Given Nintendo's success, do you think Sony might take note and focus on exclusives again?

Do you think Sony will learn from Nintendo and begin focusing on exclusives again?

  • Yes, I think they'll learn from Nintendo and focus on exclusives

    Votes: 30 24.4%
  • No, Sony is too arrogant/stupid and instead only cares about short term profits

    Votes: 93 75.6%

  • Total voters
    123
I am so gald Nintendo and the Switch consoles are doing so well......... It gives the haters something to aim for. They had no ambition with the Wii U... lol.
 
all i know is mkw annnnnnnd dk nintendos gameplay mercharnics next level blewed me away like totk

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When did Sony quit focusing on exclusives? Hell I'd argue they only focus on one at a time now. We don't even usually hear about the next one until the previous one has their state of play and releases. Seems pretty focused to me.
 
Wasn't there an internal leak suggesting they were canceling PC ports , GT7, Demons Souls, were some of the games they decided not to port over? Hopefully Nintendo inspires them, but as others said in this thread they are making more money than ever this gen.
 
Really hoping next gen solves a lot of the development issues through brute force

Things that need to go…

- Bespoke face/body rigging (just use Metahuman)

- Multiple LOD models (use nanite instead)

- Baked lighting (use RT/PT global illumination instead)
This is the idea.

Things like Nanite also help to add the detail directly in the model, freeing them from having to use traditional tricks to add fake detail like via normal mapping.

And things like Lumen/RTGI (more the future one than the current one) will free them from having to do manually some things or using tricks to draw shadows themselves, doing ambient occlusion for extra shadows in certain spots, different types of reflections and so on.

The next gen is supposed to add a substantial jump in RT and AI. Stuff that combined with some extra horsepower will help with all these things specially when combined with a better quality rescaling, framegen etc. than the current ones.

There are many paradigm changes in the current gen with all these things, which are making devs the way they have been working since mostly they did jumpt from 2D to 3D. All these things need major changes in engines and the way they work, and many tests and adaptation. So pretty likely proper results won't be seen until the next gen.

Wasn't there an internal leak suggesting they were canceling PC ports
Nah, that was just a nonsensical fake. They are doubling down on PC because it's being a very profitable business for them. Not only is helping them to expand their gaming business reaching more people in PC, their PC business is bringing them new users for PS5, which helped them to have right now the biggest active userbase any console brand ever had in gaming history.
 
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No, because:

1) They make more money than ever, so whatever their strategy is, it's working.
2) They don't have the first-party to pull that off. Sony's strategy has always been to be the place where all the third-parties are. And supplement that with their first-party stuff from time to time.
 
My thoughts exactly. When PS6 time comes close enough, they will turn down their PC support and focus on exclusives again - at least until the mid of the next generation.
Sony has said that they will continue to release first party games first on console and PC later down the line. It's not day and date so I don't know why they would turn down PC when they have continuously said they make money from it. Once a publisher or developer goes to PC they never go back. Sales for a first party game is always the strongest in the first year of console if the sales drop tremendously after the year I don't understand why you Sony stans have a problem with it going to PC to generate more sales. The more money Sony makes the more money they can produce games. I do most my gaming on PC but im still getting a PS6 because console is the best place to play sports games and I don't want to wait a year to play exclusives. Sony has an entirely different approach to PC then Microsoft and it seems to be working for them. PC ports are here to stay so you better get use to it.
 
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No, because:

1) They make more money than ever, so whatever their strategy is, it's working.
2) They don't have the first-party to pull that off. Sony's strategy has always been to be the place where all the third-parties are. And supplement that with their first-party stuff from time to time.
3) With this strategy Sony is making more revenue and profit than Nintendo, whose games don't have the very expensive budgets of big AAA games
4) With this strategy they have the biggest active userbase ever
5) After having defeated Xbox in the console market, they'll have basically the home console market for them, but after that won't be able to grow the console market a lot more, a market that didn't grow a lot
6) To keep working in over a couple dozen big AAAs at the same time in a sustainable way and with big AAAs becoming way more expensive every generation, they need to expand their business beyond their console. Mostly to PC and mobile, markets way bigger than PS and with relatively little overlap.
 
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They can no longer rapidly milk franchises with like they could during the PS1 - PS3 era. We could have been on Astrobot 4 or 5 by now.
 
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No, because:

1) They make more money than ever, so whatever their strategy is, it's working.
2) They don't have the first-party to pull that off. Sony's strategy has always been to be the place where all the third-parties are. And supplement that with their first-party stuff from time to time.

Yes, supplement the "place where all the third arty are" with a handful of exclusive first party stuff.

If they don't have exclusives, they will be the same as PC and Xbox PC.
 
Yes, supplement the "place where all the third arty are" with a handful of exclusive first party stuff.

If they don't have exclusives, they will be the same as PC and Xbox PC.

You act like casuals buy pc's in droves. As long as PlayStation is the cheaper alternative to gaming it won't matter. PlayStation is one the strongest brands in gaming along with Nintendo. They selling consoles and software either way.
 
Sony and Sony fanboys are too fucking arrogants to want change.

Everytime you make a complain about Sony, there is a fanboy to show how money Sony is earning. Thanks, I guess.

I mean, I expect nothing from them. AstroBot is the best PS5 game Sony had offer for me and one of my GOAT in the console, so just the fact most of the PS5 first party games are fucking repetitive, same bs, loads of cutscenes and movie alike, remakes and remasters the entire fucking generation, I can't blame people that are looking for the Nintendo Switch 2 for decent first party games. I not even mention the stupitity of making big IPs like God of War and Spider-man into a fucking GAAS. This is beyond parody.

As for me, as I mention, I'll maintain my PS5 for third party only now and in the future Nintendo Switch 2 will be the main console for first party games. I'll looking for quality exclusives on Nintendo while looking for better performance on third party games on my PS5. No more any dime for Sony first party.
 
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Switch 2 is the fastest selling console in history. Do you think Sony might re-consider their strategy of porting every game?

leaving xbox out of this as it isn't immediately clear to me whether we will even have another xbox, or at least as we know it.

Alternatively - Can they afford to follow Nintendo's lead considering the differences b/w attach rates of exclusive games ?
 
Yes, supplement the "place where all the third arty are" with a handful of exclusive first party stuff.

If they don't have exclusives, they will be the same as PC and Xbox PC.
I can guarantee that people more knowledgeable than you and I at Sony have done market analysis and concluded that they won't make PC-centric players migrate to Playstation. So instead, they sell their shit to PC-centric players and get more money per first-party title made. Otherwise, they wouldn't have done it.
 
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No. I don't think there's enough tangible data to support it. It's a hard sell to the finance guys in meetings. "Keeping Horizon exclusive sells PS5s!" "OK how many?" "Umm well you see..."
Hah I was just thinking this while scrolling down the page and there it is. Exactly this. Yes while I said above they will tweak things depending on how threatened they feel by competition, when they do feel emboldened to multiplat they will be completely blind to the slow IP damage over time that this causes. This long-tail effect is bunch of gobbledygook to those Cali finance dudes but apparently 101 in Kyoto.
 
I don't think the opening poster knows this. But Sony has been very successful as well. This will be their 2nd generation in a row that they sell 100+ million consoles, on top of them already stating that this has been the most profitable gen for them thus far. I didn't vote on the poll, because the correct answer is not even listed.
 
I can guarantee that people more knowledgeable than you and I at Sony have done market analysis and concluded that they won't make PC-centric players migrate to Playstation. So instead, they sell their shit to PC-centric players and get more money per first-party title made. Otherwise, they wouldn't have done it.
They would make, and those "people more knowledgeable" stated this several times.
One of the goal of PC initiative is market penetration in places where PC dominates like 95-99% of non-mobile game market. For them PS and their games simply do not exists - they know almost nothing about them (there are places in the world besides US, Europe and Japan). And PlayStation logo on PC game help raise awareness.
 
They would make, and those "people more knowledgeable" stated this several times.
One of the goal of PC initiative is market penetration in places where PC dominates like 95-99% of non-mobile game market. For them PS and their games simply do not exists - they know almost nothing about them (there are places in the world besides US, Europe and Japan). And PlayStation logo on PC game help raise awareness.
Oh yeah? What are these places exactly?
 
Imho I think they should contine making their AAA(A?) games, but also make lot's of small A(A?) games. 1 in 30 of those little games is bound to be a banger --> new IP
 
without exclusives or specialized hardware/software, ps6 will just be a value pc

sony should sign exclusivity deals with capcom and friends

re4 was made specifically for gamecube hardware (and arguably the controller too); at the time, the dev team said the game wouldnt work on the ps2 unless they did major downgrades--that wasnt exactly right (ps2 version was worse but not night-and-day), but goes to show working with one set of hardware in mind has its benefits.
 
It doesn't matter, odd numbered consoles are the best no matter what.
(Information pulled from some random website, from some random thread, from some user who's uncle works for Sony, maybe)
 
without exclusives or specialized hardware/software, ps6 will just be a value pc

sony should sign exclusivity deals with capcom and friends

re4 was made specifically for gamecube hardware (and arguably the controller too); at the time, the dev team said the game wouldnt work on the ps2 unless they did major downgrades--that wasnt exactly right (ps2 version was worse but not night-and-day), but goes to show working with one set of hardware in mind has its benefits.
Capcom? They were on life support at the beginning of the PS4 generation if it wasn't for them doubling down on multiplats and pc they would cease to exist today. Yea that's not happening from them.
 
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