular. You don't even need to worry about this game being technically a PS4 game.
Graphics are only one aspect of a game. They are not the be end of all when it comes to the final finished product.
Tomorrow reviews drop:
If good - "Reviewers are all woke. Game is trash."
If bad - "I knew it. Bad game"
AC shadow development cost was like around $116m almost 120m. Yotei is 60m almost half. Death stranding 1 was around $100m don't know about DS2 more than that? Spiderman 2 was around $300-315m. I suppose maybe the budget could affect that generational leap too.But I do think the game doesn't have a generational leap like Ac shadows. Same for Death stranding 2, Spiderman 2.
And you were saying?????How are you not getting how online discourse works? If all they are showing are boring gameplay videos and what we see is visual marketing, of course the discourse is going to be about the games visuals. If Sony wanted to change the discourse, they could've hands on demoed the game at Gamescom. When all they do is give us visual marketing, people are going to dissect and poke holes in those visuals. Maybe the game plays amazingly and improves on the rigidness and clunkiness of the first, but we won't know that at this point so theres no point, but we do know how it looks at this point.
Are you an actual moron? If a company releases footage that looks unimpressive and we aren't happy with it, that's fine. The final game being more polished doesn't change the fact that I (we) felt they showed lackluster footage leading up to it.And you were saying?????
Games in development aren't going to look amazing right off the bat. If you actually knew about actual games development you'd know the spit and polish comes right at the end of development.
You should ask yourself that question as it's more apt.Are you an actual moron? If a company releases footage that looks unimpressive and we aren't happy with it, that's fine. The final game being more polished doesn't change the fact that I (we) felt they showed lackluster footage leading up to it.
you think you got one over on me? "IF YuO aCtuAlLy knew aBouT actUAl gAMe deVEloPmEnt."
When people said it was a ps5 title, I can't believe it. It can run easily in a gameboy, with some adjustment.Lighting in their engine seriously needs a major overhaul. It looks okay in certain parts, but there are many sections when the weather or climate changes; it looks barely above the PS3 era graphically.
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All the power to you. I'll enjoy it when it's sub $30. If the game cost half the budget of other $70 AAA games (and to me it still shows) then I'll pay half the price.You should ask yourself that question as it's more apt.
The fact you were convinced it looked a poor game due to the in-developement footage released. It's not exactly rocket science to know the game would look far better when finished due to the game being on PS5 and coming from SP.
But you couldn't help yourself like others shitting on the game and now trumpeting that it's Sony's fault for showing poor in-developement footage.
Meanwhile I'll enjoy my PS4 quality graphics game.
By that logic, all Nintendo games (small teams in underpaid labour market, Japan) with the exception of MP4 cost peanuts to produce and should be sold at sub 20$ price.All the power to you. I'll enjoy it when it's sub $30. If the game cost half the budget of other $70 AAA games (and to me it still shows) then I'll pay half the price.
Not gonna get into a whataboutism console war argument, but that all depends on what is being presented and what the content of the game is. For example we are comparing two triple AAA open world action games that have a lot of similarities.By that logic, all Nintendo games (small teams in underpaid labour market, Japan) with the exception of MP4 cost peanuts to produce and should be sold at sub 20$ price.