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Still remember the 2015? GOTY deliberations when Jeff said RDR was a bad game and Austin challenged him saying 'if that's the hill you wanna die on'. Jeff sounded surprised and was taken aback.

He's incredibly knowledgable to an almost encyclopaedic level and I respect his opinion but I feel that as though, because of that, people are afraid to challenge him.

I love silent hill and he's entitled to his opinion, hell I can understand not liking the gameplay as the controls were poor even for the time, but I think people are exaggerating his dislike for it, he didn't say it was a shit game.

Why do you think Ben was hired? No former intern is standing up to Jeff and challenging his opinions.
 

Fantastapotamus

Wrong about commas, wrong about everything
I can't really remember the last time anybody of the crew seriously challenged the opinions of another crew member except the infamous lt rt incident.

I also support the outcry for more Brad content.
 

cftrooper

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How many times a year does a year of Giantbomb premium go on sale? I think I've finally been tipped over the edge and want to have access to all their content.
 

oti

Banned
I can't really remember the last time anybody of the crew seriously challenged the opinions of another crew member except the infamous lt rt incident.

I also support the outcry for more Brad content.

That's my issue too. Austin's best moment for me was him calling out Brad during the Best Graphics GOTY deliberations. That's something I don't expect the old crew to do. And I was hoping for the new hires to challenge those believes but they really aren't. Which is a shame.

I get that Jeff might be intimidating with his opinion but come on. His taste is all over the place. Having him to explain it a bit more while being challenged is always a great thing.
 

Antiwhippy

the holder of the trombone
Jeff and Brad argues all the time on goty tho.

It's nearly a meme at this point.

Even last year where jeff out of the blue goes hard for hitman brad of all people was his main opponent.
 

Antiwhippy

the holder of the trombone
Yeah but you'd think that it would be Jeff for doom and Brad for hitman.

It was like top 10 anime betrayals on both sides.
 

oti

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Jeff and Brad argues all the time on goty tho.

It's nearly a meme at this point.

Even last year where jeff out of the blue goes hard for hitman brad of all people was his main opponent.

"of all people"

?

You mean the guy who got DOOM on the list for Best Story or something? The guy who dedicated 80% of his UPF time to DOOM? The guy who would literally marry DOOM if he legally could?

Come on, Whippy.
 

Antiwhippy

the holder of the trombone
"of all people"

?

You mean the guy who got DOOM on the list for Best Story or something? The guy who dedicated 80% of his UPF time to DOOM? The guy who would literally marry DOOM if he legally could?

Come on, Whippy.

Yeah but so did jeff.

And he didn't have a half year long series involved of him playing hitman.
 

dhlt25

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I wish Ben would stop making lame jokes every 10 sec and laugh at his own jokes... I should just watch Beast videos exclusively from now on
 
Can't believe Assassin's Creed is the hill Vinny wants to die on. Saying that series doesn't have a single good entry isn't exactly wrong with how weak the gameplay is.
 

Antiwhippy

the holder of the trombone
Can't believe Assassin's Creed is the hill Vinny wants to die on. Saying that series doesn't have a single good entry isn't exactly wrong with how weak the gameplay is.

To be fair Dan said 2 was good.

But otherwise I'd agree that assassin's Creed is the worst modern franchise by a loooooong shot.
 

Megasoum

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Can't believe Assassin's Creed is the hill Vinny wants to die on. Saying that series doesn't have a single good entry isn't exactly wrong with how weak the gameplay is.

Keep in mind that it was against someone saying that MGS is not only the best franchise ever but the best story ever written in fiction....
 

oti

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Can't believe Assassin's Creed is the hill Vinny wants to die on. Saying that series doesn't have a single good entry isn't exactly wrong with how weak the gameplay is.

1 was promising.
2 was good.
Brotherhood was good.
Unity had a fun coop (which is cheating, everything's more fun in coop).

That series desperately needed a reboot. Origins looks promising enough. What I absolutely hate though is that dumb hawk drone. It's sooooooooooooooo dumb. Not every game needs a drone, Ubisoft!
 

Antiwhippy

the holder of the trombone
Remember that magical period where halo, assassin's Creed and mass effect basically had the same premise.

Sci Fi writing in games have come a long way.
 

Fantastapotamus

Wrong about commas, wrong about everything
Today I learned that the Switch makes different noises depending on which Button you press three time to unlock it.
That's such a Nintendo thing
 

Megasoum

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The worst opinion about the AC franchise is that 4 was great.... Seriously it has to be one of the most overrated game ever..

I'm sure the fact it was coming off the shit turd of 3 helped it a lot but seriously...

The boat stuff was fun for a while but everything on land was AC3 level of shit. Full of insta-fail stealth sections and countless escort missions....
 
To be fair Dan said 2 was good.

But otherwise I'd agree that assassin's Creed is the worst modern franchise by a loooooong shot.
2 could be amazing for all I know, but I don't think thinking that series is bad should be controversial. Even if 4 is good a few hours in, it's still full of stupid cinematic walking at the beginning. I'm not necessarily saying the series is bad, same way I don't think something like Gravity Rush is bad, but I could see how someone thinks it is.

Games criticism is easily the weakest part of BeastCast, because they just don't do it often and they they're just not good at criticizing games or responding to someone criticizing games.

Keep in mind that it was against someone saying that MGS is not only the best franchise ever but the best story ever written in fiction....
Lmao just at that part. Good sarcasm.
 

Antiwhippy

the holder of the trombone
I found it funny how vinny immediately went against halo to defend AC though.

And then found out that Dan doesn't really care about it either.
 

xuchu

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I found it funny how vinny immediately went against halo to defend AC though.

And then found out that Dan doesn't really care about it either.

Need to hit MGS story hard to get to Dan. Then again, AC is bit weird series for Vinny to be defending so much. Didn't know he was so into it. Must've read all the lore books or something back in the day like he did with witcher or something.
 

danm999

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Vinny is right about Halo's lore though.

Making it about chosen ones and prophecies four entries into an established setting is maybe the biggest unforced error I've ever seen.

Assassin's Creed had to do bullshit from jump.
 

Hindl

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Eh. Can't say I missed that much during that time. I love Lost Odyssey though.

Well 2017 has one of the strongest game lineups in years, perhaps ever, and that's largely due to Japan returning to form. BotW, Nier, RE 7, Persona, Nioh, Yakuza, Tekken 7, hopefully Mario and Splatoon 2, etc. So imagine if Japan was on their shit back then
 

Tubobutts

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I wish Assassin's Creed could have just been a historically based game rather than having a dumb sci fi conceit and then Ancient Aliens
 
I would like to see Dan explain what Revolver Ocelot's motivations are in each MGS game, and then also explain how those motivations aren't contradictory with each other or with his actions
 
Remember that magical period where halo, assassin's Creed and mass effect basically had the same premise.

Sci Fi writing in games have come a long way.

Has it gotten better though?

Halo is now about Master Chief chasing his waifu.

Assassins Creed kinda stopped having new stories at some point. Now every game is the same assassin origin story in a new setting and the modern say stuff has been paper thin since 4.

And Mass Effect... man.... remember MASS EFFECT? Fuck.


I wish Assassin's Creed could have just been a historically based game rather than having a dumb sci fi conceit and then Ancient Aliens

I just wish they committed to direction for the larger meta story.

These days they still have the modern day / sci fi stuff but you can just tell its only there because it was there before and they havent done anything with it in years.
 

Antiwhippy

the holder of the trombone
Has it gotten better though?

Halo is now about Master Chief chasing his waifu.

Assassins Creed kinda stopped having new stories at some point. Now every game is the same assassin origin story in a new setting and the modern say stuff has been paper thin since 4.

And Mass Effect... man.... remember MASS EFFECT? Fuck.

I meant it more in that there are more interesting sci fi stories from other games now.
 
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