Topher
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something something build a wall around gaza
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Hamas terrorists infiltrated Israel. 1400+ killed, 2400+ wounded, 240+ abducted. Israel declares war
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something something build a wall around gaza
Romulus
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Do any history buffs know who occupied the land before the Palestinians? In other words what was "muh holy land" excuse for murdering people over the land before? And before that?
Pretty much every slice of land has a long history of humans lying about why they are entitled to it. Then you go back a few hundred years and that same slice of land some other group is telling a different lie about why they were the true originators and justifying their reasons for violence and occuption lmao. The cycle just repeats before recorded history.
All these fuckers are full of shit. Do you have guns and ammo to protect your shit? That's the real question. The Palestines are full of shit claiming entitlement to anything, as are the Israelis, but don't play victim
Pretty much every slice of land has a long history of humans lying about why they are entitled to it. Then you go back a few hundred years and that same slice of land some other group is telling a different lie about why they were the true originators and justifying their reasons for violence and occuption lmao. The cycle just repeats before recorded history.
All these fuckers are full of shit. Do you have guns and ammo to protect your shit? That's the real question. The Palestines are full of shit claiming entitlement to anything, as are the Israelis, but don't play victim
HeisenbergFX4
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He should have been canceled for all the money he sent Iran
TheInfamousKira
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We're all colonizers of the dinosaurs vast land.
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I would, too.
Liljagare
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Statement from President Joe Biden on American Citizens Impacted in Israel | The White House
As we continue to account for the horrors of the appalling terrorist assault against Israel this weekend and the hundreds of innocent civilians who were
As we continue to account for the horrors of the appalling terrorist assault against Israel this weekend and the hundreds of innocent civilians who were murdered, we are seeing the immense scale and reach of this tragedy. Sadly, we now know that at least 11 American citizens were among those killed—many of whom made a second home in Israel.
It’s heart wrenching. These families have been torn apart by inexcusable hatred and violence. We also know that American citizens still remain unaccounted for, and we are working with Israeli officials to obtain more information as to their whereabouts. My heart goes out to every family impacted by the horrible events of the past few days. The pain these families have endured, the enormity of their loss, and the agony of those still awaiting information is unfathomable.
The safety of American citizens—whether at home or abroad—is my top priority as President. While we are still working to confirm, we believe it is likely that American citizens may be among those being held by Hamas. I have directed my team to work with their Israeli counterparts on every aspect of the hostage crisis, including sharing intelligence and deploying experts from across the United States government to consult with and advise Israeli counterparts on hostage recovery efforts.
For American citizens who are currently in Israel, the State Department is providing consular assistance as well as updated security alerts. For those who desire to leave, commercial flights and ground options are still available. Please also take sensible precautions in the days ahead and follow the guidance of local authorities.
This is not some distant tragedy. The ties between Israel and the United States run deep. It is personal for so many American families who are feeling the pain of this attack as well as the scars inflicted through millennia of antisemitism and persecution of Jewish people. In cities across the country, police departments have stepped up security around centers of Jewish life, and the Department of Homeland Security, the Federal Bureau of Investigation, and other federal law enforcement partners are closely monitoring for any domestic threats in connection with the horrific terrorist attacks in Israel.
In this moment of heartbreak, the American people stand shoulder-to-shoulder with Israelis. We remember the pain of being attacked by terrorists at home, and Americans across the country stand united against these evil acts that have once more claimed innocent American lives. It is an outrage. And we will continue to show the world that the American people are unwavering in our resolve to oppose terrorism in all forms.
The United States and the State of Israel are inseparable partners, and I affirmed to Prime Minister Netanyahu again when we spoke yesterday that the United States will continue to make sure Israel has what it needs to defend itself and its people.
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funkygunther
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if you were Trump?
He did do some solid work with the Abraham accords which normalised relations between Israel and a bunch of former enemies. But I don't think Hamas based anything on senile Joe's possible reaction, unlike Putin with Ukraine. In the latter, he saw that Obama/Biden did nothing when he annexed Crimea, so he was certainly emboldened to try to take all of Ukraine when Joe was in office and seen to be visibly weak and confused.
Eotheod
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No
That isn't a Sydney police uniform, police don't wear badges on their armbands but insignias or ranks.
Sorry for old reply, but not sure if anyone responded to you and was stuck on my last reply page.
That isn't a Sydney police uniform, police don't wear badges on their armbands but insignias or ranks.
My mistake then, looked like what came up in a Google search for Sydney police.
A wall/fence now protected by tanks and air power. You couldn't just swim across a river and get in like thousands do every day at the US southern border.
Topher
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I was just messing around.
GutsOfThor
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Who gives a fuck what that subhuman sack of shit has to say about anything.
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Rephrase the question.
Raonak
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Protip: You can condemn both hamas murdering innocents Israelis, and the israel govt bombing innocent Palestinians.
Any logical person should be condemning both.
In the same way you can condemn terrorists for 9/11 and also condemn the US for their bullshit "war on terror"
The world has got to STOP justifying the death of innocent people. It's horrific and wrong no matter how justified anyone thinks it is.
Any logical person should be condemning both.
In the same way you can condemn terrorists for 9/11 and also condemn the US for their bullshit "war on terror"
The world has got to STOP justifying the death of innocent people. It's horrific and wrong no matter how justified anyone thinks it is.
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He was our last alpha male president , though.
DaciaJC
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From a Resetera thread when the first reports of Israeli civilians getting kidnapped, mowed down in the streets, their throats cut, etc. were coming out:
Yet again, the Era mods show themselves to be some of the most witless fools imaginable. I wish I could say they're just part of a tiny minority, but sadly, there have even been cases over the last few days of people loudly cheering for these despicable scum. What a wretched group of demented fucks.
Yet again, the Era mods show themselves to be some of the most witless fools imaginable. I wish I could say they're just part of a tiny minority, but sadly, there have even been cases over the last few days of people loudly cheering for these despicable scum. What a wretched group of demented fucks.
funkygunther
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you would blame Biden too if you were Trump?
Basically the Uncle that works for Nintendo as a janitor situation....
Romulus
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From a Resetera thread when the first reports of Israeli civilians getting kidnapped, mowed down in the streets, their throats cut, etc. were coming out:
Yet again, the Era mods show themselves to be some of the most witless fools imaginable. I wish I could say they're just part of a tiny minority, but sadly, there have even been cases over the last few days of people loudly cheering for these despicable scum. What a wretched group of demented fucks.
Unfucking believable. Wait until the videos come out showing Hamas raping and torturing people, then resetera will say it's CGI.
Wildebeest
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To be honest, I was sceptical. The memory of that 100% unverified fantasy story about the USA blowing up the Nord Stream pipeline is too fresh.
HeisenbergFX4
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I am not sure why people go there still to this day then come here to complain about that place then go back to said placeFrom a Resetera thread when the first reports of Israeli civilians getting kidnapped, mowed down in the streets, their throats cut, etc. were coming out:
Yet again, the Era mods show themselves to be some of the most witless fools imaginable. I wish I could say they're just part of a tiny minority, but sadly, there have even been cases over the last few days of people loudly cheering for these despicable scum. What a wretched group of demented fucks.
Stay away from that place or don't complain here about why they are stupid there
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Yes.
Ben Shapiro collected an hour of clips from various atrocities committed by Hamas this weekend. Beheadings, murders, rapes, mutilating corpses, etc. Most of the footage proudly released by Hamas themselves, of course. Be forewarned about the graphic and uncensored nature of the content.
The Face of Absolute Evil
funkygunther
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same here
ManaByte
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kruis
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It's good that these videos come out. Our media try to shelter their viewers by hiding all the gruesome bits, by talking about the most horrible murders in a clinical, dispassioned way, but somehow that makes acts of terrorism slightly unreal. When you see actual mutilated dead bodies lying in pools of blood on the floor, a terrrorist act is not an abstraction anymore. Even the most radical pro-Palestinian lefties will have to confront the fact that Palestinian freedom fighters are just ISIS with a different name. The people that killed 250+ party goers and hunted down and massacred families in their homes aren't heroes, they're human monsters of the worst kind.
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Dice
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Okay so chances of Israel bombing buildings they figure Hamas is hiding in vs Chances of Israel bombing their own border control points? I know which I would try to stay closer to if I couldn’t leave entirely. Or they could use whatever path the 4000 Hamas guys left and came back through.In a normal scenario, when a country says they are going to bomb the crap out of your residence, you leave the area. Head out to the countryside or perhaps another country etc. But the Palestinians in the Gaza strip can't do that. Because Israel controls the border crossings and won't let people out.
Normally in an Israel/Gaza strip tit for tat attack in the past, for 10 Israeli dead you may end up with a 100 or more Palestinian deaths. If the same stats hold out this time, there may be over 7000 dead Palestinians (yes some will be terrorists but majority women and children) before Israel declares "victory".
"The IDF on Sunday said it is now focusing on taking control of the Gaza Strip, and urged civilians there to leave residential areas near the border immediately for their safety as Israeli military operations continued to target Hamas.
But most Gazans have no way of fleeing the besieged enclave. All crossings out of the territory are shut, with the exception of the tightly controlled Rafah crossing with Egypt."
‘Nowhere to go’: Ordinary Palestinians live in fear as Israel retaliates against Hamas | CNN
When the Palestinian militant group Hamas launched an attack on Israel over the weekend, Palestinians living in the besieged strip had mixed feelings.www.cnn.com
As I said, I wonder how these things are actually perceived and how they are responded to by people there.
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Pejo
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I've been reading this thread and watching the accompanying videos and reading the informative links. Didn't really want to chime in previously because I was mostly ignorant of the relationship between these two nations and everything else that was going on. After a few days worth of reading up on things and getting a general feel, I have come to a few conclusions for myself.
- Hamas are a bunch of cowardly despicable people. Complete delusion to think that "god" wants them to rape and murder civilians and parade it around as if they did something good.
- The media lately has been giving me the same feelings as during the lockdown riots. "Mostly peaceful protester" vibes all over the place with stuff like calling them "unnamed terrorist group" and "freedom fighters". For the uninformed or those that only read headlines/hot takes on twitter, I can sadly see this tactic being very effective.
- The various celebrations around the world and the absolute lunatic fringe left (like them) show that the assimilation of refugees and immigrants has essentially not happened. It feels more like sleeper cells being deposited in western nation than the people actually trying to integrate. This actually causes me a fair bit of concern since patriotism has been demonized in the west and everybody disassociates themselves with the country they live in anymore.
- The whole idea of the Gaza strip seems absolutely stupid to me. To have one tiny line of land in such hotly contested area in such a weird situation. I get that Palestine doesn't want to give it up, but it seems better for everyone involved if they just give up that part of the land in exchange for the same amount of acreage on the opposite side connected to their country. They obviously don't want this, but the physical location of that land is causing so much shit for the people living there as well as Israel. Is that beachfront really worth being peppered with missiles every time something stirs the pot? Then again, if it is 'holy land', people have proven to do stupid shit time and time again.
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LordCBH
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HeisenbergFX4
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He can say some mean things but while he was in office inflation was in check, gas prices were low, was trying to secure our borders and our grocery bill for just my wife and I wasn't $200 a week
But yeah he sent some mean Tweets
This shit is a powder keg here just looking for a match
According to the info page at Northwestern, the faculty advisor of that group is:
Michael Rakowitz
Advisor Email:
m-rakowitz@northwestern.edu
So feel free to ask if he agrees with this. He is an Iraqi art teacher though, draw your own conclusions.
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Eotheod
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I fucking hate the dude, he's a piece of shit from my own personal opinion, but have to give him credit here for going through and cataloguing the atrocities.
You know for a fact surely that everything you listed would have happened no matter who was in control. Just easier to blame someone when it isn't your person of preference in power, which is a normal and perfectly valid response to political landscapes. Just don't believe that where we are right now in the world "wouldn't have happened" if X or Y was in power.
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ManaByte
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We deserve the judgement that is coming.
HeisenbergFX4
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I would assume this falls directly under the First Amendment and Stanford (or any other place) could find themselves in a world of hurt forcing removal of these signs because any Court would likely deem them not directly threatening to an individual (no matter how disgusting it is)
Maybe I am misremembering my Government classes
Sorry I don't know for a fact any of that would have happened no matter what, maybe it would have
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"Agree with @nickKristof, and am ashamed to be at the same university as the endorsers of this fatuous and morally monstrous statement. Deliberately murdering civilians, and abducting women, children, and the elderly, are heinous war crimes. And this regime is avowedly racist, misogynistic, homophobic, war-mongering, & contemptuous of factual history (see their charter). Confirms that much of activist morality today is driven not by harm, welfare, & responsibility but sectarian solidarity with designated victim groups & hatred for designated villains."
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DrFigs
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Right. it's protected by the first ammendment. I also think he's probably exaggerating about nearly being expelled. I never got a booster and my university kept sending me emails about it, saying that i can't continue w/ the grad program if i don't get it. I just ignored it. Never for one second did I think I would actually get expelled... I doubt Stanford is more liberal than my university.
funkygunther
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DeaDPo0L84
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People trying to both sides this are about as smooth brain as you can get. Reporting the death toll lumped together on both sides to complicate the entire situation when in reality only one side is justified. If someone breaks into your home, kidnaps your children, rapes and then murders your wife, you then retaliate by finding them and killing them in return it can't be reported as "Two people dead as situation gets out of hand", it's insanity.
Brigandier
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That's awesome... Do you have power generator and stuff??? What have you done for damp? Honestly I think you've made a good choice building it as I think the time when people will need them is coming and you're prepared!!!
Dr.Morris79
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London is fucked
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DeepEnigma
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Where's the mormon mafia when you need it?
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Probably having water balloon fight or family picnic or something like that
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