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Hamas terrorists infiltrated Israel. 1400+ killed, 2400+ wounded, 240+ abducted. Israel declares war
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DeafTourette
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Hamas isn't a religious institution.... They aren't fighting for the people... They HURT their people...
As for someone earlier posting that "majority of Palestinians support Hamas" ... The Palestinians are undereducated unless they were able to get their education from elsewhere and get skewed news and propaganda... Even though many don't want Hamas there... It's been said again and again ... Even eyewitness account of someone who lived there for a bit, interviewing Palestinians under anonymity.
I feel it's just folks convincing themselves that they're all just like Hamas.
As for someone earlier posting that "majority of Palestinians support Hamas" ... The Palestinians are undereducated unless they were able to get their education from elsewhere and get skewed news and propaganda... Even though many don't want Hamas there... It's been said again and again ... Even eyewitness account of someone who lived there for a bit, interviewing Palestinians under anonymity.
I feel it's just folks convincing themselves that they're all just like Hamas.
Israel doesn't play the victim. We never played the victim. We are just showing the world that we live next to Orcs. So when it's time to eliminate evil, we will have the backing.
And of course, it's the Jews fault for everything. Don't look up, a Jewish laser could find you.
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FunkMiller
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Entire GDP of Iran and Lebanon combined: 476 billion.
Annual US military budget: 877 billion.
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DeafTourette
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I feel like Israel might be politically tied up at some point and won't be able to root out Hamas like they should... Like somehow the international community will hamper them somehow ...
Hamas needs to be taken out YESTERDAY and give the Palestinians ACTUAL government... Not a dictatorship run by the very few and wealthy.
Hamas needs to be taken out YESTERDAY and give the Palestinians ACTUAL government... Not a dictatorship run by the very few and wealthy.
LordOfChaos
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Entire GDP of Iran and Lebanon combined: 476 billion.
Annual US military budget: 877 billion.
Did we learn nothing about asymmetry in Iraq and Afghanistan? Iran would make those look like cakewalks
winjer
Gold Member
The problem with Iraq and Afghanistan was not the part of destroying their military. It was the part of the occupation and rebuilding.
The only way to do it now, it to blow up the Iranian regime and it's military, and then move out.
ManaByte
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The same people posting messages of support to terrorists on their social media.
LordOfChaos
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That's proven to be such a good idea everywhere else and totally didn't create more extreme terrorist regimes to fill in the void
FunkMiller
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Neither of those were world wars, were they?
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DeepEnigma
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Israeli family of five, including three young kids, murdered by Hamas after taking shelter in safe room
An Israeli family of five, including twin 6-year–old girls and their 4-year-old brother, were killed by Hamas – a short time after their mom messaged friends that they took refuge in a bomb s…
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Abhorrent.
winjer
Gold Member
And doing nothing in regards to the current Iranian regime has done any good?
We have them helping Russia invading Ukraine. Sponsoring terrorist attacks in half the Middle East. Creating a nuclear weapons program. And sponsoring the biggest attack on Israel in half a century.
ThisIsMyDog
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LordOfChaos
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I'm not sure what you're saying.
Kataploom
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So, let me summarize this since I've not been an active follower of this conflict and need to know I'm understanding well: Hamas attacked Israel and are hiding in Palestina so Israel doesn't dare to retaliate, then Israel tired of that shit went and attacked them anyway in Palestina, involving civilians and the press is all about "Israel attacking civilians"?
If that's the case, it's a shit situation, they're counting on "bad press" involving innocent people in order to do damage control, what else is Israel in that situation supposed to do? This is literally a "lose-lose" so Israel might choose between "bad press now and get rid of them" or "less bad press and keep risking their state security", am I seeing this right?
If that's the case, it's a shit situation, they're counting on "bad press" involving innocent people in order to do damage control, what else is Israel in that situation supposed to do? This is literally a "lose-lose" so Israel might choose between "bad press now and get rid of them" or "less bad press and keep risking their state security", am I seeing this right?
StreetsofBeige
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If I was Israel, I'd keep up responding hard. Trying to play the nice guy with negligible strike backs will do nothing. It'll just be seen as weak and brushed off. It's not like the rest of the UN or USA are barnstorming in helping with foot soldiers.
It's basically you vs someone else toe to toe with other people watching. If someone attacks you first punching you in the head, you dont hit back with a gentle tap or an equal punch. You stomp on his head to end it. Now if the aggressor who started it keeps getting up for more, then you just stomp on his head again.
Hamas and any supporters expecting Israel to do nothing while getting raided with hostages taken, good luck. Your best hope is Israel calms down and loses interest after their initial strike. And hope allies dont join in.
It's basically you vs someone else toe to toe with other people watching. If someone attacks you first punching you in the head, you dont hit back with a gentle tap or an equal punch. You stomp on his head to end it. Now if the aggressor who started it keeps getting up for more, then you just stomp on his head again.
Hamas and any supporters expecting Israel to do nothing while getting raided with hostages taken, good luck. Your best hope is Israel calms down and loses interest after their initial strike. And hope allies dont join in.
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LordOfChaos
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Is there any space between doing nothing and creating another ISIS, Taliban, Hamas, or something worse by knocking out the government and military (again) and peacing out?
I don't know the solutions, but that doesn't mean go with the terrible fucking idea
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winjer
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Diplomacy and negotiations with Iran failed for over 4 decades.
Do you know why? Because the Iranian regime does not compromise in their hatred for the west and Israel.
So tell me what do you think we should do with it? Accept more terrorist attacks? This attack on Israel is not the exception. It's just the biggest that Iran ever sponsored.
Terror needs to be shown forcefully that all the West goes against it. Now's the time.
LordOfChaos
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You're not addressing my point at all. Say we topple the government and military and leave as you say, and then an even worse regime forms in the power vacuum as we've seen everywhere else we did this, more suicidal, more extreme. How did that help not "accepting more terrorist attacks"?
HeisenbergFX4
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Destroy that one next.
winjer
Gold Member
Let the Iranian people choose their destiny.
Maybe this time, they will be able to pick a regime that is not a terrorist state.
Madserb2023
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I am guessing the babies were oppressive colonists. That's what I am being told. I think we should bring them true colonialism and give them the crusade they seem to be begging for.
LordCBH
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If that is the case, then let them rule over rubble and broken bones until they need to be culled from the world like the current regime needs to be.
gaming_again
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WTF. I know it's trite to say but... that is gobsmacking.How does a US congressman display the flag of another country? This should not be allowed.
Draugoth
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Untrustworthy titties
They should pay her a 1 week vacation in Hamas territory to see what would happen to her if she lived there.
Western Privilege is real.
Slayer-33
Liverpool-2
It's insane there are people supporting Hamas
They need to go on a full ground attack to kill ALL Hamas sob's..
ChuckeRearmed
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To where they are evacuating? Syria?
The empathy one is intended for that purpose.
North Lebanon, Lebanon is a large country.
ThisIsMyDog
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More like very small.
ChuckeRearmed
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Oh, did not know that Lebanon has a separate area on the north. I guess, the south is Hezbollah controlled one.
Typical tactics used by ancient savages that raided territories and then escaped back.
Happosai
Hold onto your panties
This should be pinned to the thread. Very proud that GAF has taken a stand against the abominations committed.
When People Tell You Who They Are, Believe Them
This is what ‘decolonization’ really looks like. Look carefully at who is cheering it on.www.thefp.com
When People Tell You Who They Are, Believe Them
This is what ‘decolonization’ really looks like. Look carefully at who is cheering it on.
By Bari Weiss
October 10, 2023
At the end of the Second World War, it took the Allies months, if not years, to uncover the full scale of Germany’s war crimes. That’s because the Nazis tried to hide them.
In October 2023, Hamas broadcast what they did—what they are doing—in real time.
They took horrific videos to document and share it all. Videos of naked women; of a captured six-year-old-boy; of beheaded soldiers.
This young woman—her name is Mor—learned that her grandmother had been slaughtered because a terrorist took her grandmother’s cell phone, filmed her murder, and then uploaded the video to the grandmother’s own Facebook page, ensuring her family would see it.
Now they are threatening to execute the hostages they have captured on live television.
It’s as if the Cossacks had TikTok.
On the one hand I think: surely this will be sufficient. Surely this amount of blood will be enough to shake the world awake. Surely no one can equivocate or justify this. As my friend Sarah Haider wrote, “How easy is it to simply condemn targeted violence against civilians? Can there be a lower bar?”
And yet, across the world, people have sunk below it.
Here you can watch people gathered at the Sydney Opera House cheering “gas the Jews” and “death to the Jews.” People are rejoicing in the slaughter on the streets of Berlin and London and Toronto and New York.
At our most prestigious universities there is silence from administrations that leapt to speak out on George Floyd’s killing and on the war in Ukraine. (Indeed, Meantime, the social justice crowd offers explanations for the massacre—a massacre that, in part, targeted a group of progressive Israelis at a music festival. Terrorists came to that festival on paragliders carrying machine guns to start their slaughter. They raped women there next to the dead bodies of their friends.
In that way, as Free Press editor and writer Peter Savodnik explains in our second piece in today’s digest, the last few days have been extremely clarifying.
Because now we know.
Now we know who would have looked at Jews shoved onto cattle cars and said, “Well, they did undermine the German economy.” Those are the people today saying: “This is a justified response to the provocation of Israel existing.” Now we know whose politics are rooted not in conservatism or liberalism or anything else other than simply hating Jews. Now we can see exactly how people manage to always come up with a reason for why the Jews deserved it.
The people cheering and waving flags are not celebrating Palestinian liberation. The Hamas attack that began on October 7 won’t lead to a free Palestine. Instead, it will lead—it is already leading—to a horrific escalation, with many more dead on both sides. The people cheering are celebrating death. I’m struck that American intellectuals are reprinting the picture of the paraglider as an image of liberation, like a hip new logo, that visual of death.
Hamas broadcast the slaughter. I thought it would be enough.
FUBARx89
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Didn't she get a load of shit and death threats for the BJ she did wearing a hijab?
She should know better.
You're right, I dunno why I always thought they reach all the way to Turkey.
ChuckeRearmed
Member
Historically there were three solutions to these problems - it was either a genocide of the whole population, relocation (sending people away to other lands) or basically paying some other tribes to handle the matter.
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DeepEnigma
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It's almost as if BLM is a propaganda fueled proxy organization that we've been saying for years now.
Jinzo Prime
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They don't speak for all black people.
Agreed.
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