TheInfamousKira
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Yeah, that dude couldn't cook people for shit.
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Yeah, that dude couldn't cook people for shit.
DelireMan7
Member
XD French mistake. I let it uncorrected for the fun
cormack12
Gold Member
They said that FEDRA drove them all underground into the tunnels and basically just left them.
That's why Joel was dubious about Henry's informant (FEDRA agent) saying that the particular tunnel they were gonna use was empty.
TheInfamousKira
Reseterror Resettler
XD French mistake. I let it uncorrected for the fun
I can't help myself when I see good (terrible) joke potential.
FunkMiller
Gold Member
Better, and better, and better. Fantastic episode.
I really am amazed at how much of the game is making it into the series.
I really am amazed at how much of the game is making it into the series.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
My only complaint so far from this show was Kathleen's casting. But episode 5 gave us a new perspective which helped me understand why they hired her.
She seems out of place in Episode 4 and didn't look like a leader of the resistance at all ... and it was revealed in Episode 5 that it was intentional. She was never meant to be the leader. Her brother was the leader, and she merely replaced him with revenge as her only driving force.
Episode 5 might actually be most favorite episode so far.
She seems out of place in Episode 4 and didn't look like a leader of the resistance at all ... and it was revealed in Episode 5 that it was intentional. She was never meant to be the leader. Her brother was the leader, and she merely replaced him with revenge as her only driving force.
Episode 5 might actually be most favorite episode so far.
Insane Metal
Member
Good episode. But I don't know, it's a good show for sure, but I think it's overrated.
Tomi
Member
10/10
E-Cat
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Dorohedoro
Member
This episode was already great with the Sam and Henry stuff which was just as heartbreaking, as expected, but when the truck crashed and all hell broke loose... just brilliant. And the bloater was dope on its own, then they went ahead and added that death scene from the game as the cherry on top, perfection. The intensity of the whole setpiece was taken up a few notches and easily better than the game's version. I was one of the skeptics of Bella Ramsey as Ellie but she's growing on me. Her reaction to Henry killing himself was very well done. The child clicker was interesting, wonder why infected kid enemies have never been a thing until now. I'm guessing they didn't want any bullshit drama or whatever but I'm pretty sure Days Gone had them and no one cared. Neil Druckmann was like "Why didn't I think of that?" in the behind the scenes interviews regarding a lot of Craig Mazin's ideas for the show so maybe in TLoU3.
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Slothbeing1209
Member
Some random thoughts.
The pile of corpses in Episode 4 might be the group Kathleen killed in Episode 5.
Those infecteds might be Ish group. They have kid clickers : O
The first person Henry kill is Sam.
The pile of corpses in Episode 4 might be the group Kathleen killed in Episode 5.
Those infecteds might be Ish group. They have kid clickers : O
The first person Henry kill is Sam.
Ryuji Goda
Member
Didn’t the kids get killed? (“they didn’t suffer”)
VaultBoy101
Member
ELEVENTY-ONE/10
Slothbeing1209
Member
Joel said when at Ish place :" Maybe they didn't follow the rules and they all got infected."
Edit: ohhhh you said about the story in the game, forgot about that lol. Yeah maybe but the show didn't show that.
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Signal Rockets
Banned
It's Sunday, so it's time to prepare for HBO. 
ComputerBlue
Member
Just finished the latest episode, best one of the season so far, easily. I knew it was coming but it still killed me, incredible performances all around.
ShadowNate
Member
It was another good episode. Very tense at parts, with a good story to tell.
Although I do now hope they move away from the formula of "here's a couple of interesting characters, oh they're dead now, hope you enjoyed the one episode with them".
I did not like the scene where the infected attack. And something bothered me about the CGI of the bloater. Also in that scene there was weird editing, too much confusion, some scenes did not make sense but seemingly were there for dramatic effect, and I was left wondering how did almost everyone else die but the protagonists (well except the one I guess).
The rest of the episode was fine. Kathleen's reasoning was fine. The specific performance still seemed to be lacking something. I feel like this kind of performance could work very well, her sounding like a kindergarden teacher while being cruel, avenging and cold blooded. But... it mostly didn't work like that at all -- maybe in a couple of occasions there was a glimpse of that.
Anyway that's that I guess. Reset and moving on.
Although I do now hope they move away from the formula of "here's a couple of interesting characters, oh they're dead now, hope you enjoyed the one episode with them".
I did not like the scene where the infected attack. And something bothered me about the CGI of the bloater. Also in that scene there was weird editing, too much confusion, some scenes did not make sense but seemingly were there for dramatic effect, and I was left wondering how did almost everyone else die but the protagonists (well except the one I guess).
The rest of the episode was fine. Kathleen's reasoning was fine. The specific performance still seemed to be lacking something. I feel like this kind of performance could work very well, her sounding like a kindergarden teacher while being cruel, avenging and cold blooded. But... it mostly didn't work like that at all -- maybe in a couple of occasions there was a glimpse of that.
Anyway that's that I guess. Reset and moving on.
Mibu no ookami
Demoted Member® Pro™
It's takes like this that I seriously don't understand.
First, there's no formula here... did you play the game? The only person that has died that didn't in the games was Bill.
As for the infected attack, that's pretty much received universal praise. It was really well done, but somehow you were confused (when no one else was) and so it was bad? That's odd.
I think Kathleen was fine, but it's whatever. Not necessarily going to defend the performance or the direction .
As for why everyone died but them... first you said it yourself that one of them did in fact die from that. Second everyone else was actively fighting the infected, and Joel was the furthest from the infected. The other person can't get infected. So really Henry was the only one that was at risk here who made it out unscathed to that point. Ellie had a close encounter with one but was actively being helped by Joel the whole time. To a degree so were Henry and Sam. No one else had a sniper protecting them... Such an odd criticism when it is entirely plausible.
Giallo Corsa
Member
I'm gonna get murdered for this but...I'm not feeling the show at all, acting is OK at best , nothing earth shattering (especially for an HBO production), the set-pieces are...again, "OK" and dare I say somewhat cheap looking and the changes to the script unneded.
All in all , it somehow feels like the walking dead production wise - uneven acting, cinematography and production values included, there's none of that HBO magic® that characterizes (most) of its shows like good cinematography, brilliant acting etc etc, the whole thing for me feels cheap for a lack of a better word for such an expensive show/production - especially after Chernobyl , Boardwalk empire, the wire, Succession, True detective, Carneyvale , sharp objects, band of brothers and so on so forth.
Bella Ramsey is A-OK and fits the role well, Pedro on the other hand I just don't know and the whole Bill love story/background, while well acted (amazing chemistry between the 2 characters), was completely unneeded as a change - same with chubby resistance leader Melanie Lanskey which...yeah, didn't add anything of value to the whole thing.
Maybe it really is the best video game adaptation so far but I find the whole thing to be way, way overhyped - especially since this is from HBO and the guy that wrote Chernobyl.
All in all , it somehow feels like the walking dead production wise - uneven acting, cinematography and production values included, there's none of that HBO magic® that characterizes (most) of its shows like good cinematography, brilliant acting etc etc, the whole thing for me feels cheap for a lack of a better word for such an expensive show/production - especially after Chernobyl , Boardwalk empire, the wire, Succession, True detective, Carneyvale , sharp objects, band of brothers and so on so forth.
Bella Ramsey is A-OK and fits the role well, Pedro on the other hand I just don't know and the whole Bill love story/background, while well acted (amazing chemistry between the 2 characters), was completely unneeded as a change - same with chubby resistance leader Melanie Lanskey which...yeah, didn't add anything of value to the whole thing.
Maybe it really is the best video game adaptation so far but I find the whole thing to be way, way overhyped - especially since this is from HBO and the guy that wrote Chernobyl.
Freeza93
Banned
because its garbage.
A show what is considered great today. Was mediocre at best 15 years ago.
Shit 1 episode of the wire or the sopranos has more story than this whole show, ever.
kittoo
Cretinously credulous
It's Sunday, so it's time to prepare for HBO.
Not sure if you missed it, but this episode released on Friday itself to avoid clash with Superbowl.
Moriah20
Member
not feeling the crazy praise for this episode.
Kathleen was as dumb as she seemed the last episode, just an overall unconvincing character. There was not a single moment of her leadership that seemed to be particularly smart or good, yet she apparently managed to have a stronghold over an entire militia in a post apocalyptic setting... yeah no. The actress was done dirty too, some of her dialogue was extremely corny.
I enjoyed the changes made to the show compared to the game mostly until this point but i felt that the huge action scene was a straight downgrade. Hot take, but so far im not impressed with the action scenes at all in the show in general. Ep 3 had Bill the prepper, gun enthusiast, hunter stand in the middle of the street sniping the raiders like an absolute moron, and this ep just felt like too many convenient things at play. I liked the idea of hell breaking loose but it just felt... clunky in ways that something like westworld did a lot of the times. Also, i dunno, but I really felt that they should've just cut to black after Henry shoots himself, felt like the burial scene actually took away some of the impact of that moment.
Kathleen was as dumb as she seemed the last episode, just an overall unconvincing character. There was not a single moment of her leadership that seemed to be particularly smart or good, yet she apparently managed to have a stronghold over an entire militia in a post apocalyptic setting... yeah no. The actress was done dirty too, some of her dialogue was extremely corny.
I enjoyed the changes made to the show compared to the game mostly until this point but i felt that the huge action scene was a straight downgrade. Hot take, but so far im not impressed with the action scenes at all in the show in general. Ep 3 had Bill the prepper, gun enthusiast, hunter stand in the middle of the street sniping the raiders like an absolute moron, and this ep just felt like too many convenient things at play. I liked the idea of hell breaking loose but it just felt... clunky in ways that something like westworld did a lot of the times. Also, i dunno, but I really felt that they should've just cut to black after Henry shoots himself, felt like the burial scene actually took away some of the impact of that moment.
Melfice7
Member
Thats how it is in the game with amazing music, was disappointed that it had no music in the show
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Mibu no ookami
Demoted Member® Pro™
The problem is you conflate two different things.
Kathleen lead an already organized group and turned their methods more aggressive after her brother died. Does every leader need to be smart or good? They had a militia and her mistakes cost them to lose the city they took within a fortnight.
The entire point of her character is that she was ill-equipped to lead.
You look at comparisons like with Japan towards the end of WW2 and not surrendering earlier even though they knew they couldn't win. History is filled with similar types of leadership examples.
You're missing the larger themes here which is that we continue to focus on the wrong thing and even towards the end she was focused on killing Henry and co. rather than the clicker behind her.
I feel like there's a segment here who played the games (missed the themes of the game) and are missing the themes here.
I agree that the action scenes up to this point have been lackluster though. I think they're going for a broad audience, and they realize that a lot of people would tune out if they go too gory or show straight up suicide of a character. They're also trusting that people can fill in the blanks without direct imagery. You're the second person who suggested the burial scene took away from the impact of the moment, but that doesn't make any sense. They were their friends, obviously they would bury them given the chance. They didn't have that chance with Tess, Bill, or Frank, but they did here.
I think too many people expect them to show "gameplay" or don't understand where the show will do things that the games couldn't lest it be packed with even more cutscenes.
Tchu-Espresso
likes mayo on everthing and can't dance
Internet badass alert.
Freeza93
Banned
im 12 years old alert
Vick
Gold Member
Sam's little board killed me for the entire episode. He was adorable in this show.holy shit this episode broke me. I knew whats coming but goddamn. I wasy crying way before it happened
By the end I was teary eyed (still am thinking about it actually) and my fiancée bawling.
Edit:
I wasn't sarcastic
Represent.
, ffs. 
I (poorly) meant that I found the little man using the board extra adorable. Everything about him was in fact, the superheroes stuff, his interactions with Henry etc. etc. and knowing what was going to happen for the entire episode killed me.
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Tchu-Espresso
likes mayo on everthing and can't dance
Makes sense. You should probably begin each post with that disclaimer from now on.
Save everyone the trouble.
struggler_guts
Member
Regardless of everything else, their makeup/practical effects team is KILLING it
FunkMiller
Gold Member
Second. The cordyceps fungus changes you over different stages, so you go from runner, to clicker, to bloater, to…. something nasty underneath a hospital.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Great episode, I just think they set it up to lose a lot of dramaic effect by having the "children die" speech. Really wish that wasn't there.
Mrs bawled her eyes out....mission accomplished.
Mrs bawled her eyes out....mission accomplished.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
I don't think that it's just that your fat, I always got the idea that it's like layers of armour, years and years of fungus growing creating this large shell with the host bloating out as its absorbing all whatever it needs to become sir tankalot.
mitchman
Gold Member
In the game, they were the same age.
Muay Ninja
Member
Maybe I'm in the minority here but, while I do like the show, it lacks that final punch of brutality.
geary
Member
Kinda feel the same. I really don't see the masterpiece in this, compared with the tv shows you mentioned above. The story progression have been seen in nth movies before. Nothing special about it or about the acting.
Warablo
Member
Probably this seasons best episode so far.
I agree, but still think its good fun for a video game adaptation. Overly heavy on the drama though.
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Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Dragging a dead body on the streets that was earlier used for knife target practice for fun, ripping a guy's head off, and shooting a 10-year-old kid in the head isn't brutal enough for you?
Ok-ish episode no5.
The housewife leader started out as a completely uninteresting character and remained completely uninteresting until the end.
The big monster was useless and embarassingly badly done.
With each new episode, everything feels cheaper and cheaper in terms of production.
Seriously questionable directing decisions, like exchanging looks from half a click away or cheap 80s style fake slow mo, really drags down the quality of the scenes.
The little boy arc was much better than in the game. It actually serves a purpose here, showing Ellie as a compassionate character, which the game failed to accomplish in a convincing manner.
The housewife leader started out as a completely uninteresting character and remained completely uninteresting until the end.
The big monster was useless and embarassingly badly done.
With each new episode, everything feels cheaper and cheaper in terms of production.
Seriously questionable directing decisions, like exchanging looks from half a click away or cheap 80s style fake slow mo, really drags down the quality of the scenes.
The little boy arc was much better than in the game. It actually serves a purpose here, showing Ellie as a compassionate character, which the game failed to accomplish in a convincing manner.
Episode 5 is where the magic was lost for me. The plot works much better as a video game where the player is experiencing everything themselves. The novelty of the game is playing through what feels like a movie. It was the marriage of high production, realistic acting, and decent gameplay that made TLOU amazing. Remove any of the three and the game would not have been as impactful.
The show's production and storytelling are not enough to compensate for the lack of gameplay and uneven acting. The shot for shot remake of setpieces from the game isn't helping the show capture its own identity either. It's watchable but not as good as I would like it to be.
The show's production and storytelling are not enough to compensate for the lack of gameplay and uneven acting. The shot for shot remake of setpieces from the game isn't helping the show capture its own identity either. It's watchable but not as good as I would like it to be.