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Hearthstone |OT4| The warsong has ended, please patron other decks
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Holy fuck
Frost Giant decreases by 1 even in your deck
Amazing
Yeah damn that was a surprise. Though my spellslinger made a Mind Control for my opponent -.-'
1) You said they would announce it during the stream
2) You said the brawl would have decks for all 9 classes
2/10 would not listen to prophecies again
excellent hit rate
He did say "impactful," which might be true. I don't think Quartermaster was the best GvG card, but I think one could argue it's the most impactful, as it puts the fear of God in opponents when you play Muster or even just hero power.
Another comparison would be the combo for Druid: even if you don't have it in hand, people have to play as if you do. The existence of FoN/Savage Roar causes players to play very differently than they otherwise would. Perhaps something like that will happen for Thunder Bluff Valiant.
Joust is just very bad, you lose it you are dead here...
Inspire is actually quite strong here, now in a real game things will be different but if you leave a maiden alive even, you are dead.
Poly Boar, it's great as expected. It's over delivering that value! It can provide some strong swings.
Rhonin, well I could never find the board opportunity in 4 games I drew him to actually play him... it seems unwieldy as expected to me.
Lock and Load is cool but not in this deck they built, it's filled with big garbage drops rather than spells you can actually play along with LnL.
Skeleton Knight, yeah it's trash.
Inspire is actually quite strong here, now in a real game things will be different but if you leave a maiden alive even, you are dead.
Poly Boar, it's great as expected. It's over delivering that value! It can provide some strong swings.
Rhonin, well I could never find the board opportunity in 4 games I drew him to actually play him... it seems unwieldy as expected to me.
Lock and Load is cool but not in this deck they built, it's filled with big garbage drops rather than spells you can actually play along with LnL.
Skeleton Knight, yeah it's trash.
Problem is that it's Hunter trying to use Joust against a mid range-ish deck. We already established that Joust is better against Aggro and inconsistent against Midrange/control.
Neither of the decks are obviously fine tuned to the maximum. Like the Hunter deck is using Snipe and Skeleton Knight and the Mage deck is using Evil Heckler and Flamelance...
Neither of the decks are obviously fine tuned to the maximum. Like the Hunter deck is using Snipe and Skeleton Knight and the Mage deck is using Evil Heckler and Flamelance...
Minsc
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If you have 2 Flamewalkers on the board when you play them, a Mirror Image + 2x Polymorph Boar is good for 20 damage (24 with the walkers attacking) at 7 mana. It's not all that uncommon to see flamewalkers going beserk feeding off 3-4 spells a turn and clearing the opponent's board every round.
Edit: With an Apprentice you can pull it off turn 4 too, but getting both flamewalkers on the board that early would be more troublesome.
BananasWithGuns
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True, although I wonder, would Quartermaster even really be played if Muster for Battle wasn't a thing? That's sort of the best comparison to Valiant as Shaman doesn't have a good way to flood totems on to the board. Granted the buff from Valiant is permanent so it's a little more valuable in that respect but it's just hard to imagine it being as impactful as Quartermaster.
I also feel like, prior to GvG, people were more likely to let a Recruit sit on the board as opposed to something like a Wrath of Air Totem or Healing Totem so I'm not sold on Valiant making totems that much more of a priority kill target than they already were, where as Recruits essentially became public enemy number one after Quartermaster arrived on the scene.
I will certainly be testing out Thunder Bluff Valiant when the expansion drops but I'm just not as high on it as StrifeCro is I suppose. I certainly hope he's right though because it would be great for Shaman if Valiant was that impactful on the game.
Yea, really not feeling the hunter and joust in this brawl. They didn't balance the decks properly. It's typical agro vs very slow control and that plays out in favor of agro 80% of the time. Played 4 matches, 1 as hunter. Destroyed hunter 3 times as mage. The inspire mechanic snowballs out of control if you get early board control. I had one game with 2 Lowly Squires that they couldn't remove and they both got to be 5/2's. Also, Frost Giant is insanely easy to get out just by the tempo gains you get with some inspire.
What can you even mulligan for in the hunter deck to have even a shot at winning against mage in this? The dream for mage is Lowly squire and that 2/1 taunt turn 1 with coin (got it twice).
What can you even mulligan for in the hunter deck to have even a shot at winning against mage in this? The dream for mage is Lowly squire and that 2/1 taunt turn 1 with coin (got it twice).
The Mage deck isn't even aggro, it's Midrange at best. It's not like the Mage deck is finishing the game before turn 6.
The Hunter just has shitty control cards and thus can't actually contest the board very well... no matter what the Mage throws at him.
The Hunter is like some strange hybrid of Lock no Load spell heavy deck combined with Beasts and slow control and Jousting options. It's 3-4 different decks in one and fine tuned for none of them.
The Hunter just has shitty control cards and thus can't actually contest the board very well... no matter what the Mage throws at him.
The Hunter is like some strange hybrid of Lock no Load spell heavy deck combined with Beasts and slow control and Jousting options. It's 3-4 different decks in one and fine tuned for none of them.
TerminalDogma
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King's Elekk into Animal Companion.
King's Elekk dies to that 2/1 taunt, but yea, I didn't see much else early game other than Arcane Shot. Doesn't inspire much when the best card you can play to contest board control isn't until turn 3.
It plays very much like an agro deck early on, with the snowballing factor, but you're right, it has all these midrange cards. I had a hunter 60 quest saved for this too..now I wish I had a mage one, lol. Back to midrange hunter ranked.
Logged in to the Europe servers to try the brawl but I don't even have a lvl 20 hero yet.
I did find I have an active arena run, let's see...
I'm pretty sure Gadgetzan was 5 mana when I drafted him. Novice Engineer might've been a 1/2 as well. Blizzard pls. Will probably leave that run active for posterity.
My first or second arena run was a 12 win one as well:
EU pls.
I did find I have an active arena run, let's see...
I'm pretty sure Gadgetzan was 5 mana when I drafted him. Novice Engineer might've been a 1/2 as well. Blizzard pls. Will probably leave that run active for posterity.
My first or second arena run was a 12 win one as well:
EU pls.
BananasWithGuns
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Kotetsu534
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Lock and Load's visual effect is awesome. Worked out pretty well in my match too, as I'd saved the Coin and had two Arcane Shots (which led into a Quick Shot, a Call Pet and a Bestial Wrath). The Mage didn't seem to have any comeback mechanism after I took over the board (he missed turn 3).
Super Nothing
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I was thinking the same thing. People already clear totems just to deny Flame Tongue plays, so I don't see Thunder Bluff ever getting dropped onto a board with 3-4 totems. And Thunder Bluff is much slower than Quartermaster. You can play Muster on turn 3 and coin out Quartermaster on 4 and all of your Recruits immediately become 3/3s. You can play Thunder Bluff on turn 4 with the coin, but you can't hero power until the next turn. Maybe if you played Fencing Coach on turn 3, but then you're not going to have totems to buff.
Dream hand! 😱
I'm really enjoying playing Saarad. If it lives a turn you win the game and the effects are great. Production values overall seem way higher than things we got before.
And no, flame lance doesn't reuse flame cannon effect, it's brand new.
Acidmaw reuses Acidic Swamp Ooze effect though.
'Your mother was a murloc' wins the best play sound, that power creep! BBB stands no chance.
I'm really enjoying playing Saarad. If it lives a turn you win the game and the effects are great. Production values overall seem way higher than things we got before.
And no, flame lance doesn't reuse flame cannon effect, it's brand new.
Acidmaw reuses Acidic Swamp Ooze effect though.
'Your mother was a murloc' wins the best play sound, that power creep! BBB stands no chance.
JORMBO
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It's no where near as bad. This match up is 6-4 at worst.
When the Hunter gets the jousts going it gets really out of hand and they have more card advantage than the Mage in the late game plus better minion quality.
They just need to get their removals at the right time or else the Mage board can get out of control fast.
literally like 5 times. The Skeleton Knight came back to life multiple times.Nah, if players learn that 4 mana is less than 5 mana then it proved its usefulness. Game Design ;P
Sad about the updated art tho, that's a real shame. Damn you China and your Skellifobia.
I meant more in that Evil Heckler doesn't really synergize with the deck like most of the other cards in the deck do. Almost every other minion in that deck has some Inspire synergy.
I know what you mean (
like, if it loses you a joust you'd probably wish it was a BBB =D
Trigger_happy
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I don't think i want to include joust cards in my decks, it's so unreliable.
Minsc
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Just won 30-0 turn 5 as the Hunter, maybe it's not quite so horrible. Coined the 3/2 turn 1, followed by the same thing again turn 2, then Animal Companion, then that 5/3 charge guy turn 4, then another animal companion (huffer) + hero power brought them down to just 3 life and they conceded.
You are fucking miserable.
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