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[ADiTAR]

Some levity.

 

[Havoc2049]

Oakland is a shit show these days, so not surprising. Oakland is losing population and businesses are moving out. It's a city in a slow death spin.

 

[Embearded]

I'm inspired.
I think i'll start a local committee here in my area and vote for foreign topics too.

 

[Go_Ly_Dow]

I loathe the MSM in the UK. Just wanted to get that off my chest.

 

[Toots]

Some levity.

It's Seattle's CHAZ garden patch all over again

I guesss you cannot expect much more from people who spent all their formative years thinking in terms of abstract concepts and never on the real life application of those...

 

[Wildebeest]

I loathe the MSM in the UK. Just wanted to get that off my chest.

I mostly just gave up on UK politics and current affairs reporting about the time of Brexit. A plague on all their houses. Nobody even cares to pretend to want to do something productive and useful with power.

 

[Happosai]

Some levity.

They should have put a train horn on the vehicle with the names of anti-Semites. One blast and you'd see more than duct tape falling down.

 

[DragoonKain]

This is the top point of intersectionality where condemning Hamas is racist and what they did on 10/7 is justified because of it. There's no reprogramming of these people. It's sick and I hope they'll find something better to do with their lives.

Society has created a staggering number of narcissists and has perpetuated them by enabling a "reality is whatever you decide it is" culture. So we now have droves of people who are used to just denying obvious truths and realities in all facets of life because it makes them feel better. An inevitable byproduct of years of just allowing people to believe whatever the hell they want without any push back.

 

[FunkMiller]

This is the top point of intersectionality where condemning Hamas is racist and what they did on 10/7 is justified because of it. There's no reprogramming of these people. It's sick and I hope they'll find something better to do with their lives.

This is entirely unsurprising to me. People will happily exist in a state of pure denial over things, if it means they don't have to confront or alter their personal world views, prejudices or self interests. Wars, pandemics, politics, religion, climate... the list goes on and on. People inter themselves so thoroughly, over such a long period of time in a mindset, that nothing can get them out of it. Up to and including reams and reams of evidence.

It truly is the most pathetic thing about modern society, and one day, this entire period of human history will be looked back on with both shame and derision. It's fucking embarrassing to be a part of it, quite frankly.

 

[EviLore]

Oakland is a shit show these days, so not surprising. Oakland is losing population and businesses are moving out. It's a city in slow death spin.

That incident earlier this year of the older guy being beaten nearly to death by a mob in Oakland while everyone else laughed and filmed it was…revealing, about the current state of the city.

Warning, graphic.

Spoiler

 

[ADiTAR]

This has been a very difficult few hours. Hamas gave that family away, then couldn't find them, now they claim they are dead.
This was a cute red-head 10 months old baby, his 4yo brother, and their mother.

I hope my country's leader would grow a pair, and stop this stupid ceasefire and end them.

 

[Dr.Morris79]

That incident earlier this year of the older guy being beaten nearly to death by a mob in Oakland while everyone else laughed and filmed it was…revealing, about the current state of the city.

Warning, graphic.

Spoiler

Jesus christ

 

[Woggleman]

I find it ironic how they throw around the term white supremacist yet actual white supremacists like the ones on Stormfront share very similar views.

 

[DeepEnigma]

I find it ironic how they throw around the term white supremacist yet actual white supremacists like the ones on Stormfront share very similar views.

^--- Not satire.

 

[MrA]

This has been a very difficult few hours. Hamas gave that family away, then couldn't find them, now they claim they are dead.
This was a cute red-head 10 months old baby, his 4yo brother, and their mother.

I hope my country's leader would grow a pair, and stop this stupid ceasefire and end them.

You know at this point I really don't care what happens to any member of hamas or any Palestinians that support them ,

I find it ironic how they throw around the term white supremacist yet actual white supremacists like the ones on Stormfront share very similar views.

Both the far left and far right are miserable failures that are hateful of those that are better and more successful than them

 

[Happosai]

Society has created a staggering number of narcissists and has perpetuated them by enabling a "reality is whatever you decide it is" culture. So we now have droves of people who are used to just denying obvious truths and realities in all facets of life because it makes them feel better. An inevitable byproduct of years of just allowing people to believe whatever the hell they want without any push back.

Collapse of the Western countries to forced 'acceptance' and the course of change to socialism (only tipping onward toward communism). I started noticing socialism becoming common place in U.S. around the end of the 2000s but it wasn't half as loud as it is now. That's where that whole 'reality is whatever you decide it is' comes from, pure social Marxism and the greatest powers / leaders did nothing to stop it. On the contrary, they invited it in with open arms. Anyone here who grew up in the 70s, 80s or 90s knows that the U.S., England or other powerful Western nations were not like this. This is also the reason why terrorists are now victims. Back in 2001 after the 9/11 terrorist attacks, the majority of Americans still saw this as a pure act of evil and thus condemned it. How do you suppose people would react to a large terrorist attack like that in the U.S. today? I guarantee it wouldn't be the same pushback against terrorism we saw then.

This has been a very difficult few hours. Hamas gave that family away, then couldn't find them, now they claim they are dead.
This was a cute red-head 10 months old baby, his 4yo brother, and their mother.

I hope my country's leader would grow a pair, and stop this stupid ceasefire and end them.

Well, I'll agree with you there. I don't think that Israel wants this though. Ceasefire was becoming a global mantra and I don't think anyone in Israel really wanted this as an option to regain hostages. My understanding (or correct me if I'm wrong) was to eliminate all leading Hamas targets and for the IDF to rescue the hostages which weren't lost or already dead. It's great to see hostages returned but you also have to consider Hamas taking their time with this to plan for another attack. While the left hand gives back hostages (very few at that), the right hand is doing what they do with those billions sent in from the West for 'relief'.

 

[Thaedolus]

Both the far left and far right are miserable failures that are hateful of those that are better and more successful than them

In other words: populism. Everything that’s wrong with your life is someone else’s fault

 

[ChuckeRearmed]

The goal of ceasefire is basically for Hamas to stall for the time, for example, not only to replenish some resource but also to allow "pro-Hamas" and "anti-Israel" voices to become louder in hope to apply more pressure on Israel (and USA).

Hamas 100% knows that Israel want to erase them once and for all and Hamas does not care about their people either. A lot of palestinians will happily join them anyway. The cult of death.

 

[NickFire]

That incident earlier this year of the older guy being beaten nearly to death by a mob in Oakland while everyone else laughed and filmed it was…revealing, about the current state of the city.

Warning, graphic.

Spoiler

Our truth. Important conversations were started. Voices that need to be heard. BLAH BLAH BLAH.

I know this is not a US specific thread. But my God our country has lost its way and the devil seems to be the mayor and city council in way too many cities.

 

[Dr.Guru of Peru]

Background check should be mandatory prior to entry of any country. If an embassy sees it, they flat-out reject the visa, passport, green card or what have you. I'm a U.S. citizen who lives abroad in Mexico. The locals here can't simply travel back and forth to the U.S. (FYI -- it's not Mexican majority crossing the border illegally into the U.S., mosty Haitians and people from Central America who illegally crossed to Mexico first from Chiapas and worked their way North).

The pre-requisites for non-U.S. residents or citizens from Mexico to enter the U.S. is:

- Visa is required (not optional)
- Passport
- Background check

All require a criminal background check too. So if you want a Mexican passport, have criminal history and by some miracle it gets approved; you'll still be questioned regarding entering the U.S.

If you committed a crime in the past an apply for a visa (which can only be done at a U.S. consulate or the Embassy in Mexico City); you will NOT get a visa issued; which means no U.S.A. for you

Fail a background check with the two above documents while in a foreign country, violate visa restrictions with so much as petty crime; you'll be deported back to your natural country (Mexico)

Now, put this into perspective. Why are those strict precautions not taken for muslims before even letting them on a plane inbound for the U.S.? Why do they get a free pass? Israel (in context with OP) needs to up security for allowing muslims into their country along with anyone who has a criminal record previously. Make it as hard as possible to get in if you screwed up in the past. I think some misunderstood my message too. I'm not stating that giving an opportunity for muslims to leave islam means keep migrating them to Western countries. Anyone can lie but if there's any sign of a criminal record or threat; deny entry from said country. Those who find that harsh need to understand that this is not an ethnicity, it's not a race...islam is a religion. Granted there are thousands of big religions worldwide and cult religions too; make no mistake -- nothing is more violent and dangerous than islam. I listed events which happened in the past 20-years or less too all rooted to islam. The world needs to stop protecting islam and treat those deep in it as threats. Don't wait for another attack because it will happen again.

Not sure what you’re talking about. The only Muslim country that is visa exempt for travel to the USA is Brunei. Even then, being visa exempt does not mean you don’t face any customs and border control. There are plenty of Canadians for example banned from the USA for life because of criminal records.

 

[Happosai]

Not sure what you’re talking about. The only Muslim country that is visa exempt for travel to the USA is Brunei. Even then, being visa exempt does not mean you don’t face any customs and border control. There are plenty of Canadians for example banned from the USA for life because of criminal records.

CTRL + F "background check" was the thesis statement. Thanks for reading that but the whole of this wasn't about visas. Just gave perspective as to how tedious the entry process is for Mexicans. Visa isn't just for living, that's for an anytime/everyday visit to the States. If it's the same for other countries, great. Should be difficult to gain entry. When I applied for my Mexican residency it was a 3-year process. Expensive, ton of paperwork, ton of stipulations and if I failed anything in criminal background check, it would have been void. However, we're talking general entry into a country. Customs and border control will do what exactly for inbound flights regarding background checks? This is a new process for non-U.S. muslims visiting the States if they're being checked. I was literally implying to single them out with checks. Not going to derail this thread, so if it's not a constructive response...save it for elsewhere.

 

[ADiTAR]

Palestinians = Hamas.

 

[Happosai]

Palestinians = Hamas.

What I've been writing in several pages now and knew to be true. Anyone who doesn't believe this should ask themselves if Hamas elected themselves to Gaza. And just as with any election, if you don't like the choices or there's only one choice and it's wrong...just don't vote. But that wasn't the case with the innocent palestinians was it?

 

[Chronicle]

I loathe the MSM in the UK. Just wanted to get that off my chest.

What's msm? If you excuse my ignorance. Don't worry I can't be offended.

 

[ADiTAR]

What I've been writing in several pages now and knew to be true. Anyone who doesn't believe this should ask themselves if Hamas elected themselves to Gaza. And just as with any election, if you don't like the choices or there's only one choice and it's wrong...just don't vote. But that wasn't the case with the innocent palestinians was it?

Hamas was also going to be elected to run the West Bank until the PLO cancelled the elections.

People need to wake up from the narrative that there's a difference between Hamas and Palestinians, it's clear there really isn't.

So far no deal was signed, I hope we resume the war, and I hope we surprise the fuck out of them. God I hope the IDF has creativity to do something they don't expect.

 

[ADiTAR]

What's msm? If you excuse my ignorance. Don't worry I can't be offended.

Mainstream media.

 

[Happosai]

Hamas was also going to be elected to run the West Bank until the PLO cancelled the elections.

People need to wake up from the narrative that there's a difference between Hamas and Palestinians, it's clear there really isn't.

So far no deal was signed, I hope we resume the war, and I hope we surprise the fuck out of them. God I hope the IDF has creativity to do something they don't expect.

This was clear day one of the attacks. The solution most wanted on the 7th was to wipe out Hamas. Well, given Hamas dress up as civilians and this sometimes makes them impossible to identify in general population; if it were my war...I'd say eliminate em all and take no risks. The only innocent are the hostages. Otherwise, this will resume but probably another 5-years or more continually having to pause or truce.

 

[ADiTAR]

A Thai worker who was kidnapped says he lived off half a pita a day, and when he went to the bathroom he soaked the toilet paper in water and ate it so his stomach would be full.

"נאלצתי לאכול נייר טואלט" | ג'ימי ששוחרר חושף את האימה שעבר בשבי

גאלינור (ג'ימי) פאצ'קו מהפיליפינים הסתתר בממ"ד בניר עוז, כשמחבלים פרצו פנימה וחטפו אותו לעזה: "אחד מהם ירה ליד האוזן שלי, לא חשבתי שישאירו אותי בחיים". הוא סיפר איך הצליח לשרוד בשבי: "קיבלתי רק חצי פיתה ביום. אמרתי שאני צריך ללכת לשירותים, אז נתנו לי נייר. הרטבתי אותו ואכלתי - הקיבה לא הייתה ריקה"

www.ynet.co.il

Another Thai who worked in Israel says the Jews he was kept with were beaten with electric cables.

 

[jason10mm]

A Thai worker who was kidnapped says he lived off half a pita a day, and when he went to the bathroom he soaked the toilet paper in water and ate it so his stomach would be full.

"נאלצתי לאכול נייר טואלט" | ג'ימי ששוחרר חושף את האימה שעבר בשבי

גאלינור (ג'ימי) פאצ'קו מהפיליפינים הסתתר בממ"ד בניר עוז, כשמחבלים פרצו פנימה וחטפו אותו לעזה: "אחד מהם ירה ליד האוזן שלי, לא חשבתי שישאירו אותי בחיים". הוא סיפר איך הצליח לשרוד בשבי: "קיבלתי רק חצי פיתה ביום. אמרתי שאני צריך ללכת לשירותים, אז נתנו לי נייר. הרטבתי אותו ואכלתי - הקיבה לא הייתה ריקה"

www.ynet.co.il

Another Thai who worked in Israel says the Jews he was kept with were beaten with electric cables.

What do we call that level of treatment of a prisoner of war (we'll just side step the fact they were uninvolved noncombatatns).....yeah, you guessed it, WAR CRIME.

So for you "both siders" in the thread, this is what you are defending.

 

[GutsOfThor]

You know at this point I really don't care what happens to any member of hamas or any Palestinians that support them ,

Both the far left and far right are miserable failures that are hateful of those that are better and more successful than them

If only we could throw every pinko commie and fascist pig in a fucking hole the world would be a much better place

 

[Happosai]

If only we could throw every pinko commie and fascist pig in a fucking hole the world would be a much better place

You throw a religion in there which worships the moon god (allah) you've got yourself a deal. I have the hole...active volcano bordering my city. Very active.

 

[Havoc2049]

That incident earlier this year of the older guy being beaten nearly to death by a mob in Oakland while everyone else laughed and filmed it was…revealing, about the current state of the city.

Warning, graphic.

Spoiler

Yikes, I never saw that video. It's crazy that cities let events like this occur and then some average citizen tries to get them to stop and gets worked.

 

[Dice]

Dude was crazy to go in there like that alone.

 

[wa600]

Didnt think I would ever see a video in which a japanese person 'teaches' other japanese people about this conflict by spreading misinformation.
According to the woman in the video the Jews were fleeing from the Nazis during WW2 to Palestine. The Palestinians - as nice as they are - welcomed them at first. Already back then the Jews had the plan to steal their land though. So over time the Jews were surpressing the Muslims and kept attacking them over and over. And now Palestinians are defending their homeland with their last strength. Even Hamas is just fighting to protect their land.
Biggest wtf-moment is when she is explaining that there are international rules for war like not being allowed to attack hospitals or schools and that Israel is ignoring those. Palestine, on the other hand, is following these rules since they are mostly bombing israeli tanks.

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[jason10mm]

Didnt think I would ever see a video in which a japanese person 'teaches' other japanese people about this conflict by spreading misinformation.
According to the woman in the video the Jews were fleeing from the Nazis during WW2 to Palestine. The Palestinians - as nice as they are - welcomed them at first. Already back then the Jews had the plan to steal their land though. So over time the Jews were surpressing the Muslims and kept attacking them over and over. And now Palestinians are defending their homeland with their last strength. Even Hamas is just fighting to protect their land.
Biggest wtf-moment is when she is explaining that there are international rules for war like not being allowed to attack hospitals or schools and that Israel is ignoring those. Palestine, on the other hand, is following these rules since they are mostly bombing israeli tanks.

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if you ever wanted evidence that the Time Police are fuck-ups and the multiverse is collapsing in on itself, this kind of bizarre alt-history phenomenon is a clear example of it.

 

[ADiTAR]

if you ever wanted evidence that the Time Police are fuck-ups and the multiverse is collapsing in on itself, this kind of bizarre alt-history phenomenon is a clear example of it.

Soon it'll change in Wikipedia also. Rashida Tlaib also said as much, that Arabs in Israel welcomed the Jews.

Also looking at the video, the Japanese woman prob married this guy and is spreading this misinformation from him. Most people don't know other countries histories.

Who cares. We will still erase Hamas.

 

[Wastelander92]

This is the top point of intersectionality where condemning Hamas is racist and what they did on 10/7 is justified because of it. There's no reprogramming of these people. It's sick and I hope they'll find something better to do with their lives.

All these women defending Hamas when if Hamas had their way, they wouldn't even be allowed in there.

 

[ADiTAR]

All these women defending Hamas when if Hamas had their way, they wouldn't even be allowed in there.

I'd love to see someone setup a booth there for a full paid internship in the West Bank for a year, see how many apply.

 

[ChuckeRearmed]

All these women defending Hamas when if Hamas had their way, they wouldn't even be allowed in there.

I see a lot of muslim (religious ones) women around and from my impression they seem to hate a lot of other women. It reminds me of that mentality where "how dare you be more free than me!". And considering how they - for example - as we saw are removing posters and stuff like - they content to live like that.

 

[Havoc2049]

Collapse of the Western countries to forced 'acceptance' and the course of change to socialism (only tipping onward toward communism). I started noticing socialism becoming common place in U.S. around the end of the 2000s but it wasn't half as loud as it is now. That's where that whole 'reality is whatever you decide it is' comes from, pure social Marxism and the greatest powers / leaders did nothing to stop it. On the contrary, they invited it in with open arms. Anyone here who grew up in the 70s, 80s or 90s knows that the U.S., England or other powerful Western nations were not like this. This is also the reason why terrorists are now victims. Back in 2001 after the 9/11 terrorist attacks, the majority of Americans still saw this as a pure act of evil and thus condemned it. How do you suppose people would react to a large terrorist attack like that in the U.S. today? I guarantee it wouldn't be the same pushback against terrorism we saw then.

Well, I'll agree with you there. I don't think that Israel wants this though. Ceasefire was becoming a global mantra and I don't think anyone in Israel really wanted this as an option to regain hostages. My understanding (or correct me if I'm wrong) was to eliminate all leading Hamas targets and for the IDF to rescue the hostages which weren't lost or already dead. It's great to see hostages returned but you also have to consider Hamas taking their time with this to plan for another attack. While the left hand gives back hostages (very few at that), the right hand is doing what they do with those billions sent in from the West for 'relief'.

I'm not too worried about Hamas regrouping or planning another attack. I think this is a stall tactic so that the leaders and fat cats that are left can plan their exit strategy. As you can see by these hostage negotiations, Hamas has already lost quite a bit of command and control, as they were having a hard time meeting deadlines and finding hostages. The IDF was handily destroying Hamas and has made massive gains militarily and had taken quite a bit of territory in a short amount of time. Isreal will get what hostages they can and continue the fight.

 

[ADiTAR]

One of the three murdered was a pregnant woman.

 

[Dice]

One of the three murdered was a pregnant woman.

Wait so the apocalyptic death cult doesn’t honor ceasefires? I am shocked.

 

[Happosai]

I'm not too worried about Hamas regrouping or planning another attack. I think this is a stall tactic so that the leaders and fat cats that are left can plan their exit strategy. As you can see by these hostage negotiations, Hamas has already lost quite a bit of command and control, as they were having a hard time meeting deadlines and finding hostages. The IDF was handily destroying Hamas and has made massive gains militarily and had taken quite a bit of territory in a short amount of time. Isreal will get what hostages they can and continue the fight.

Well that really is what they wanted ceasefire for in the first place. Hamas doesn't care about exchanging prisoners or returning hostages because they're not humans. They wanted this ceasefire to back build and try to gain the upper hand once IDF returns back in business. Thing is, they're nothing. Whatever they've been planning will not succeed and they are doomed for destruction no matter what.

One of the three murdered was a pregnant woman.

Scary thought but Jerusalem is pretty doggone close to West Bank. How much of Hamas terrorists are in the West Bank and who's watching them? Eyes are on Gaza and the North in Lebanon. Makes me wonder if these terrorists didn't just drive over from the West Bank.

 

[ADiTAR]

Wait so the apocalyptic death cult doesn’t honor ceasefires? I am shocked.

Scary thought but Jerusalem is pretty doggone close to West Bank. How much of Hamas terrorists are in the West Bank and who's watching them? Eyes are on Gaza and the North in Lebanon. Makes me wonder if these terrorists didn't just drive over from the West Bank.

It's not part of the deal. It's also Israeli citizens sorta who have our passport and they live in east-Jerusalem.

 

[GutsOfThor]

Terrorist scum violating a cease fire?

Waiting to see how this is Israel's fault.

 

[ADiTAR]

Terrorist scum violating a cease fire?

Waiting to see how this is Israel's fault.

Israel is also working in Jenin in the West Bank during the ceasefire.

 

[Happosai]

It's not part of the deal. It's also Israeli citizens sorta who have our passport and they live in east-Jerusalem.

Forgot that some of these bags of filth had did live with papers in Israel. I think it should be a matter of investigation (if they've apprehended these terrorists) to determine if this wasn't yet another 'free palestine' movement. They might legally live in Israel but that wouldn't be unlike a terrorist either. Especially Hamas. With Hamas, they've try blending in (dressing as civilians) and they've certainly influenced plenty outside Gaza.

Unfortunately to many expectations that this is a direct violation of ceasefire, Western media will ignore it or deny it. There are several docs I could share (which are lengthy) on ceasefire conditions. There's a part which they're exploiting which states that if the act of violence during a ceasefire wasn't prompted by the immediate party(ies) in warfare; it will not be considered violation. We all know it was a breach though.

 

[Embearded]

One of the three murdered was a pregnant woman.

Surreal
If i got a call telling me that my pregnant wife was killed, i'd make it my life's goal to kill anyone who was involved and their families.
I hope it was fast and she didn't have time to think of her baby and get scared.

 

[ADiTAR]

Let's see if advertisers pull out or swallow it.

 

[winjer]

We really need to ban TikTok.
It's rotting the brain of an entire generation.