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Hamas terrorists infiltrated Israel. 1400+ killed, 2400+ wounded, 240+ abducted. Israel declares war
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I've compared truth bombs vs actual bombs and let me tell you truth bombs are way more dangerous , they spread Islamophobia whereas regular bombs just kill and maim people
Is her catch phrase "Mazeltov"?
I know nothing about this character so I'm just curious if it is a bag of stereotypes or an actual fully realized character.
Salty Hippo
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Decent statement. Just found a little weird that he focused more on right-wing extremists than "some parts of the political left", when virtually every terrorist supporter you see in the west is unequivocally a far-leftist.
It was decent but somehow I don't feel it's strong enough. I think we might be past the point where even a speech like this can make any real impact.
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Tal Shiar Agent
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I really don't understand where all of this heightened crazy-level pro-Palestine/anti-Israel sentiment is coming from in the US. It almost feels manufactured and it definitely feels disingenuous.
LordOfChaos
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Happosai
Hold onto your panties
Anti-semitism has been in the U.S. mostly hidden (except with groups like Duke's KKK), but certainly there even at the height of WWll. The two: pro-Palestine / anti-Israel / anti-Jew movement has been brewing in American muslim groups even prior to 9/11. The Islam apologists till the 7th never much bother to find our how they really felt about Israel, the Jews and such because, true be known, most have never been to a mosque or read the Quran.
They were indoctrinated as Islam grew into 'victims' post 9/11 that they would be right because this politician condemned retractors as Islamphobes or what have you.
Occupants of Palestine (and A ADiTAR can share with you their revealing never a state history) have always wanted the massacre of the Jews and to overtake all Israel. Not just them alone (occupant Islamic powers in the West strip or Gaza), but nearly every powerful Sharia nation has had a bout with Israel. A small percentage of loser Americans, neo-Nazis, Marxists, American Communist party have long been muslim apologists. They stand behind all these wrong causes as soon as the moment arises and drag 'curious' others in. Not all muslims agree with this but few are trying to stop them.
TL;DR
It was manufactured by envy, hated and sheep who were already losers who wanted to feel special by supporting the enemy as the victim.
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StreetsofBeige
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I said it many times, but loser mentality isn't just an anti-Jew thing where some groups of people hate Jews who do better.
It's holistic.
Someone can be the nicest person with the nicest family who aren't even religious. But because they got a good job, nice house and money in the bank (heck, they can even be doctors saving people), you're always going to have a portion of the population that are deadbeat braindead scummy people who dont like them.
Class strugglers have to hate something to make a point. It's tougher to be publicly hateful of a family in that situation above because most observers will think they are jealous morons. But if you wrap it around a distraction (like Jews are bad because they are middle east oppressors to all Gaza and Arabs, and religious scripture says so) then there is a legitimate blame game to believe it (assuming you can convince enough idiots who do believe).
Muslim/Jew battles often involve religious or historic stories as a basis to butt heads.
But for envy and hatred of something like a well off family in my example, common claims would be things like: "they are greedy", "they rip off people to get where they are" or "they got a good job because they screw over people at work"
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Tal Shiar Agent
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I can see tankies and neonazis identifying with the core authoritarian nature of Islam to a degree, but I don't see actual leftists and proper utopian socialists aligning with it.
I realize news agencies are under pressure to keep eyeballs glued to their network but I think that showing constant images of injured/dead civilians in Gaza also serves as Hamas propaganda. Yeah, you can say it is "news" but you are serving the EXACT interests of a terrorist organization.
Keep in mind that they really didn't show images of the massacre that happened that led to this.
But honestly, I don't care. I don't care what the media shows, about the protests, etc. This is our problem and we'll deal with it and finish it.
Cyberpunkd
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You expect the media to be responsible and have nuanced view on the subject. The raise of 24/7 news channels meant death to quality journalism.
Whoops.
Here's a link:
www.wthr.com
Here's a link:
Woman arrested for driving into building after believing it represented Israel, according to IJCRC
According to the IJCRC, the woman cited seeing a Hebrew Israelite symbol on the door as the reason she drove into the building.
www.wthr.com
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IDKFA
I am Become Bilbo Baggins
A case of the tail wagging the dog.
After migrant parent pressure, Anne Frank daycare center to be renamed - report
The renaming is part of a broader concept that aims to celebrate the diversity of the children attending the daycare center, according to Andreas Brohm, the city's mayor.
www.jpost.com
The idea of changing of name of Frank, who tragically died in a concentration camp at the age of 15, has come from migrant parents, according to the daycare center's director. "It is reported that parents with migrant backgrounds feel uncertain about the name and find it challenging to explain to their children," the report said.
However, the Miteinander eV organization, promoting an open society, disagreed with this decision. They argued that there are effective and age-appropriate educational concepts for teaching children and young people about Frank's life and the historical significance it holds. They emphasized that "renaming the daycare center sends the wrong signal, especially in a time marked by increasing antisemitism."
City officials, on the other hand, remained steadfast in their decision to change the name. According to the report, the renaming is part of a broader concept that aims to celebrate the diversity of the children attending the daycare center, according to Andreas Brohm, the city's mayor.
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They just want to erase history and culture. And they have time for it, they'll do it slowly and surely, and people here might not live to see this, but they will change things and erase the West. They're already affecting the youth.A case of the tail wagging the dog.
After migrant parent pressure, Anne Frank daycare center to be renamed - report
The renaming is part of a broader concept that aims to celebrate the diversity of the children attending the daycare center, according to Andreas Brohm, the city's mayor.
The idea of changing of name of Frank, who tragically died in a concentration camp at the age of 15, has come from migrant parents, according to the daycare center's director. "It is reported that parents with migrant backgrounds feel uncertain about the name and find it challenging to explain to their children," the report said.
However, the Miteinander eV organization, promoting an open society, disagreed with this decision. They argued that there are effective and age-appropriate educational concepts for teaching children and young people about Frank's life and the historical significance it holds. They emphasized that "renaming the daycare center sends the wrong signal, especially in a time marked by increasing antisemitism."
City officials, on the other hand, remained steadfast in their decision to change the name. According to the report, the renaming is part of a broader concept that aims to celebrate the diversity of the children attending the daycare center, according to Andreas Brohm, the city's mayor.
TheDreadBaron
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I don’t know how it is in Germany, but in American schools Anne Frank’s story has always been the way to introduce kids to difficult concepts dealing with genocide and true evil, so the implication that it’s just too challenging to explain is silly. Anne Frank isn’t “diverse” enough to honor her memory so they’re gonna rename it some generic ass “World Explorers” bullshit?! That would be very easy to attack on the basis of promoting colonialism. What a disgrace, never thought I’d see the day.A case of the tail wagging the dog.
After migrant parent pressure, Anne Frank daycare center to be renamed - report
The renaming is part of a broader concept that aims to celebrate the diversity of the children attending the daycare center, according to Andreas Brohm, the city's mayor.
The idea of changing of name of Frank, who tragically died in a concentration camp at the age of 15, has come from migrant parents, according to the daycare center's director. "It is reported that parents with migrant backgrounds feel uncertain about the name and find it challenging to explain to their children," the report said.
However, the Miteinander eV organization, promoting an open society, disagreed with this decision. They argued that there are effective and age-appropriate educational concepts for teaching children and young people about Frank's life and the historical significance it holds. They emphasized that "renaming the daycare center sends the wrong signal, especially in a time marked by increasing antisemitism."
City officials, on the other hand, remained steadfast in their decision to change the name. According to the report, the renaming is part of a broader concept that aims to celebrate the diversity of the children attending the daycare center, according to Andreas Brohm, the city's mayor.
FunkMiller
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FTFY.
ChuckeRearmed
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Oh, it is so hard to explain that killing a Jewish girl was a bad thing. I wonder if parents' background is Muslim...
AND I am constantly being told by some people that there are not many Muslims and thus there is no problems. If with less than 10 percent population it is becoming a problem, imagine what's gonna happen when there are more of them.
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Cyberpunkd
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It's a daycare. They got babies in there. You end childcare / daycare at the age of 3.
FYI I think the change is stupid but who TF got the idea in 1970 to name a childcare after a Jewish girl murdered by Nazis in a concentration camp?
Appropriate names: Tiny Cubs, Tornadoes, World Explorers
Not appropriate names: Anne Frank, ANYTHING TO DO WITH A FUCKING WAR, others
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Insane Metal
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What is happening to the western world? How did we get to this?
This is infuriating. People are absolutely out of their minds. We need to go back in time. Or maybe start over.
This is infuriating. People are absolutely out of their minds. We need to go back in time. Or maybe start over.
TheDreadBaron
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Ok, the word daycare doesn’t imply only kids under three to me but that could be the case in this instance. Are three year olds demanding their parents explain the name of their daycare to them and that’s a real problem? The point of memorializing her is to celebrate the beauty of her life, so it seems appropriate to me.
tommib
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Yesterday I was reading an Israel-Palestine thread in an electronic music forum I used to visit. I was reading posts from 10 years ago and almost everyone was already using the buzzwords of ethnofascist, coloniser, genocidal, apartheid-state to describe Israel as a country that has no right to exist.
This has been decades in the making. And it will only get worse as the war has no end in sight. I really feel sorry for all the Jews around the world. Western society has failed them. Again.
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ChuckeRearmed
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I wonder if they will that much happiness if they were to be sent to Gaza
Well it is a combination of several factors. Politics, increasing population of muslims, tolerating the intolerant, the developed societies not growing fast enough etc. etc. It has happened over the course of history multiple times. First people came after jews, then people will come after those who don't share islamic values etc.
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Bavarian_Sloth
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Our government stands for incompetence, stupidity, left-wing radical ideologies and inability to act.
Nice words, nothing more.
For decades schools and colleges have bred the anti-Israel sentiment, and a lot of the zoomies are 4chan edgyness these days, so its the ultimate horseshoe theory.
LordOfChaos
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Looks like they are moving down the shore, wasn't sure if they needed to close that last side. It seems like it's denser with population than the barren sides
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LordOfChaos
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Our friend Turkey again
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www.reuters.com
Pro-Palestinian crowds try to storm air base housing U.S. troops in Turkey
Turkish police used tear gas and water cannon as hundreds of people at a pro-Palestinian rally on Sunday tried to storm an air base that houses U.S. troops, hours before U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken was due in Ankara for talks on Gaza.
www.reuters.com
kittoo
Cretinously credulous
I restored some of my sanity by reading r/world news, r/Canada etc on reddit. Most comments there are reasonable and in support of Israel and clearly calling anti-semetism. Reddit had earlier suggested some posts from r/fauxmoi (don't know why) and fuck that place. Good to see not all reddit is idiots.
I'm sure the US military servicemembers stuck on this base at least have a full loadout of weapons and ammo at all times, clear lines of evacuation to safe areas should a perimeter breach occur, well defined rules of engagement that allow them to decisively dominate the battlespace should hostile combatants swarm the base, easy access to area denial munitions without having to go through a laborious and far too slow chain of command mostly sitting safe in another country, no indigenous personnel are allowed in who might compromise security, inform on positions, or override secure barriers, and of course every one there is well trained in this very contingency and not spending their time in pointless "cultural and non-violent native pacification" classes.......Our friend Turkey again
Pro-Palestinian crowds try to storm air base housing U.S. troops in Turkey
Turkish police used tear gas and water cannon as hundreds of people at a pro-Palestinian rally on Sunday tried to storm an air base that houses U.S. troops, hours before U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken was due in Ankara for talks on Gaza.
oh sorry, there should have been a /s in there somewhere
Reizo Ryuu
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No, she isn't exactly a well known/popular character, but she has been around for 40 years; I've caught glimpses from issues she's appeared in and she always struck me as a no-nonsense bad bitch with a strong sense of patriotism. Her back story is a bit charged though, as her son was killed when "palestinians" (no specific group like Hamas is mentioned) ambushed a school bus, she then becomes a cop and mossad and can get quite irritated by religious oppression.
Aside from that she's smiley and approachable AFAIK, she reads as a character that was raised in conflict, so some things might seem stereotypical
and she shoots sticky hummus from her fingernails, no?
Reizo Ryuu
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I'm guessing this is a joke because of her name, but no the only real power she has is life force transference, aside from that she's just really strong.
Dural
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Yeah, 20 years ago on Xbox Live I got into a discussion with some people about Israel while playing PGR2. These were Canadians I was playing with and they had very similar views of some of the college age people today. I've never understood it, Israel is this small Jewish country surrounded by Arab countries. Why should they not have the right to exist? All they've ever done is defended themselves, no other country has had to deal with what they have since their inception. Could you imagine what the US would do if Canada or Mexico started shooting rockets across the borders and killing our citizens? This has been happening to Israel for decades. Every one of their neighboring countries has tried to destroy them. It's absolute madness.
I worked for someone for 15 years that claimed to be from Palestine. He grew up in Kuwait and came to the US for college and married an American woman he met here. You could say he is a very moderate Muslim, he goes to the Mosque on some Fridays and somewhat follows the teachings, however, he's a huge gambler. He's also pretty conservative in his views politically. Even with all that his views on Jews and Israel were pretty scary. I don't think he'd support Hamas, but you never know.
What's life force transference. And yeah, I'm joking.
Reizo Ryuu
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She's a mutant and she can give other people her life force so they can heal quickly like her and also develop random powers that she doesn't have, this make her weaker though, so she takes it back when it's no longer needed.
Is hummus a jewish thing? I was thinking more like she tosses bagels of energy to capture foes or exploding matzah balls, throws in random yiddish phrases, her weakness is shellfish or pork, stuff like that.
Though given Superman is a jewish creation and while there are elements of jewish lore in there, the character is definitely lacking any strong jewish traits, so not sure why I would think an Israeli superhero would suddenly feel like no one in comics had ever seen a Jewish person other than on TV
Clearly plenty of folks making comics were jewish themselves or at least very aware of that culture. Still, there is a propensity to lean in on stereotypes when making heroes focused around a specific identity or (from the perspective of the writers) small group.
She's Israeli not just Jewish if you look at her name and history R Reizo Ryuu provided.Is hummus a jewish thing? I was thinking more like she tosses bagels of energy to capture foes or exploding matzah balls, throws in random yiddish phrases, her weakness is shellfish or pork, stuff like that.
Though given Superman is a jewish creation and while there are elements of jewish lore in there, the character is definitely lacking any strong jewish traits, so not sure why I would think an Israeli superhero would suddenly feel like no one in comics had ever seen a Jewish person other than on TV
Clearly plenty of folks making comics were jewish themselves or at least very aware of that culture. Still, there is a propensity to lean in on stereotypes when making heroes focused around a specific identity or (from the perspective of the writers) small group.
Hummus is not really Israeli, but most people associate it with Israel (it's Lebanese, or in that area).
F0rneus
Tears in the rain
That's so fucking evil and cruel. I don't even have the words.
Hamas's butchery in Israel has kickstarted a new pre-Shoah, a silent one where people can and will harass, erase and attack Jews. And happily stand with barbarians that would gleefully rape and torture them to death.
Neo_GAF
Banned
i wonder what people here with migrants in germany/europe.
jews are still considered jews, even though they were considered germans with jewish faith according to encyclopedia from the 19th century.
i think the government should handle people who strongly agree with nazi-ideas harder. the same goes for the people who think they could promote pro-islamist shit in germany.
i saw some stuff from muslim "friends" on instagram who are now chillin with some nazis from my village blabbering how they now become brothers for the one and only reason on this planet.
i really wish they would nuke each other out.
jews are still considered jews, even though they were considered germans with jewish faith according to encyclopedia from the 19th century.
i think the government should handle people who strongly agree with nazi-ideas harder. the same goes for the people who think they could promote pro-islamist shit in germany.
i saw some stuff from muslim "friends" on instagram who are now chillin with some nazis from my village blabbering how they now become brothers for the one and only reason on this planet.
i really wish they would nuke each other out.
Urban
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Hey, its from August and its still to debate and nothing is renamed yet.
Miss Braun who is the mayor of this city already stated that there will be no changes.
The Kindergarten is being called Anne Frank Kita for 40 years now.
Its even in Sachsen-Anhalt aka east Germany
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
In western countries, people have too much freedom to say dumb shit. How this is a-ok with cops is insane.
BUT everyone has to remember that these anti-Jew mobs can grow large and overwhelm cops. Also, they are by far the most volatile group out there possibly doing dumb shit. On the other hand, a big strike by taxi drivers protesting uber years back arent the kind of group that is spewing hate. They are just trying to save their jobs.
Also, in western countries authorities never expected so much hate rhetoric coming out by the 1000s or 10,000s in mobs. Things dont get out of hand like that. Instead you got isolated burglers, drug dealers and 10 people getting killed in school shooting sprees. Not gatherings of 5,000 people spewing hate. Some of the images you see on the net is probably like 100,000 people. No western society is set up to handle that kind of pressure.
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DrKeo
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Does she have anything to do with David Haller, Xavier's Israeli son?
Oh damn, this is not going to play well with woke people. An Israeli character that gives parts of herself to help others, sounds like a PR nightmare for Disney.
Do you know what bagels are called in Israel? American bagels. It's an American Jewish thing, even though the stuff they put inside bagels in Jewish delis is very (Ashkenazi) Jewish. But he bagels them selves are mostly American Jewish.
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Reizo Ryuu
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Nah, but as a mutant she's been involved quite a bit with the x-men/xavier.
Happosai
Hold onto your panties
May be a surprise but not all muslims want to be involved in this and they're going to leave their religion. You won't read it in the news but some have already. Another thing key here is to know they're (muslims) not the only group that's fueling the flame in the West. Like I said: neo-Nazis or communist groups, socialist groups, losers who want to be part of a cause who can't make decisions without someone else's influence...you name it. I'll also state very clearly. Don't be like them. Don't hate the people. I do not hate muslims and would most certainly not treat them the way they've treated Israeli Jews and Jews elsewhere. Keep a clear head to see the problem and solution. There's no denying that of all those I mentioned which influenced the West to stand against Israel and Jews in particular is Islam. Like it, leave it or lump it. That's how it is. So, that's their leading and influence is the main force encouraging the cowardly communists and other dirt to come out against Israel. The solution, IDF's working on that right now and I don't doubt that the American military is doing their part either. Solution is not to sit on their hands but to fight for Israel in justice. Israel (and you can see it) is not acting in a way of fiery vengeance (although they have the right to be). They act from a point of practical military tactic, defense and war which has a goal to remove (by any means) Hamas. Israel isn't targeting every Sharia nation that hates them. Because they're smart, focused and not blinded by religion to negate justice by means of warfare.
This isn't an equal fight historically of religions. Yes, there are religious Jews but how many times did religious Jews wage war for sake of spreading Judaism in the past let's say...700-years? How many nations were concurred by Jews to establish a religious theocracy in the last millennium? You won't find it because it didn't happen.
You go back and read on the myriad attacks on Israeli Jews (we can just say Israel too) by Islamic powers; you'll see who was fighting for the destruction of Israel for their religion. Hint: it wasn't Israel and it wasn't the Jews.
Plenty of 'leftists' don't support this. This isn't party politics. At least not the right or left Americans are familiar with. They may lean one way but I'm seeing both as the problem in this war. That's why I'm not even going there.
Well, we can debate semantics but there's not a great difference in how utopian socialists and a communist are supporting pro-Palestine efforts. Some have shared the videos in this thread already but we've seen Soviet or other communist flags in their marches too.
I tried to scrub to about 4-minutes 20 some seconds in or just move it there yourself. I'm not sharing it here but why not look on some of the American Socialist pages and see what they're defending too. It's all there.
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