My thoughts exactly. When PS6 time comes close enough, they will turn down their PC support and focus on exclusives again - at least until the mid of the next generation.If they want to sell the PS6, they will have to.
This is the idea.Really hoping next gen solves a lot of the development issues through brute force
Things that need to go…
- Bespoke face/body rigging (just use Metahuman)
- Multiple LOD models (use nanite instead)
- Baked lighting (use RT/PT global illumination instead)
Nah, that was just a nonsensical fake. They are doubling down on PC because it's being a very profitable business for them. Not only is helping them to expand their gaming business reaching more people in PC, their PC business is bringing them new users for PS5, which helped them to have right now the biggest active userbase any console brand ever had in gaming history.Wasn't there an internal leak suggesting they were canceling PC ports
Sony has said that they will continue to release first party games first on console and PC later down the line. It's not day and date so I don't know why they would turn down PC when they have continuously said they make money from it. Once a publisher or developer goes to PC they never go back. Sales for a first party game is always the strongest in the first year of console if the sales drop tremendously after the year I don't understand why you Sony stans have a problem with it going to PC to generate more sales. The more money Sony makes the more money they can produce games. I do most my gaming on PC but im still getting a PS6 because console is the best place to play sports games and I don't want to wait a year to play exclusives. Sony has an entirely different approach to PC then Microsoft and it seems to be working for them. PC ports are here to stay so you better get use to it.My thoughts exactly. When PS6 time comes close enough, they will turn down their PC support and focus on exclusives again - at least until the mid of the next generation.
3) With this strategy Sony is making more revenue and profit than Nintendo, whose games don't have the very expensive budgets of big AAA gamesNo, because:
1) They make more money than ever, so whatever their strategy is, it's working.
2) They don't have the first-party to pull that off. Sony's strategy has always been to be the place where all the third-parties are. And supplement that with their first-party stuff from time to time.
No, because:
1) They make more money than ever, so whatever their strategy is, it's working.
2) They don't have the first-party to pull that off. Sony's strategy has always been to be the place where all the third-parties are. And supplement that with their first-party stuff from time to time.
Yes, supplement the "place where all the third arty are" with a handful of exclusive first party stuff.
If they don't have exclusives, they will be the same as PC and Xbox PC.
Switch 2 is the fastest selling console in history. Do you think Sony might re-consider their strategy of porting every game?
leaving xbox out of this as it isn't immediately clear to me whether we will even have another xbox, or at least as we know it.
I can guarantee that people more knowledgeable than you and I at Sony have done market analysis and concluded that they won't make PC-centric players migrate to Playstation. So instead, they sell their shit to PC-centric players and get more money per first-party title made. Otherwise, they wouldn't have done it.Yes, supplement the "place where all the third arty are" with a handful of exclusive first party stuff.
If they don't have exclusives, they will be the same as PC and Xbox PC.
Hah I was just thinking this while scrolling down the page and there it is. Exactly this. Yes while I said above they will tweak things depending on how threatened they feel by competition, when they do feel emboldened to multiplat they will be completely blind to the slow IP damage over time that this causes. This long-tail effect is bunch of gobbledygook to those Cali finance dudes but apparently 101 in Kyoto.No. I don't think there's enough tangible data to support it. It's a hard sell to the finance guys in meetings. "Keeping Horizon exclusive sells PS5s!" "OK how many?" "Umm well you see..."
They would make, and those "people more knowledgeable" stated this several times.I can guarantee that people more knowledgeable than you and I at Sony have done market analysis and concluded that they won't make PC-centric players migrate to Playstation. So instead, they sell their shit to PC-centric players and get more money per first-party title made. Otherwise, they wouldn't have done it.
Oh yeah? What are these places exactly?They would make, and those "people more knowledgeable" stated this several times.
One of the goal of PC initiative is market penetration in places where PC dominates like 95-99% of non-mobile game market. For them PS and their games simply do not exists - they know almost nothing about them (there are places in the world besides US, Europe and Japan). And PlayStation logo on PC game help raise awareness.
Capcom? They were on life support at the beginning of the PS4 generation if it wasn't for them doubling down on multiplats and pc they would cease to exist today. Yea that's not happening from them.without exclusives or specialized hardware/software, ps6 will just be a value pc
sony should sign exclusivity deals with capcom and friends
re4 was made specifically for gamecube hardware (and arguably the controller too); at the time, the dev team said the game wouldnt work on the ps2 unless they did major downgrades--that wasnt exactly right (ps2 version was worse but not night-and-day), but goes to show working with one set of hardware in mind has its benefits.
Spot on statement. Sony used to release games I loved. Lately it seems to be all geared towards to same bullshit and I'm over it to be honest.My issue with current Sony is other than Team ASOBI they don't have any first party studio that makes the games I care about.
Listen, I am a bit tired of hearing the "people more knowledgeable" line when suits make decisions that long term destroy their market.I can guarantee that people more knowledgeable than you and I at Sony have done market analysis and concluded that they won't make PC-centric players migrate to Playstation. So instead, they sell their shit to PC-centric players and get more money per first-party title made. Otherwise, they wouldn't have done it.
I just don't think that people at Playstation are more retarded than armchair business experts on online forums. They have, like most other big shitty corpos, an M&A department who will have written dozens of pages about all of this shit to brief Hulst and the CEO about this.Listen, I am a bit tired of hearing the "people more knowledgeable" line when suits make decisions that long term destroy their market.
Spencer was also more knowledgeable that you and me, apparently.
Thing is, the great business of Playstation is not selling first party games. That's icing on the cake, but not the main business. The main business is that for each third party content sold in their ecosystem, they get a 30% cut digitally (12%phisical).
Each microtransaction, each game sold, each in game buy. Without incurring in any cost, now that's printing money.
Add to that the 4 billion or so of the 50m strong PSN+ subscription, and the accessories, and you have the most rentable operations.
Now, it's not that you will attract PC gamers so go search them in the PC. The risk, grave risk, is that without exclusives people may slowly abandon the PS ecosystem. And then you won't have the 30 % cut or the subscriptions. Good luck replacing that with your 4/5 FP games released selling a bit more on other platforms.
Now,it's true they say they are constantly monitoring that, but problem is that when they detect it it will have been happening for some time and will take years to change course.
I've read this statement over and over again, and while it makes some logical sense, things aren't that simple.Now, it's not that you will attract PC gamers so go search them in the PC. The risk, grave risk, is that without exclusives people may slowly abandon the PS ecosystem. And then you won't have the 30 % cut or the subscriptions. Good luck replacing that with your 4/5 FP games released selling a bit more on other platforms.
Nah, they will leave the AI to do that.All Sony has to do is go to China and get cheap Chinese games. Problem solved.
I just don't think that people at Playstation are more retarded than armchair business experts on online forums. They have, like most other big shitty corpos, an M&A department who will have written dozens of pages about all of this shit to brief Hulst and the CEO about this.
This if anything they double down more.You talk as if Sony weren't successful when they are earning more than 30 billion annually and have the most profitable generation in their history. In the end, that's the only thing that matters to companies, why would they change?
The risk, grave risk, is that without exclusives people may slowly abandon the PS ecosystem. And then you won't have the 30 % cut or the subscriptions. Good luck replacing that with your 4/5 FP games released selling a bit more on other platforms.
What's that mean in relation to the topic or my statement about pc gaming? The topic is about Sony stopping ports of their exclusives.Casuals have always bought PlayStations for third party games over first.
It doesn't really affect there bottom line like people think. Sony will always do timed exclusives to benefit their console and short term profits on hardware and software but in the longterm holding their gams to their platform doest really serve them in the long run. Especially at the rate new games are coming out at. Eventually their first party games gets dwarfed with all the third party titles that get released. Astrobot is a great game but it is not a system seller.What's that mean in relation to the topic or my statement about pc gaming? The topic is about Sony stopping ports of their exclusives.
got itIt doesn't really affect there bottom line like people think. Sony will always do timed exclusives to benefit their console and short term profits on hardware and software but in the longterm holding their gams to their platform doest really serve them in the long run. Especially at the rate new games are coming out at. Eventually their first party games gets dwarfed with all the third party titles that get released. Astrobot is a great game but it is not a system seller.
Astrobot and Helldivers 2 are fun games?I'd like Sony to make games that are fun.
They have too many serious, over wrought titles