I thought he wasn't limp, just trouble finishing.
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coffinbirth
Member
NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
Biggest Trails Stan
Ohhhh you mean where he's having sex with that prostitute and they stopped having sex? I forgot about that. I watched it when I'm pretty tired though lol
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coffinbirth
Member
Yup, haha. That was my take anyways. Kikkis above said they thought it was a finishing issue, which is also a possibility.
NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
Biggest Trails Stan
Yeah I watched this episode when I'm super tired lol
coffinbirth
Member
Same, but I, ahem, perked up for that scene.
nkarafo
Member
Dragons were the least interesting thing about GOT, imo. I was more interested about all the schemes and the dynamics between the different houses.
Sure, dragons added something to those dynamics since they made a certain camp so overpowered but still, im not that interested about the fancy looking stuff anymore, guess i'm too old to be impressed.
Sure, dragons added something to those dynamics since they made a certain camp so overpowered but still, im not that interested about the fancy looking stuff anymore, guess i'm too old to be impressed.
GulfCoastZilla
Member
Only bit of cgi that made me be like “oh that’s bad” was when the dragon set fire to the pyres. Otherwise everything looked great.
Sunday nights are back for me. Hearing all the old phrases like milk of the poppy, the vale, Hightower and then the game of thrones theme in some dragon language i can’t even understand. I’m back.
Sunday nights are back for me. Hearing all the old phrases like milk of the poppy, the vale, Hightower and then the game of thrones theme in some dragon language i can’t even understand. I’m back.
V1LÆM
Gold Member
just watched it. i really liked it. i haven't read the book it's based so have no idea what is going to happen. i love Matt Smith and I like his character. can't wait to see what he gets up to!
the cgi is fine. not great but whatever. the wigs annoy me more lol. Matt's kinda looks OK but the king dude's is awful.
aww man i hate having to wait a week for a new episode but at the same time it makes shows more enjoyable.
the cgi is fine. not great but whatever. the wigs annoy me more lol. Matt's kinda looks OK but the king dude's is awful.
aww man i hate having to wait a week for a new episode but at the same time it makes shows more enjoyable.
It's was decent. So long as you don't watch soponick and the show runners little end cap where they stumble over each other trying to out feminist themselves (really, pregnancy, aka the propagation OF THE SPECIES, is something "men force unto women"?).
As usual the more subtle points of GRRMs plotting is lost on these guys. They say a girl shouldnt be the heir, then they immediately turn back to "the queen that never was" as a viable option....uh guys? Girrrllllll? My takeaway from the bit covered in the "Dangerous Women" anthology (that story looks to detail this entire series( is the problem was Rhyneraes was just a little kid at the time,Ike 7, and then
Anyway, just little things mostly. Love Otto throwing his teen daughter out there.
Corlys makes no sense. His kids with Rhyana are clearly mixed, but he also appears to be a "full blooded" Valerian. WTF? How did he keep his dark skin but get the white hair? He should have just been an outsider noble from the Summer Isles or whatever.
And they undercut themselves AGAIN when the girls IMMEDIATELY call out the dornish knight based in his looks which are.....just like everyone else.
Liked the line establishing gender and sex though, wonder if they are gonna take heat for it.
As usual the more subtle points of GRRMs plotting is lost on these guys. They say a girl shouldnt be the heir, then they immediately turn back to "the queen that never was" as a viable option....uh guys? Girrrllllll? My takeaway from the bit covered in the "Dangerous Women" anthology (that story looks to detail this entire series( is the problem was Rhyneraes was just a little kid at the time,Ike 7, and then
when Visyres finally dies 25 years later he now has several male heirs that could trump her from his second wife
Anyway, just little things mostly. Love Otto throwing his teen daughter out there.
Corlys makes no sense. His kids with Rhyana are clearly mixed, but he also appears to be a "full blooded" Valerian. WTF? How did he keep his dark skin but get the white hair? He should have just been an outsider noble from the Summer Isles or whatever.
And they undercut themselves AGAIN when the girls IMMEDIATELY call out the dornish knight based in his looks which are.....just like everyone else.
Liked the line establishing gender and sex though, wonder if they are gonna take heat for it.
Billbofet
Member
As someone who did not read any of the GoT books, I thought this was pretty solid. It felt like GoT, but I do hope some more interesting characters bubble up to the top.
The dude that plays the King's hand, to me, was the most interesting so far. The character played by Matt Smith is okay despite being played by Matt Smith (human black hole of charisma).
The CGI was a bit all over the place, but nothing that took me out of the show.
I'll keep watching for sure.
The dude that plays the King's hand, to me, was the most interesting so far. The character played by Matt Smith is okay despite being played by Matt Smith (human black hole of charisma).
The CGI was a bit all over the place, but nothing that took me out of the show.
I'll keep watching for sure.
AJUMP23
Parody of actual AJUMP23
They said less sex and violence......That was a lie.
I liked that it opens with a Gold Dragon. That was cool I liked the gold dragon. I need more dragons.
I didn't get how they were having a jousting tournament and then randomly a bunch of knights start killing each other. Then back to jousting.
I liked that it opens with a Gold Dragon. That was cool I liked the gold dragon. I need more dragons.
I didn't get how they were having a jousting tournament and then randomly a bunch of knights start killing each other. Then back to jousting.
Hari Seldon
Member
I'd say 65 metacritic is about right for this. Super middling. I'll give it more time because it did get better at the end. But if this is just King's Landing politics without all of the other shit that made the OG great then I doubt I will bother finishing this season. I was scrolling on my phone through large parts of this episode due to how boring it was.
Revolutionary
Member
Am I the only one that thought the title drop was bad? It wasn't as bad as Suicide Squad but... it's in the same ballpark.
'So we some kinda Song of Ice and Fire, huh?'
'So we some kinda Song of Ice and Fire, huh?'
Probably because Sonoya Mizuno's bony ass was stabbing his pelvis with every thrust.
thegame983
Member
Thought it was pretty good. The best part of GOT was all the kings' landing politics so if there's more of that then I'm game
thegame983
Member
This.
For me GOT was at its best during the small council meetings. I couldn't care less about the spectacle.
IDKFA
I am Become Bilbo Baggins
Lots of people have said this.
Makes me wonder why nobody makes an actual TV series about the real, historical English civil war known as the War of Roses.
ASOIAF is just a fantasy version of this war. However, the real story is filled with more drama, back stabbing, conflict and violence.
Hari Seldon
Member
As I suspected, the politics of this show are fucking terrible without Tyrion and Littlefinger. Just a snorefest chatting about fictional characters who I give no fucks about yet.
geary
Member
The House of Dragon is also based on real life events, more precisely The Anarchy, which was a civil war in England and Normandy between 1138 and 1153.
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AJUMP23
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Are you talking House of Normandy and William the Conqueror, or the Plantagenets?
BadBurger
Many “Whelps”! Handle It!
They literally showed a chubby girl's bunghole
That's already a step above the competition
Bragr
Banned
These fucking wigs...
It looks like they bought 40 wigs from Walmart for 3 bucks per piece. I laughed out loud 2 times already with how dumb it looks on some of the actors.
I don't know what to make of the show yet, it's nowhere near GoT, but it might be fine, I gotta see how the drama develops. But, GoT spent the first season making characters we enjoy, here it's more rushed and weaker casting. I don't like anyone they showed in the first episode. Everyone feels nameless and random. When it feels like they could switch out the entire cast with other actors and it wouldn't matter, it's an issue. The only one who comes off as owning their role is the princess dragon-riding girl.
Also, it might be because I am foreign, but I can't catch half the content in the sentences spoken. it's like they are talking too fast or have quiet voices or something. Bad mixing? I usually don't have this issue.
It looks like they bought 40 wigs from Walmart for 3 bucks per piece. I laughed out loud 2 times already with how dumb it looks on some of the actors.
I don't know what to make of the show yet, it's nowhere near GoT, but it might be fine, I gotta see how the drama develops. But, GoT spent the first season making characters we enjoy, here it's more rushed and weaker casting. I don't like anyone they showed in the first episode. Everyone feels nameless and random. When it feels like they could switch out the entire cast with other actors and it wouldn't matter, it's an issue. The only one who comes off as owning their role is the princess dragon-riding girl.
Also, it might be because I am foreign, but I can't catch half the content in the sentences spoken. it's like they are talking too fast or have quiet voices or something. Bad mixing? I usually don't have this issue.
IDKFA
I am Become Bilbo Baggins
True. George does like taking his inspiration from English history.
Personally, I find The Anarchy is a lot less interesting and less epic than the Wars of the Roses. The Anarchy was a long war of attrition with some minor skirmishes along the way. However, the version in the show is all sorts of epic, at least as portrayed in Fire and Blood anyway.
The War of the Roses was an absolute meat grinder with political scheming above anything seen in The Anarchy or ASOIAF for that matter.
geary
Member
The civil war after the death of William Adelin
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
I have to compare this to the first episode of Game of Thrones which didnt have much action or drama. Mostly character introductions and character development.
But that first episode ended on such an amazing once in a generation note that this new show simply cannot compare. You cant top doggy style incest with a child being thrown out the window. Just cant do it. But otherwise, I thought in terms of drama, story, and character development, this was top notch television. Im currently catching up on Better Call Saul after a 4 year haitus and Season 4 felt like a stop gap show where nothing really happens. It's still well written, well acted with some great character moments, but nothing major happens in that entire season. I feel like a lot happened in this episode despite them only covering Kings Landing.
Yes, the actress is ugly but she grew on me. Matt Smith killed it. Always liked him in the Crown. CG of Kings Landing and Dragons flying was excellent. Tits were lacking. GoT had some gorgeous women getting naked every five minutes. This feels like they went out of their way to cast the ugliest tits lol.
But that first episode ended on such an amazing once in a generation note that this new show simply cannot compare. You cant top doggy style incest with a child being thrown out the window. Just cant do it. But otherwise, I thought in terms of drama, story, and character development, this was top notch television. Im currently catching up on Better Call Saul after a 4 year haitus and Season 4 felt like a stop gap show where nothing really happens. It's still well written, well acted with some great character moments, but nothing major happens in that entire season. I feel like a lot happened in this episode despite them only covering Kings Landing.
Yes, the actress is ugly but she grew on me. Matt Smith killed it. Always liked him in the Crown. CG of Kings Landing and Dragons flying was excellent. Tits were lacking. GoT had some gorgeous women getting naked every five minutes. This feels like they went out of their way to cast the ugliest tits lol.
Elysion
Banned
Yeah, one big aspect of GoT was its sprawling, globe-spanning nature and sense of adventure. Sure, there was lots of politicking in King‘s Landing, but if someone didn’t like that storyline then there was also Dany‘s journey in Essos, or Jon‘s adventures beyond the Wall, or Arya‘s story in Braavos etc. Even if someone didn’t like one particular storyline, there was a good chance they liked one of the others, since each of them had different tones and focused on different aspects; there was something for everyone.
HotD on the other hand is focused almost entirely on King‘s Landing and the struggle for the throne. There is no Jon equivalent who travels beyond the Wall and encounters the White Walkers, or a Dany-like character through whose eyes we explore the exotic east, or a Bran who delves into visions and magic. It‘s 100% politics and war, and while that is exciting for a lot of people, a significant part of GoT‘s audience cared more for some of the other stuff I mentioned.
I think this is why HBO initially intended to do a show during the Age of Heroes and the first Long Night (it was called ‚Bloodmoon‘ I believe), taking place thousands of years before GoT, since it would‘ve given them much more freedom to have all kinds of different characters and storylines.
I agree; even Daenerys‘ wig in GoT never looked right. It shouldn’t be that hard, there are people with platinum blonde hair in real life after all, and they don‘t look nearly as weird.
PaddyOCanager
Member
It was fine. The show has a long way to go if it hopes to resurrect the corpse of this franchise. This first episode really didn't establish a hook to continue watching. If they had stuck the landing with GoT, this episode probably would've been hype. Instead, references in this show to things established in GoT just rang hollow.
I was hoping there would be a standout character to latch onto, but no one stood out. The music just felt like a GoT remix, I was disappointed we didn't get a new epic theme or something. The show looks decent, except for some eyesore CGI. I'll keep watching, but it's whatever.
I was hoping there would be a standout character to latch onto, but no one stood out. The music just felt like a GoT remix, I was disappointed we didn't get a new epic theme or something. The show looks decent, except for some eyesore CGI. I'll keep watching, but it's whatever.
Lukaku's First Touch
Member
Saw it today and thought it was really good, good acting but that 'evil' brother is ugly as sin. Looks like a dragon himself.
AJUMP23
Parody of actual AJUMP23
Matt Smith.....He is one of the best Doctor Who's ever. but he is ugly.
Werewolf Jones
Member
So what you're saying is that if we don't have a fantasy equivalent of Deadpool then politics are boring? Damn who knew.
SkylineRKR
Member
I give E1 a 4/5.
Its just everything I could ask of it. Doesn't show all its cards yet, but a good build up of the key characters of house Targaryen imo. Matt Smith was stellar, he's just perfect for a evil motherfucker. I wonder how deranged Daemon's going to end up. Action was good as well, I liked the tournament.
I don't mind if this focuses on King's Landing and the Iron Throne. I don't mind if there are no white walkers either.
Was GoT E1 better? Absolutely. The opening with Ned. And later Jaime and Cersei, Tyrion, just everything about it was perfect and drew me in at the snap of a finger (I started watching when S2 was about to be wrapped). But yeah I can't wait for House E2 either.
Its just everything I could ask of it. Doesn't show all its cards yet, but a good build up of the key characters of house Targaryen imo. Matt Smith was stellar, he's just perfect for a evil motherfucker. I wonder how deranged Daemon's going to end up. Action was good as well, I liked the tournament.
I don't mind if this focuses on King's Landing and the Iron Throne. I don't mind if there are no white walkers either.
Was GoT E1 better? Absolutely. The opening with Ned. And later Jaime and Cersei, Tyrion, just everything about it was perfect and drew me in at the snap of a finger (I started watching when S2 was about to be wrapped). But yeah I can't wait for House E2 either.
SirKicksalot
Member
Lmao at the night scenes. Really overcompensated after that night battle criticism. Some ISO 128000 shots here lol
negator2vc
Member
It was fine, just fine. Okish pilot.
I liked the politics which was always the strong suit of GoT.
Unfortunately the mediocre casting, the WTF tournament - brawl!, those crap wigs (very distracting especially on the main cast) didn't help.
Neither did the references near the end of the episode about GoT events that any fan know end up meaningless!
I liked the politics which was always the strong suit of GoT.
Unfortunately the mediocre casting, the WTF tournament - brawl!, those crap wigs (very distracting especially on the main cast) didn't help.
Neither did the references near the end of the episode about GoT events that any fan know end up meaningless!
LaughingStock
Member
It's the wig. I googled her name, Emma D'Arcy, and she looks ok without it. She's a they/them by the way.
Werewolf Jones
Member
No anime characters (Arya Stark)
No Family Guy characters (Tyrion Lannister)
Game of Thrones might be able to save itself if they keep this quality up. I was happy with it and it kept me engaged.
No Family Guy characters (Tyrion Lannister)
Game of Thrones might be able to save itself if they keep this quality up. I was happy with it and it kept me engaged.
Nobody_Important
“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
Really need to sit down and watch this tonight. Just got off a zoom call with the rest of my department and my boss said and I quote "That shit reeks of Season 1 GoT. Its that good."
First time I have heard him swear lol
First time I have heard him swear lol
Hari Seldon
Member
You need good characters to pull off a show like this. I give zero fucks who wins the succession battle right now. I am not impressed with any of the characters that they have introduced other than maybe Dr Who. Everyone else was generic and boring.
It did get better by the end tho. I’m going to give the last 20 mins a rewatch again tonight since my wife fell asleep, maybe I will warm up to it more.
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AJUMP23
Parody of actual AJUMP23
I'm going to need to see those Chromosomes.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Whelp, after watching it last night...
I was pleasantly surprised. It was not as bad as I thought it would be, and I feel they did a good job setting up the political focused plot, introducing the characters, and nice similarity queues/nods to their ancestors in GoT.
It has its hooks in me for next week's episode, that's for sure.
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Vaelka
Member
The first episode was good, I just hope it keeps it up.
It just makes it more annyoing and frustrating how obnoxiously the marketing is often handled with the '' muh politics/ I am changing the world '' shit.
Just let the show speak for itself...
Especially since it doesn't seem to even be as bad as you'd think based on the marketing.
It's so unnecessary..
It just makes it more annyoing and frustrating how obnoxiously the marketing is often handled with the '' muh politics/ I am changing the world '' shit.
Just let the show speak for itself...
Especially since it doesn't seem to even be as bad as you'd think based on the marketing.
It's so unnecessary..
NecrosaroIII
Ultimate DQ Fan
I liked the first episode quite a bit. Some interesting dynamics. I don't know anything about the books, but i was able to follow along pretty well. Really liked the main king dude. He seemed nice.
SkylineRKR
Member
I feel he's too nice. It will likely be his downfall. Like Cersei did to Ned, Daemon warned him also. Thats a huge red flag.
Nobody_Important
“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
If they are faithful to the books then yeah he would be too nice. Viserys wanted to keep everyone happy. He never wanted to offend anyone so he ended up frustrating everyone.
