Bojji
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Oh allies knew about holocaust but they didn't care that much. This guy put himself in auchiwtitz for this info to be obtained:
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Hamas terrorists infiltrated Israel. 1400+ killed, 2400+ wounded, 240+ abducted. Israel declares war
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Oh allies knew about holocaust but they didn't care that much. This guy put himself in auchiwtitz for this info to be obtained:
Wildebeest
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The point is that information about it was not distributed evenly. The exact conditions in the camps were not something the Germans were publicising and bragging about.
FunkMiller
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Read all of this article, please.
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ThisIsMyDog
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Where is the point of diminish returns for baby killing with you?
The guy has a Guy Fawkes mask, the TERRORIST who plotted to blow up the Westminster Palace in the Gunpowder Plot. I mean, they are not even subtle about their intentions!
funkygunther
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your ad hominem virtue signaling doesn't work on me mate
Bojji
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Yeah they also wanted to destroy evidence when they were losing the war. While hamas would live stream every hideous act they commit. Leftist at the same time won't believe them and say that it was deep fake or something.
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Nonehxc
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Already knew about it. But he is wrong.
He wasn't the architect.
His father was.
Quadi( Chief Justice) of the Sharia Courts of Jerusalem. You can't get more muslim hardliner than that.
The Original Bastard, the original Mufti, father to a Grand Mufti bastard who was the brother of this last Grand Mufti bastard. So you see, the blood runs thick.
Mohammed Tahir al-Husayni - Wikipedia
During the early Zionist inmigration, there seemed to be some good will. Zionist inmigrants came with money, much more developed knowledge, etc etc. They would BUY, not occupy, the lands. They intended(as they did), to develop it and build industry, and to share, of course, all the industry would need a workforce. And Arab Palestinians, used to extract a meagre income from a rocky earth, were elated.
But as always, there were some hardliners, and his father(and father of the Grand Mufti before the last Grand Mufti) was an arab muslim hardliner bastard during the closing decades of a dying Ottoman empire. There always was Jews, mainly in and around Jerusalem and a few settlements, on the land of Palestine, and as you can gather, they were barely more than dogs.
Well, the hardliners saw them coming from Europe, America and thought
'these mfs gonna go through us like a hot knife through butter with all their knowledges and technologistes', you know, as arab muslims always seem to do, embrace primitivism and brutality against modernisation of everything, of the mind, the soul, technology, society, way of thinking... obviously, their rulers are primitivist and brutal, but not quite retarded, so they know with modern shit comes modern thinking and their hold over their retarded pooulation breaks.So this guy starts, yo know, bad Jews they're gonna take our works from us kicking rocks under an olive tree, foreigners go home blablabla.
There would be strikes, there would be little progroms.
There would be disgusting things like agreeing to the sale of lands to newly arrived Zionist families...
And the arabs were pretty fucking happy about it, that being...
The lands they sold them in the morning, to get them back in the night putting that whole Zionist family through the knife.
Rossco EZ
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i think what you are asking is have they made up the beheading stuff to make it sound worse?
I'm just curious which method for executing children is "oy, that's over the line....mate".
I mean, they aren't burying them up to their necks next to ant hills and smearing honey on their faces, or putting bags of hungry rats over their faces, but I suspect that's just a function of time. I bet you can't wait till the IDF starts recovering hostages (or their remains) and "reports" the condition they were in so you can spin down your ever shifting list of "well, TODAY I think this guy is credible!"
funkygunther
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this is the second time in as many days you've tried to strawman something I've said, it didn't work yesterday and it won't work today...you can keep trying
So what Israel is doing what do you call it ?
Not just “ is doing “ but what it was doing for the past 15 years !
chlorate
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It really annoys the fuck out of me when I see white people with zero Jewish or any Middle Eastern ancestry demonizing Israel on their main accounts on social media simply because they’re leftists
They think they’re experts when they’ve never been there and have no connection to the conflict
They think they’re experts when they’ve never been there and have no connection to the conflict
Portugeezer
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Putting all that cut off Gaza electricity to use. I wonder how much that uses.
NickFire
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Not only that, but pretty much everything people complain about Israel boils down to anger that Israel won’t allow Hamas to take over Israel or commit atrocities without reprisals. But thanks to a broken education system these idiots don’t even realize that.
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Never fear, one of the capabilities of a nucular powered aircraft carrier is the ability to run power lines ashore.
The lasers can be turned to 11!
Nonehxc
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That's the old prototype.
Itss final form, as you can see, is a star, a Star of David.
As simple as this. Its getting completely ignored by the all the 'palestine' supporters who just want to save innocents supposedly. They will excuse the slaughter of jews and blame israel for it in fact.
Stitch
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A brief history of the land called Israel/Palestine/Canaan/the Levant.
Who's-killing-who viewer's guide here:
This Land Is Mine - Nina Paley
I envisioned This Land Is Mine as the last scene of my potential-possible-maybe- feature film, Seder-Masochism, but it’s the first (and so far only) scene I’ve animated. As the Bible says, “So the last will be first, and the first will be last.” This Land Is Mine from Nina Paley on Vimeo. Who’s...
blog.ninapaley.com
ThatStupidLion
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Genuinely curious - can someone explain the significance of the term “iron” to israel and why they use it in all their military nomenclature.
nush
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Iron Man. That’s basically it.
In Hebrew, Iron means Barzel, it sounds like the best and strongest metal.
near
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Biden pushes for Gaza humanitarian corridor in Netanyahu, Abbas talks
Biden pushes for Gaza humanitarian corridor in Netanyahu, Abbas talks
At a Human Rights Campaign National Dinner in Washington, Biden said that these “innocent Palestinians are being used as human shields.”
www.jpost.com
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kittoo
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ChuckeRearmed
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It is hilarious how palestinians and Gaza get a free pass for trying and killing israeli ("they are afraid of hamas", "women and children") but as soon as Israel tries to retaliate - "you can't do that, you should accept that they want to kill you, so give them water, support, eletricity etc"
ManaByte
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The most hilarious take, which is one you'll see repeated at some other forums, is that wanting to eliminate Israel isn't antisemitic.
StreetsofBeige
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Exactly.
That’s loser mentality. The ‘ol routine “please don’t punch us back even though we were assholes starting it” in hopes the victim forgives and forgets.
To teach a lesson, sometimes you got to give them an uppercut to the jaw.
This whole back and forth eternal battle where some mid east people hates Jewish people is like compulsive gamblers. It’s not even about winning money like hoping to go on a run winning money to buy a tv or car. The end game is really just the thrill of the fight. Big gamblers don’t really care if they win or go broke. It’s just the excitement of ups and downs. even when broke, you’d think they’d call it quits. Instead, after scraping up some money they are back at the tables. Even if they won big time pissing off the casino, they are still at the tables instead of calling it quits making profit.
FullMetalx117
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So you learned most of the religious justifications are in fact BS, and most of Muslims do enjoy western freedoms. I would be surprised if most of those people are actually pro Hamas, I think they’re mostly wanting to give voice to Palestinan civilians.
In terms of Arabs beings the real victims post 9/11 I’ll say this - very clearly the real victims are the ones that died in the towers that day. However, south Asian/Arab people were called terrorists daily by their peers, in schools, media from the period of 2001-2015. If you happened to have an ethnic name, watch out. If you’re eating ethnic food, watch out. If you happen to wear a headscarf in that time period, just completely forget about it lol.
I was one of the lucky ones, my skin complexion made it so people always asked what I was. And then my western mannerisms in general helped mask, but if people found out origins of my name, I wasn’t safe either. Fam had to give up everything to come here too so a backdrop of near poverty went along with this. All good tho, myself along with many others ended up being super successful and now these same bullies ask us for jobs or discounts on some medical exam.
From an anthropological perspective it’s fascinating to see just how much people’s positions have contorted from five minutes ago to now based on current events. Saying something that would literally get you fired from your job and blacklisted is now the righteous and approved stance.
ChuckeRearmed
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It is one of those reasons why I do think the west will eventually lose the cultural war against muslim population and will become more restrictive. It can be generally applied to any religion, but the western world by and large abandoned (aside maybe Poland) religious dogmatism (and western christianity is pretty washed out at this point, only evangelicans in USA and Latin America are probably on the same level of dogmatism at this point) so it leaves us with islamic population, who is encouraged to keep their restrictive beliefs.
With their population growing, replaced the previously secular western population, I believe sooner or later they will want to apply more of their own laws on the western countries. It is like when you allow wearing a hijab. While you don't see a problem with that, as everybody should be free to do whatever, but sooner or later, the opposing side - that is growing in population - will tell you to wear a hijab instead because they represent the majority now and did not abandon their old beliefs. A shame of course, but that's just the flow of history.
And we see it right away - westerners are trigger happy to see nazis everywhere, canceling people left and right over gestures, but they allow to do exactly the same thing for muslim populations (and happily join them). I believe the roman empire went through the same process with christianity, but the timeframe was longer because at that time, the information was spreading at much more slower weeks. Now you can connect with other people - on the side of the world - within a second.
StreetsofBeige
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The thing is western countries have for ages tried to do the democratic route with people allowed to protest this or that.
But nobody would think it would lead to Palestinian people openly hating criming Jewish people in public. Nobody would expect this since cities with big multicultural populations get along despite tons of different ethnic and religious backgrounds. So the protests you see might involve stuff like jobs, unions, Uber vs taxi drivers and shit like that. Non-violent/non-hate kinds of protests. The thinking is something like Jew hating is archaic so nobody is prepared for mobs of anti-Jewish parades. I don’t see giant hate spewing mobs from Christian’s, buddhists, Jews and Hindus. How is that Europeans, Indians, Israelis and Asians can get along pretty well and don’t do hate mobs? Doesn’t seem hard.
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This is a great post and insightful. It illustrates individual versus collective responsibility for "your group" and whether or not "your group" is even a thing. Are Muslims collectively responsible for the actions of a few? Do 'they' have a responsibility to police and inhibit bad actors. Clearly it's easy for outside groups to lump Muslims into a monolithic block based on a few characteristics, we all do it to virtually everyone else at some level.
But it also highlights the need to have opposing voices from within. If "all muslims" don't want to endure negative attention from the actions of a few, then there needs to be a public denouncement. I don't see many, or any really, demonstrations by Muslim groups to denounce Hamas, calls for them to surrender and release hostages, sympathize woth the suffering of Israelis, and support Palestinians as a separate entity from Hamas.
But, as a loose comparison, if a Christian radical bombs an abortion center, you see A LOT of Christian opposition to that tactic, even from groups otherwise protesting those clinics or fighting legislation making it legal. Even if they approve of the act in private, the PUBLIC stance is almost always condemnation. Very few leaders go on record supporting a bombing.
This is, to me, a stark contrast to the current conflict and is something I think the Muslim community, as much as it can be considered a community, at least within the US and other western countries where these communities are distinct minorities, should consider when there are protests, attacks against israeli/Jewish groups in the US, etc. If Muslims treat all Jewish activities under the same umbrella as Israeli government actions against Gaza, then they really can't complain when non-muslims treat all Muslims as if they were adjacent to bad actors.
NoLootBoxDev
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wow, wow, wow:
The new conspiracy says that it was Israel who made the attack, and not Hamas...
The new conspiracy says that it was Israel who made the attack, and not Hamas...
BlueAlpaca
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wow, wow, wow:
The new conspiracy says that it was Israel who made the attack, and not Hamas...
Look at the community note here (and disgusting comments):
Edit: It doesn't show up so here:
The reason those people deny atrocities isn't because they're good truth seeking humans but the exact opposite - not only enough to celebrate the slaughter but they go further and claim innocence and accuse the victim of deception. If they ever see one of these crimes with their own eyes and can never lie, they'll just say 'good.' That's the truth, that's who they are. I'd like to believe they're only stupid, unfortunatley I doubt it's only that.
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Oceania is at war with Eastasia. Oceania had always been at war with Eastasia.
nush
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That’s because all Jews are white. /s
CharmingCharlie
Member
Next up "it was all crisis actors". Jesus we have actual video footage of the slaughter carried out by those Hamas pigs. Isn't t odd though that anything the palestinians say is taking as 100% the truth and everything Israel says is considered 100% a lie or fake news. Odd that
near
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There is a deliberate battle taking place on social spaces to win hearts and minds. It isn't healthy at all. I've also been guilty of reading something and believing it without fact checking, I've now become more careful with sourcing news and information.
Cyberpunkd
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Eliminating at ethnic Jewish state that was created as a result of atrocities of WW2 and what Jews have been working towards since the end of the 19th century is not antisemitic?
LordOfChaos
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Hero of Spielberg
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In Australia we had Palestinians chanting ‘gas the Jews’, celebrations on the street following the attack that were joined by prominent Islamic leaders and Palestinian journalists on our National broadcaster refusing to acknowledge much of what had happened, let alone condemn it. The police even told Jewish people to stay home as they couldn’t guarantee their safety and even arrested a man for carrying an Israeli flag, yet somehow the narrative that continues to be pushed is that Arabs are unfairly persecuted in Australia…
Tomeru
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You can clearly see what is blood and what is just some pink coloring. Who does these community notes and how can one add or change those?
StreetsofBeige
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One thing in common you see with anti-Jewish countries is typically a bad government, shaky economy and lots of unemployment.
If any countries want to diminish hatred (and that assumes they even want to which it seems they don’t), is funnel that money to good education and jobs.
It’ll keep people busy, have a career to focus on and they’ll spend less time praying and hating and focusing on religious zealotism.
When you got something to do, you got less time being angry reading and listening to dumb shit. That’s why a lot of parents want their kids in after school activities. Keeps them busy, have fun and less time staring at dumb shit on the net. These families can be religious too, but it’ll be more muted and not mobs of people in the middle of the day angrily protesting. When you’re in school or working all day, you got no time for that shit.
If any countries want to diminish hatred (and that assumes they even want to which it seems they don’t), is funnel that money to good education and jobs.
It’ll keep people busy, have a career to focus on and they’ll spend less time praying and hating and focusing on religious zealotism.
When you got something to do, you got less time being angry reading and listening to dumb shit. That’s why a lot of parents want their kids in after school activities. Keeps them busy, have fun and less time staring at dumb shit on the net. These families can be religious too, but it’ll be more muted and not mobs of people in the middle of the day angrily protesting. When you’re in school or working all day, you got no time for that shit.
LordOfChaos
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You start by rating notes and then if you get enough I guess "being right" points as in you're siding with truth, you can start to write them.
I think I have all note abilities now. What can I suggest? If someone writes a good one I'll put my lot in
ChuckeRearmed
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Muslims tend to side with each other due to shared faith unconditionally. It is quite common in religious communities in general. Within more secular western world, there is less unity as - due to history - the western world relies more on law, investigations, proofs etc. Which is not the case for religious populations. Sure, they might hate each other within the same group, but they will be unified against the foreign threat.
You can't win in the fight like this. It is a shame of course, but oh well I think it will be more a problem for minorities and women on the west, but they support that anyway so...
Jews tend to be associated with banks, governments, rich people, merchants etc. And hating people who are more well off than you is a quite common thing.
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