ChuckeRearmed
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Well, they say bad words to them /s
Well, in the current circumstances it is hard to tell if there won't be people defending ISIS and blaming USA for the explosion.
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Hamas terrorists infiltrated Israel. 1400+ killed, 2400+ wounded, 240+ abducted. Israel declares war
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Well, in the current circumstances it is hard to tell if there won't be people defending ISIS and blaming USA for the explosion.
Nonehxc
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Turkey just signed Sweden accesion into NATO. Just needs the formality of their Parliament saying 'Yessir!' 
RELEASE THE DRAKKAR!
Welcome, viking bros. Your raiding lineage will surely prove bountiful during the coming times.
I know we give Erdogan and his machinations shit time and again, and rightly so, but he has been a MASSIVE stabilizing influence on Turkey, Middle East and Europe by playing both hands and using them to crack skulls. Right now Turkey is probably no.2 at killing Allahu dumbos after USA. He has been decapitating Muslim Brotherhobos and other arab Allahu dumbos since he was in diapers, with gusto and a hard dick, since well, Turkey isn't arabs, it's turks, and that's a BIG difference.
There's nothing that the refined, civilizations crossroads between europe and asia turks hate more than their much more dumb Arab cousins trying to lord over them. Much like Iran Persians hate arabs and would sooner cut their throats, even if sharing the same religion(ok ok, being a different sect of the same religion) rather than give them the hand.
Just to put things into perpective, Erdogan's son-in-law, Selçuk Bayraktar, is the Chief Technology Officer and main engineer of the Bayraktar Drones and the Kizilelma unmaned jet(with ukrainian engines). Together with his bros, they form the Baykar Technology Group. They helped Ukraine quite a bit, even gifting them some Bayraktar TB2s when they were most needed, and rather than taking payment of at least three TB2s which were crowdfunded since 2022, they rather gifted them and asked people to use that money to donate to any of the military or not trusted orgs currently working in/with Ukraine. Bayraktar brothers couldn't have done that if Erdogan didn't allow it, since Bayraktar is regarded as a vital part of Turkey's future, not just for military drones, but unmaned vehicles and other national and highly critical technologies. And it's important because we're talking about the one being trained as Erdogan's succesor, Selçuk Bayraktar
He knows where the money, the future of his country, and the Iron Fist is, and it's not east towards Asia and down the latrine of humankind.
I bet the next thing we hear from Erdogan is he shouting in the Bosphorus cliffs, while the carrier battle groups come and go between the Black Sea and the Mediterranean...
'Cry 'HAVOK!'...and let slip the Leviathans of War.'
RELEASE THE DRAKKAR!
Welcome, viking bros. Your raiding lineage will surely prove bountiful during the coming times.
I know we give Erdogan and his machinations shit time and again, and rightly so, but he has been a MASSIVE stabilizing influence on Turkey, Middle East and Europe by playing both hands and using them to crack skulls. Right now Turkey is probably no.2 at killing Allahu dumbos after USA. He has been decapitating Muslim Brotherhobos and other arab Allahu dumbos since he was in diapers, with gusto and a hard dick, since well, Turkey isn't arabs, it's turks, and that's a BIG difference.
There's nothing that the refined, civilizations crossroads between europe and asia turks hate more than their much more dumb Arab cousins trying to lord over them. Much like Iran Persians hate arabs and would sooner cut their throats, even if sharing the same religion(ok ok, being a different sect of the same religion) rather than give them the hand.
Just to put things into perpective, Erdogan's son-in-law, Selçuk Bayraktar, is the Chief Technology Officer and main engineer of the Bayraktar Drones and the Kizilelma unmaned jet(with ukrainian engines). Together with his bros, they form the Baykar Technology Group. They helped Ukraine quite a bit, even gifting them some Bayraktar TB2s when they were most needed, and rather than taking payment of at least three TB2s which were crowdfunded since 2022, they rather gifted them and asked people to use that money to donate to any of the military or not trusted orgs currently working in/with Ukraine. Bayraktar brothers couldn't have done that if Erdogan didn't allow it, since Bayraktar is regarded as a vital part of Turkey's future, not just for military drones, but unmaned vehicles and other national and highly critical technologies. And it's important because we're talking about the one being trained as Erdogan's succesor, Selçuk Bayraktar
He knows where the money, the future of his country, and the Iron Fist is, and it's not east towards Asia and down the latrine of humankind.
I bet the next thing we hear from Erdogan is he shouting in the Bosphorus cliffs, while the carrier battle groups come and go between the Black Sea and the Mediterranean...
'Cry 'HAVOK!'...and let slip the Leviathans of War.'
Wildebeest
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According to Hamas there is no such thing as a hate attack, only defensive actions.
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
The Fartist
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The Fartist
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Yep, LOL
Happosai
Hold onto your panties
Anyway, back to all the Islamophobia we need to push back against...
The rally was StandWithUs for Israel. I have family in the area that asked to go out but were unable to attend the Skokie event. Close shave...
Go_Ly_Dow
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The footage from London, seeing war memorials desecrated with Palestinian flags, the total hyprocirsy of law enforcement coming down hard on a few young English lads with St George flags (and suggesting they're racist) whilst faciliating calls for jihad, the al queda flag and insane shit they've given a free pass is deeply upsetting. My parents moved here from India in the 70s and I was born here and am sikh, but this is a travesty for this country and it stings.
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demented waffle
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Damn., how I how miss that?
tommib
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Anyway, so about all that Islamophobia gripping the nation...
Kataploom
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I missed that account so much, I thought it moved on
Jinzo Prime
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Fuck that, no one deserves that for standing up for their people and religion. I know down here you would defiantly get shot for doing that to somebody.
Dynasty8
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LordOfChaos
Member
Still out there lying despite all evidence. The US needs to dump these people immediately.
Madflavor
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"Dude you literally know I'm Jewish."
Does she seriously not realize that's even worse? So she's a terrorist supporter AND a traitor to her people.
I don't see any guns, the police will sometimes arrest people for their own safety just to get them out of there,
need better evidence than text in front of a video that shows nothing
Jinzo Prime
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I looked further into it, apparently, shots were fired into the air at some point, no evidence at this time it was that guy, but dead minimum there are no reports of anyone shooting toward either crowd at this time.
I'm speechless. That letter is disgusting and I can't believe anyone with a functioning brain would be fine with signing such a paper.
I don't understand why these people always act like people from 'palestine' are victims who have never done anything wrong in their life. Instead of being objective they are extremely selective in their sources and only pick those few that supports their agenda while ignoring anything else.
Now to the document: Why are there some claims without any source? Thats not how you work at an university. Why do they mostly rely on Aljazeera as their source? That source for 'Israel targeted hospitals' still claims it was an israeli airstrike that killed 500 civilians. They claim Israel used white phosporus on civilians even though that has been debunked. Without giving any evidence they claim Israel is bombing caravans trying to evacuate to the southern part of Gaza.
Them complaining about the increasing violence on muslims / palestinians feels like a joke. Yes, the death of the six year old american palestinian boy is very tragic and should be condemned. But why isnt there a single word about what is happening to the jewish population worldwide outside of Israel? Don't they see that pretty much every pro-israel gathering is extremely peaceful, while a lot of the pro-palestine protests are on the hostile side?
That whole letter reads like jews are not even worth mentioning. What about the events from October 7th? Hamas commited some of the worst atrocities you could ever imagine and they dont mention a single thing? Thats the whole reason why this shit started? What was Israel supposed to do? And why isnt there any mention of the hostages? Is an israeli life worth nothing?
They are calling Israels actions a genocide / ethnic cleansing. But by definition that is actually what Hamas was doing on October 7th. Israel clearly wasnt the aggressor in this war! I honestly dont understand their thought process..
All these people signing this should be 'forced' watching the exclusive footage some press was able to watch today. And afterwards they should volunteer living in a kibbutz near the Gazan boarder. And then ask them if they are okay living next to a 'free Palestine'.
oh, turns out that was Hamas too
oh did some more digging the guy being led away in cuffs is on the Palestinian side, and was the one attacking the guy in the first video, doesn't provide any insight on any guns or anything but the person that made the video clearly not interested in an accurate description of events.
LordOfChaos
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This is the turd factory Piers Morgan just interviewed right? Mr Hijab in the glasses at the end?
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LordOfChaos
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Ah more instant karma here in the North. Now you guys do Rashida and Ilhan.
supernova8
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It's probably easier said than done but yeah I agree they should (I even suggested that a few dozen pages back in this thread)
StreetsofBeige
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Because a lot of people in life will always support the group perceived as poorer.
It's not even about Palestine vs Israel.
Replace the combatants with Group A vs Group B. Poor dumb Group A does something stupid starting a fight with richer and well to do Group B. Group B responds back.
End result? The pity brigade supports Group A because end of the day, their view is they are allowed to do it because they are poorer and that richer Group B should act more mature and absorb the punch. Instead of calling out Group A for being dumbasses, they shut their mouths trying to get everyone to focus on Group B as the bad guy.
It's a weird mentality to have because you'd think in life the violent group (Hamas going rogue killing 1000+ civilians) would be a slam dunk to be labeled as evil doers who started it. But for some people the responders are the evil ones. Crazy.
I remember way back in these kinds of threads talking about mentalities that someone said humans werent designed to suddenly get into the modern age and talk and understand shit load of information and people. I think he's right. For some people it's information overload and they go nuts not thinking things through. They just impulsively do shit without thinking. It's like Bart Simpson in that one episode (I forget which) where Lisa is chill and Bart is going apeshit.... "overload, pleasure overload!" because I think school was cancelled that day.
Another way to think of it is like sports. A game is on. Or it's playoff time. Fans of either team will obviously cheer for one of the teams. What do the rest of the casual fans do if they dont have a fav team or their team is knocked out aleady? Lots of them root for the underdog team. The reason you get a lot of this poor guy/underdog team mentality is because the thinking is they are unjustly beaten down (which might not be true) and rooting for the underdog is like some personal victory because their lives are currently lousy. If the small guy wins one (even if they are assholes), they feel better because it's like a personal win David vs Goliath even though the event might have nothing to do with them personally. and oddly, it's not even a true David vs Goliath story because in this case David is the asshole starting a fight with a giant by raiding his cave for no good reason.
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Faust
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Good Riddance.
StreetsofBeige
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Good. I remember reading about her. And she tried to backtrack a bit later. Looks like they didnt give a shit and got rid of her. Thats the way it should be done. o different than being a troublemaking bigot at work sending a mass email for laughs. Do something dumb, there are no warnings.
Ontario MPP Sarah Jama censured and removed from NDP caucus over Israel-Gaza comments
Hamilton-Centre MPP Sarah Jama has been censured over her comments about the Israel-Gaza war on the same day that she was removed from the Ontario NDP caucus.
www.cp24.com
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Salty Hippo
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It's lowkey amazing how even with the removal they still tiptoe around it with their wording, and some are even against it, as if they weren't dealing with a literal nazi here. Imagine someone in the Nuremberg trials saying some shit like "we really tried to work with Mr. Auschwitz there but he unfortunately undermined our team and our efforts, it's a real shame".
Of course she's a nobody in comparison but it doesn't take a genius to know that anyone who is condemning Israel's retaliation whilst basically ignoring what happened on 10/7, like the members of the SQUAD, felt pretty cozy inside about what Hamas did and should probably be treated like the terrorist apologists they are.
miss you norm.
Dirk Benedict
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Associated Press style guidelines for the Israel-Gaza war. They prohibit describing Hamas as terrorists except in direct quotes, claiming that it is a politicized term.
AP Stylebook Online Topical Guides
The AP Stylebook provides these guides on writing style and guidance for major events in the news.www.apstylebook.com
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Israel-Hamas Topical Guide
Terms, background and guidance related to the Israel-Hamas war, compiled from Associated Press coverage, AP experts and the AP Stylebook. Newsrooms and organizations outside the AP might make decisions that differ from the AP's specific recommendations.
See full AP coverage for updates and more background, context and terms.
Hamas militants stormed from the blockaded Gaza Strip into nearby Israeli towns on Oct. 7, which coincided with a major Jewish holiday. The attack, which killed hundreds of civilians, stunned Israel and caught its vaunted military and intelligence apparatus completely off guard.
Israel immediately launched airstrikes on Gaza, destroying entire neighborhoods and killing hundreds of Palestinian civilians in the days that have followed. The war has become the deadliest of five Gaza wars for both sides. At least 199 people, including children, were captured by Hamas and taken into Gaza, according to Israel.
The leader of Hamas' military wing, Mohammed Deif, said in a recorded message that the assault was in response to Israel's 16-year blockade of Gaza; Israeli raids inside West Bank cities over the past year, violence at at the Al-Aqsa Mosque — built on a contested Jerusalem holy site sacred to Jews as the Temple Mount; increased attacks by settlers on Palestinians; and the expansion of Jewish settlements on occupied lands Palestinians claim for a future state.
The Hamas attack came on Simchat Torah, a normally joyous day when Jews complete the annual cycle of reading the Torah scroll. Israel declared war the next day. Previous Israel-Hamas wars were in 2008, 2012, 2014 and 2021.
balance
When approaching the 75-year Israeli-Arab and Israeli-Palestinian conflict, it is important to understand the deep wells of anger, hurt, bitterness and grievance built up over generations among Israelis and Palestinians who have lived with insecurity and conflict their whole lives, and who have seen many attempts at negotiation and mediation fail.
In some ways, the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is the world's most intractable problem.
Words should be chosen carefully to reflect respect for different perspectives on the conflict. Palestinians are divided between more moderate and more radical viewpoints. Similarly, among Israelis, some take a more far-right and ultranationalist approach to Palestinian demands and aspirations, and there are those who would want to achieve a peaceful co-existence.
Avoid stereotyping, discuss nuance, and in broad ways maintain a balanced perspective. When talking about attacks, keep in mind that in a conflict going back so many years, there are often many antecedents.
Israel-Hamas war
The Associated Press is calling the present conflict between Israel and the militant Palestinian group Hamas a war, given the widespread and ongoing nature of military operations in Israel and Gaza.
The decision was made in consideration of the high number of casualties, the mobilization of armies, the organized, cross-border fighting and bombardments, and Israel's declaration of war and announcement that Gaza will be under siege.
For the time being, it can be called the latest war between Israel and Hamas, the latest Israel-Hamas war or simply the Israel-Hamas war if the context makes clear that the reference is not to a previous war.
Do not use terms such as Israel-Palestinian war or Gaza war.
Lowercase the word war. AP capitalizes that word only as part of a formal name, which as of now does not exist.
terrorism
The calculated use of violence, especially against civilians, to create terror to disrupt and demoralize societies for political ends.
The terms terrorism and terrorist have become politicized, and often are applied inconsistently. Because they can be used to label such a wide range of actions and events, and because the debate around them is so intense, detailing what happened is more precise and better serves audiences.
Therefore, the AP is not using the terms for specific actions or groups, other than in direct quotations or when attributed to authorities or others. Instead, we describe specific atrocities, massacres, bombings, assassinations and other such actions.
In the past, the AP had used the terms without attribution sparingly and with great caution.
We continue to use the terms in broad references to terrorism as a threat and anti-terrorism efforts, fear of terror, etc.
militant, militants
AP uses this term to describe Hamas, in keeping with the Webster's New World College Dictionary definition: ready and willing to fight; especially, vigorous or aggressive in supporting or promoting a cause; and Merriam-Webster: aggressively active (as in a cause).
Terms such as Hamas fighters, attackers or combatants are also acceptable depending on the context.
Do not use the term Hamas soldiers or Hamas resistance, other than in direct quotations.
The Israeli army has soldiers. It also can be called the Israeli military. Use its official name, Israel Defense Forces, and the acronym IDF only in direct quotations.
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Imagine a fucking GUIDE for the Truth? God, almighty. I abhor these cretins.
Darkkahn
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I was banned from Era for islamphobia. Because I told them that if you brandish the LGBTQ flag in a muslim country they will mess right up. Because I told them that they can't execute a virgin in sharia, so they'll rape her the night before her execution.
As an ex-muslim (born in Iran) I can tell you that islam is THE religion of terror and violence.
Those who advocate islam have NO CLUE or ANY IDEA as to what islam is.
As an ex-muslim (born in Iran) I can tell you that islam is THE religion of terror and violence.
Those who advocate islam have NO CLUE or ANY IDEA as to what islam is.
Dirk Benedict
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I'm friends with legit people from Iran. You are telling no lies, from what I what I understand of my personal knowledge. They are eager to break free from the Ayatollah. USA should just go for the throat with Israel and anyone else willing to step in and hit Iran. Their people want to be liberated and a innocent people such as Armita Geravand and Masha Amini have to die because that regime are terrible individuals who thrive on control using outdated, savage methods which are also incompatible with today's world. I will boldly state this.
Dirk Benedict
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No. There isn't.
Jinzo Prime
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How fun. Imagine coming home from the store and you got to weave your way though the crowd of people chanting for a Islamic Revolution.
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Madserb2023
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That's because many lefties don't understand religion at all. Because they themselves don't believe it, they project that mentality on to others and think that Muslims for instance don't actually believe in the Quran. This is where the idea of a moderate Muslim comes. Complete Western invention. In the Middle East they would recognize someone as not believing in the Quran as not a Muslim.
supernova8
Banned
Just for a bit of context (not detracting from what she actually said), she's the director of "UK lawyers for Israel", so it's not like she's impartial in any way whatsoever or was ever going to say anything other than what she said in that interview. Basically as useful (or not useful) as interviewing someone from (if it exists) "UK lawyers for Palestine".
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Dice
Pokémon Parentage Conspiracy Theorist
Anyway, back to all the Islamophobia we need to push back against...
Just FYI to anyone unfamiliar with the Chicago area. The fact they were in Skokie is evidence enough that they were out specifically to start shit.
ChuckeRearmed
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Deus Vult. But the hilarious part is that it turned a protest into some kind of a performance
tommib
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Tonight in NYC: People Who Really Haven't Thought This Through
‘A sense of betrayal’: liberal dismay as Muslim-led US city bans Pride flags
Many liberals celebrated when Hamtramck, Michigan, elected a Muslim-majority council in 2015 but a vote to exclude LGBTQ+ flags from city property has soured relations
www.theguardian.com
Dirk Benedict
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Fuck her in the
Tonight in NYC: People Who Really Haven't Thought This Through
Useful Idiots? Can we call them that?
Tonight in NYC: People Who Really Haven't Thought This Through
I don't know what to say, oh wait, I do. I hope they will all die alone, not touched by a human being ever, they don't deserve love.
darkangel-212559
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Tonight in NYC: People Who Really Haven't Thought This Through
Hahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaa
The irony and ignorance on display here is *chiefs kiss*
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