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What is a shit test.
bdizzle said:Verbal shit tests is jumping through hoops. They're testing you for whatever bullshit reason they feel is appropriate. Think about it, would you shit test someone you were interested in?
jon bones said:oh come on, if you go out and try to meet women you will get shit tested. everyone has their own way of using them to increase your appeal. pretending they don't exist is silly.
i agree that there are certain things women will say outright if you don't appeal to them to turn you off but if you're chatting them up, they will (consciously or subconsciously) eventually throw you a curve ball.
and i give girls a hard time too but how they deal with it doesn't necessarily increase/decrease my attraction to them - it's usually just playful teasing.
KingOfKong said:I agree with this.
Women throw out shit tests to make sure you aren't a chode. It's a qualifier for their attention. Come back with a witty, sarcastic, somewhat insulting response and you're golden. My general rule is to treat EVERYTHING as a shit test. Works out pretty good.
border said:Things were going okay with the girl from work that I've asked and posted about several times here. Or at least as great as they could be without being in a solid, committed relationship. Shortly after she gets back from visiting the girl she was dating who moved to Seattle, she tells me that she wants to be exclusive with said girl. Who lives in Seattle. I can't say how rough it is being essentially told "Hey, I'd rather be in a hopeless long distance relationship with someone that's thousands of miles away than explore things with you." To top it off her new girlfriend is very jealous and possessive and always trying to pressure her into a deeper and deeper commitment. I've been dropped in favor of bad guys before.....I guess it's at least a new experience, getting dropped in favor of a bad chick. Due to her age and our work relationship I never tried to pressure her into anything serious, and it feels like quite a burn to see her fold to the massive pressure that this other girl puts on her. As if I'd read the situation completely wrong and should have been pressuring her all the way.
But we work together and are still very friendly and still hang out several nights a week. She'll sleep over at my house if we've both had too much to drink. Ended up kissing and fooling around once or twice, though the time it escalated to removal of clothes and below the belt activity she cut things off and said she felt terrible about it the next day. Her girlfriend was in town for Thanksgiving and it was pretty rough seeing them together.
I feel like our relationship has become pretty unhealthy but I can't really snap out of it. I end up being a girlfriend substitute for her since hers is so far away, she ends up being a girlfriend substitute for me since my girlfriend is nonexistent. Both of us get a taste of what we want but can't have, and my focusing my continued attentions on her only helps her sustain the long distance thing since she has a close-by emotional outlet.
I take it there's no easy way out of this? :lol I feel like I need to get far, far away, and I'm slowly making steps towards it, but nervous about that.
I can honestly say I very rarely run into woman who to try to come at me with some bullshit like that, and when i do i check em and keep it moving. The last few women I've met, I stepped to them, introduced myself, and dropped some jewels in their ear and that was it. In no way did I feel any of em was coming off fake, or trying to test me in anyway.jon bones said:oh come on, if you go out and try to meet women you will get shit tested. everyone has their own way of using them to increase your appeal. pretending they don't exist is silly.
i agree that there are certain things women will say outright if you don't appeal to them to turn you off but if you're chatting them up, they will (consciously or subconsciously) eventually throw you a curve ball.
and i give girls a hard time too but how they deal with it doesn't necessarily increase/decrease my attraction to them - it's usually just playful teasing.
I don't know what to tell y'all, that never happens to me. When I went out with my boys last week I went and stepped to a group of like 6 chicks by myself and brought all of em back to the VIP booth with me. None of them said nothing sideways of try to come off reckless to me. Like I said I very rarely run into that shit with women.KingOfKong said:I agree with this.
Women throw out shit tests to make sure you aren't a chode. It's a qualifier for their attention. Come back with a witty, sarcastic, somewhat insulting response and you're golden. My general rule is to treat EVERYTHING as a shit test. Works out pretty good.
Mike Works said:I don't view her having a boyfriend as really being rejected at all, and I don't think you should either.
As for the every woman ever in the whole world is in a relationship notion, you know that's not true. But you're just venting, that's fine.
Just keep your head and your confidence up and go after the next one!
border said:Things were going okay with the girl from work that I've asked and posted about several times here. Or at least as great as they could be without being in a solid, committed relationship. Shortly after she gets back from visiting the girl she was dating who moved to Seattle, she tells me that she wants to be exclusive with said girl. Who lives in Seattle. I can't say how rough it is being essentially told "Hey, I'd rather be in a hopeless long distance relationship with someone that's thousands of miles away than explore things with you." To top it off her new girlfriend is very jealous and possessive and always trying to pressure her into a deeper and deeper commitment. I've been dropped in favor of bad guys before.....I guess it's at least a new experience, getting dropped in favor of a bad chick. Due to her age and our work relationship I never tried to pressure her into anything serious, and it feels like quite a burn to see her fold to the massive pressure that this other girl puts on her. As if I'd read the situation completely wrong and should have been pressuring her all the way.
But we work together and are still very friendly and still hang out several nights a week. She'll sleep over at my house if we've both had too much to drink. Ended up kissing and fooling around once or twice, though the time it escalated to removal of clothes and below the belt activity she cut things off and said she felt terrible about it the next day. Her girlfriend was in town for Thanksgiving and it was pretty rough seeing them together.
I feel like our relationship has become pretty unhealthy but I can't really snap out of it. I end up being a girlfriend substitute for her since hers is so far away, she ends up being a girlfriend substitute for me since my girlfriend is nonexistent. Both of us get a taste of what we want but can't have, and my focusing my continued attentions on her only helps her sustain the long distance thing since she has a close-by emotional outlet.
I take it there's no easy way out of this? :lol I feel like I need to get far, far away, and I'm slowly making steps towards it, but nervous about that.
Generic said:Apologies for the belated reply.
I know it's not actually true, but I've gone after about 5 girls now, and I found that each and every one of them is taken already. I'm beginning to suspect this isn't merely coincidence. It's probably because all of them were very attractive. I'd really rather not lower the standards in this case, however, so it looks like I'm in it for the long haul.
Is there any way to see if a girl has a boyfriend already without making yourself look desperate and pathetic? Because it's just getting aggravating for me. They just wear tags on their heads saying their taken or something. Were it so simple...
-PXG- said:I just want to add this too:
Don't fall into the "nice guys finish last and only assholes get the girls" syndrome. There are two reasons why a girl chooses the "asshole" over the "nice guy":
1) As mentioned earlier, the "asshole" is confident and knows how to have fun. Even if he's a jerk, he's still able to treat a girl to a good time. He makes her laugh, he makes her smile, takes her out on fun dates or makes her scream at the top of her lungs in the bedroom. Whatever it is, there's something he does that makes her happy, regardless of his douche bag personality. I'm not saying you have to treat a girl like shit to get her to like you. However, just being sweet isn't enough. You can be nice, assertive, dominant ,respectful and treat a girl to a good time. It's about finding the right balance.
2) Some girls treat dating assholes, as if it were a game. In other words, they want to tame their man, and have him under some kind of control. A girl will try to find and use some form leverage (usually her body and/ or sex) so she can bend him to her will. For example, if a guy refuses to take her out on a date, buy her something, let her hang out with her friends, ect, she could threaten not to have sex with him for a week, or whatever. In her mind, if her man wants pussy that bad, he will do what she ways in order to get it. He is then under her control, following her commands, thus being "tamed", if you will. Nice guys on the other hand cannot be tamed, because they are already willing to do what the girl wants. Because of that, all of the work is already done for her. She won't get any thrills or excitement out of controlling her man, because he's already voluntarily bending to her will. Overall, this behavior in a girl is a very passive aggressive form of dominance. It's just one of many ways, that a girl will do to assert herself.
So remember: Be confident, have fun and be true to yourself.
bdizzle said:I can honestly say I very rarely run into woman who to try to come at me with some bullshit like that, and when i do i check em and keep it moving. The last few women I've met, I stepped to them, introduced myself, and dropped some jewels in their ear and that was it. In no way did I feel any of em was coming off fake, or trying to test me in anyway.
Unless we have two totally different definitions of shit test.
Actually, there is:border said:Things were going okay with the girl from work that I've asked and posted about several times here. Or at least as great as they could be without being in a solid, committed relationship. Shortly after she gets back from visiting the girl she was dating who moved to Seattle, she tells me that she wants to be exclusive with said girl. Who lives in Seattle. I can't say how rough it is being essentially told "Hey, I'd rather be in a hopeless long distance relationship with someone that's thousands of miles away than explore things with you." To top it off her new girlfriend is very jealous and possessive and always trying to pressure her into a deeper and deeper commitment. I've been dropped in favor of bad guys before.....I guess it's at least a new experience, getting dropped in favor of a bad chick. Due to her age and our work relationship I never tried to pressure her into anything serious, and it feels like quite a burn to see her fold to the massive pressure that this other girl puts on her. As if I'd read the situation completely wrong and should have been pressuring her all the way.
But we work together and are still very friendly and still hang out several nights a week. She'll sleep over at my house if we've both had too much to drink. Ended up kissing and fooling around once or twice, though the time it escalated to removal of clothes and below the belt activity she cut things off and said she felt terrible about it the next day. Her girlfriend was in town for Thanksgiving and it was pretty rough seeing them together.
I feel like our relationship has become pretty unhealthy but I can't really snap out of it. I end up being a girlfriend substitute for her since hers is so far away, she ends up being a girlfriend substitute for me since my girlfriend is nonexistent. Both of us get a taste of what we want but can't have, and my focusing my continued attentions on her only helps her sustain the long distance thing since she has a close-by emotional outlet.
I take it there's no easy way out of this? :lol I feel like I need to get far, far away, and I'm slowly making steps towards it, but nervous about that.
SRG01 said:So, I unexpectedly saw my saturday-date today, and we danced a bit. There's a definite attraction and we have similar qualities... Kind of shy and awkward, unique, open-minded and intellectual, and definitely flirty! (Yes, I know the first and last qualities are kind of opposite to each other, but I flirt sooooo well sometimes. :lol )
However, I need some way to get out of my first-date slump.
SRG01 said:So, I unexpectedly saw my saturday-date today, and we danced a bit. There's a definite attraction and we have similar qualities... Kind of shy and awkward, unique, open-minded and intellectual, and definitely flirty! (Yes, I know the first and last qualities are kind of opposite to each other, but I flirt sooooo well sometimes. :lol )
However, I need some way to get out of my first-date slump.
See, that doesn't fit me at all.The Shadow said:I emphasized the take home message here.
Here's the deal. If you think of yourself as a "nice guy" or find yourself agreeing with other nice guys who effectively state that they don't have a girlfriend because girls only like jerks, it's not because you're a nice guy. It's because you're a boring, unfunny, push over.
The good news is that it's fixable. The bad news, you need to do your own work because no one is going to knock on your door and rescue you from your situation. If you're a boring push over, that's hard to do because it's easier to blame others instead of actually working for what you want.
No one is perfect. The so called "jerks" that girls seem to like aren't perfect. Neither are the "nice guys". Girls aren't stupid and weren't "duped" into dating the asshole because he has some hypnotic charm on her. There was a reason she decided to date him. The difference is, the positive traits that the jerks have are far more desirable to women than the positive traits that nice guys have. Like I said, that's fixable but admitting that you need work is the biggest step you need to take instead of blaming all women and the "assholes" that steal them. That's just pointing fingers and not being proactive, not taking your own responsibility for your situation.
I'm with you there. I've never felt like I was being "tested" or anything like that. I'm sure women have their ways of selecting winners from losers but I think it's an oversimplification to say they all do it, or that it's so obvious.
siddx said:I'm not sure what you mean. So you went on a date with her already and ran into her today? Or you are going on a date with her on saturday and ran into her today?
What do you mean by your first date slump?
Loki said:Not a request for help or anything, but does anyone else HATE talking to a girl (with the intention of flirting or picking her up) when other people are listening, but aren't part of the conversation? I can't stand it. I have no problem talking to any girl, even if they're in a group (in fact, I prefer talking to a group of girls rather than one), but when people are sort of eavesdropping who aren't part of the conversation/group it annoys me to no end. I become much more inhibited conversationally than I usually am for some reason. I still make convo, but I'm definitely not 100% myself.
If outsiders have no direct effect on the conversation or its outcome, it makes no difference whether they're listening or not. Who cares? Do your thing.Loki said:Not a request for help or anything, but does anyone else HATE talking to a girl (with the intention of flirting or picking her up) when other people are listening, but aren't part of the conversation? I can't stand it. I have no problem talking to any girl, even if they're in a group (in fact, I prefer talking to a group of girls rather than one), but when people are sort of eavesdropping who aren't part of the conversation/group it annoys me to no end. I become much more inhibited conversationally than I usually am for some reason. I still make convo, but I'm definitely not 100% myself.
-PXG- said:If outsiders have no direct effect on the conversation or its outcome, it makes no difference whether they're listening or not.
Loki said:My mind knows this, it's just an irrational annoyance. I guess it's because I dislike nosy people in general, and in this scenario I'm the one being "nosied" on.
-PXG- said:People have ears, so they can't help but hear or listen to what others say in close proximity. So get used to it. Don't let it phase you.
-PXG- said:People have ears, so they can't help but hear or listen to what others say in close proximity. So get used to it. Don't let it phase you.
The same applies to when guys look a girl's tits. Human beings are visually oriented and relatively observant. Guys make quick glances at a girl's chest, especially if there's significant cleavage or she's well endowed. It's a natural (and sometimes pathological/ involuntary) reaction. You can't help it.
I use my peripheral vision, so I never get caught
EDIT
Kind of nervous. I haven't heard from my date, and she's supposed to come over tomorrow. Bitch better not have gotten feet. If she did, oh well, fuck it. Sure, I will be annoyed, but I was looking forward to cooking her ass some good food, and cuddling with her. My date for Sunday though is still green. She's kind of on the clingy side, but no biggie.
Loki said:Keep in mind that I'm not talking about people simply being in close proximity and overhearing stuff, but rather when they're, say, 5-10 feet away but are blatantly and intentionally listening to your conversation.
DualShadow said:Yeah I hate when bitches run away during a date :lol
-PXG- said:Yeah man. This girl is really nice too. We hit it off real quick. I mean, I don't know how I managed to invite her over to my place for our first date. I made it clear that it was a date, and not just some casual/ platonic get together. Seriously, I pulled that from the deepest catacombs of my ass :lol I can't believe she said yes. I just hope that she I hear from her and she shows up.
If not, well, I got you guys, a shit load of booze and games to occupy me 'til Sunday night.
jamesinclair said:Time for a poll!
After a shitty two weeks, this morning I got a call from a company that wants to interview me for a job I'd like.
And then this afternoon a girl messaged me on okcupid and she's not bad looking.
The poll is:
A-This will end in massive disappointment. Happy holidays loser!
B-This will end in massive success. Merry Christmas successful stud!
Pick one!
We should have results in 2 weeks.
jamesinclair said:Time for a poll!
After a shitty two weeks, this morning I got a call from a company that wants to interview me for a job I'd like.
And then this afternoon a girl messaged me on okcupid and she's not bad looking.
The poll is:
A-This will end in massive disappointment. Happy holidays loser!
B-This will end in massive success. Merry Christmas successful stud!
Pick one!
We should have results in 2 weeks.
DualShadow said:I think you missed my joke :lol
On a more serious note I hope it goes well man and make sure you report back
-PXG- said:Oh, I meant cold feet. I just type too fast :lol. You're avatar is also very applicable.
And of course, I will be more than happy to report back in to ya'll.
-PXG- said:I'm upset because she's a pawg/ whooty. I can't resist that shit.
If not, well, I got you guys, a shit load of booze and games to occupy me 'til Sunday night.
SuperAndroid17 said:Does anyone know to make girls jealous/wonder through text and phone calls?
I know it goes like..
Don't answer texts immediately
Don't answer calls , call them 15 mins later or something
What else?
Over the phone, how would I do this?
MiDNiGHTS said:Tell her you're on the line with another girl when she calls and say you'll call her back later.
SRG01 said:I am going on a date with her on Saturday, but I bumped into her yesterday at dance class. There is some attraction, I think.
The problem is that I've been perpertually caught in the first date zone and I need to move things forward One of my main issues is that my most successful "relationships" weren't through dating (ie. it just happened). I'm an incredible flirt and girls tell me that that I'm fun, funny, etc etc, but it never seems to go anywhere :lol
edit: I'm tempted to think that I'm fugly, but girls think I'm cute too :lol Although, my ex did say that I have an intense personality at times.
Alucrid said:I had no clue what the fuck they were until I looked it up. I suppose it makes sense since I'm not an ass man.
No. Tell her you're with another girl and you'll call her back later. You want to end the call immediately after that. If she asks who this girl is you say "a friend - I'll call you later" bang, phone down.SuperAndroid17 said:wouldnt that be a total turnoff? why not a friend or something along the lines of an old friend. Blahhhhh
siddx said:Ah, honestly I think you are fine. You seem to be confident enough. You already interact with this girl. You will be fine. Just take her on the date. Then take her into the forest and make sure to bury the body good and deep.
Wait...
um I mean just be yourself. Seriously, you claim to be a great flirt, she has accepted a date with you, you seem to make her laugh when you are around her. Just go with the flow.
Thats the other thing that should be in big words in the OP
"Just go for it and just go with it" Overthinking anything is the wrong move.
MiDNiGHTS said:I don't see why it can't be a little of both.
SmokeMaxX said:Yo GAF, more help on this chick.
Alright assuming she has a boyfriend, but she's totally digging me. Do I just go for the kiss? I'm not being anyone's cuddle bitch, fuck that.
I think I made a mistake in trying to ultimatum her in picking me over her boyfriend, but whatever I'm moving past that. Anyway, go for the gold or keep trying to get her to break up with her bf?
And to those who think I'm being douchey or whatever for trying this, it's not like I would see her everyday if she just told me to fuck off. I respect her wishes and she seems to be feelin' me.
Cool beans yo.jamesinclair said:Youre an asshole