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Hearthstone |OT4| The warsong has ended, please patron other decks
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Brode confirmed you'll get 1 excess mana if you play it while already at 10...
We argued about this on stream. I don't think it's that good. It's versatile but in every instance you use it, it's either a weak answer or weak aggression. Unless you're running Token Mage you don't have any good targets to use it aggressively and it is significantly worse than regular Polymorph as removal. I would compare it to something like Starfall. Starfall is either weak single target removal or a weak board clear. It is very versitle, but each time you use it it is a weak play.
Haunted
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Only at 10 and you still discard your hand? meh.
That does make the card less useful. At least Wild Growth gets some value out even at 10 mana.
crazygambit
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I agree on Polymorph Boar, I think it's super good and gonna be a staple in mage decks. Effigy I'm more cautious with. I don't think it's all that good, since it can't activate on your turn, so your opponent gets to choose what to kill. It's too easy to play around it. For it to be really good, you need to run a higher mana curve for minions, which I don't know if it's feasible (it won't be).
Polymorph Board is also a card. It's a 6 mana common, didn't you hear?
Haunted
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Finally the Arcane Explosion value I've been waiting for!
Haunted
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Arcane Golem into Polymorph Boar for 8 dmg.
Super Nothing
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I just switched out Freezing Trap for Explosive Trap. I think the traps should be based more on what you're facing regularly rather than whether you're running Face or Midrange.
Another 8 damage charge combo cheaper than King Krush!
crazygambit
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Maybe, but I would argue Explosive is much better in face than in midrange. In face the extra 2 damage is critical in a race and it's pretty much the only tool the deck has for board control.
Midrange isn't about the damage race, you're not hero powering every turn like on face hunter and you have a lot more tools for board control, so unless you're seeing 80% aggro it seems like a waste of a slot to me.
Edit: By the time I would want to play Explosive, I'd almost always rather have a Belcher in my hand against aggro anyway. The extra mana to play a Wolf Rider of hero power isn't all that relevant in midrange IMO.
Mobius and pet octopus
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This is an all rogue card list. Could be fun. Probably is weak. But could be fun. Could maybe mix in anubar ambusher to smooth the curve out a bit. Just threw it together without thinking about it much.
It's a kind of damage that is hard to see it coming and it's very versatile that you can reuse your minions to attack twice a turn or even three times to get that lethal.
With the burn spells mage has I feel it can make a strong face or tempo deck, more consistent than hunter. You don't need to have a beast to deal 6 face damage, your hero power can be way better than hunter, mid to late game, and there are a whole lot of nasty mage cards and secrets.
With the burn spells mage has I feel it can make a strong face or tempo deck, more consistent than hunter. You don't need to have a beast to deal 6 face damage, your hero power can be way better than hunter, mid to late game, and there are a whole lot of nasty mage cards and secrets.
Or like Starfall or Dark Wispers. Choose One cards are not always good.
crazygambit
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But this is costed appropriately though. There's no extra cost for the flexibility to use it as removal (other than it not being all that great removal, more like for emergencies).
So you agree that it is crappy removal for the cost, then?
It is also crappy aggression for the cost too. You don't want to target a substantial minion with this, it has to be something insubstantial, like a token.
rofl playing combo priest against a Warlock just now...
Warlock is at 19 health and in my hand all I have is Emperor, Mind Blast x2 and Velen. So I drop Emperor to set up lethal for next turn and unfortunately opponent drops Malganis.
So over the next 2 turns I drop whatever minion I draw and he's using his Malganis to clear them. I survive until the 3rd turn with 3 health left and he has a full board of minions... I have no way of clearing them... But he decides to show off thinking he had the game won and played a Void Terror next to his Malganis.
I never spammed "Thank you" so much.
Warlock is at 19 health and in my hand all I have is Emperor, Mind Blast x2 and Velen. So I drop Emperor to set up lethal for next turn and unfortunately opponent drops Malganis.
So over the next 2 turns I drop whatever minion I draw and he's using his Malganis to clear them. I survive until the 3rd turn with 3 health left and he has a full board of minions... I have no way of clearing them... But he decides to show off thinking he had the game won and played a Void Terror next to his Malganis.
I never spammed "Thank you" so much.
Forgot to say, played the most bizarre Hunter deck at about Level 17/18 the other day.
Pretty much face but the last turn was crazy.
His turn: Uses fiery war axe on my piloted shredder.
My turn: I taunt mad scientist.
His turn: He attacks mad scientist with FWA then plays Deathwing.
My turn: Mirror Entity activates from MS and I get Deathwing, Face.
No idea what sort of deck he was playing. It was a golden Deathwing as well.
Pretty much face but the last turn was crazy.
His turn: Uses fiery war axe on my piloted shredder.
My turn: I taunt mad scientist.
His turn: He attacks mad scientist with FWA then plays Deathwing.
My turn: Mirror Entity activates from MS and I get Deathwing, Face.
No idea what sort of deck he was playing. It was a golden Deathwing as well.
crazygambit
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Yes, if you could only play it on your opponent's minions, no one would run it. But that you have the option to, is certainly valuable. It would probably still see play if it could only target your own minions, since it's good aggression for the cost. Of course this is something you run in an aggro deck, but 4 damage for 3 on something your opponent has to spend time to kill is good. Using it on a minion at 1 health that already attack seems pretty good.
I know Im bothering you guys a lot with my Noob question, but I have more:
-Im almost at 20 in Druid, any other good Hero for a beginner?
-For the Druid I got a card that have the border gold colored and I have the same card but without this gold borders, what are the difference?
-Im almost at 20 in Druid, any other good Hero for a beginner?
-For the Druid I got a card that have the border gold colored and I have the same card but without this gold borders, what are the difference?
Starfall is 1/2 overcosted Consecrate. 1/2 overcosted Shadow Bolt.
Boar is actually undercosted Polymorph and similarly costed Arcane Golem.
Like Golem, you're not going to drop this in turn 3. It will be saved for lethal (in which case you don't care if you have to poly your Antonidas) or getting rid of a large taunt like Tirion, Chillmaw, Ancient of War, or Divine Spirited Bolf.
crazygambit
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I don't think Druid is all that good for beginners. The good Druid decks run lots of epics. I've never been able to play Druid because the decks are just too expensive to make.
If you don't have that many cards, aggro is almost always the answer. Hunter is good for that. Maybe Mage as well.
Gold cards just look cooler and have better animations. If you don't care about that, you can get a lot of dust out of them. I personally like to keep them, but I would never craft them since they're far too expensive.
Edit: However, do get a hero to level 20 as soon as possible (even if it's druid) so you can play Tavern Brawl. Every other week you get premade decks, so you won't be at a disadvantage against people with better collections. You get a pack for your first win every week. This week is premade decks so try to get on it.
Hover over the level progression bar druid (or any class). It'll show which golden classic card you unlock next. You unlock the golden version of classic cards by leveling up different classes. Your next golden for druid will be the second gold version of that card.
Mage and Hunter are good for beginners or a zoo warlock.
Huffer is great when it comes out of animal companion. But if you have to sacrifice a minion, than it is like an overcosted windfury. And Mage, while it has some aggressive decks, isn't really a FACE deck where a card like huffer excels anyway.
Gold cards are just cosmetic. They look nicer and some have little animations instead of static art.
The Grand Tournament officially arrives on August 24
http://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/blog/19843162/the-grand-tournament-arrives-august-24-8-19-2015
http://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/blog/19843162/the-grand-tournament-arrives-august-24-8-19-2015
BananasWithGuns
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Shocking news.
Trigger_happy
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I destroyed mage as a hunter... leaving Coldarra drake alive is so scary.
You said they would announce it during the stream. =P
I had to be a little bit wrong so you guys wouldn't know I'm actually from the future.
Storm Prelude
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BananasWithGuns
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I'm a bit surprised StriceCro is so high on Thunder Bluff Valiant. I'm sure it will be a fine card but the best in TGT? I don't know. I feel like it will be easy for your opponent to deny the value you get from it. Even now it's not uncommon for your opponent to target your totems and with the potential for them to be buffed I just don't see you building up a board of totems and surprising your opponent that often.
Certainly wouldn't mind if he was right though.
Certainly wouldn't mind if he was right though.
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