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Hearthstone |OT4| The warsong has ended, please patron other decks

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manhack

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Mysterious Challenger:

Summon a 9/8 minion
Summon a 2/1 minion
Deny an attack from your opponent
Reduce next minion played to 1 HP

Sounds fair

If I hadn't faced so many paladins in a row today I wouldn't be salty.

blech
 

zoukka

Member
Mysterious Challenger:

Summon a 9/8 minion
Summon a 2/1 minion
Deny an attack from your opponent
Reduce next minion played to 1 HP

Sounds fair

If I hadn't faced so many paladins in a row today I wouldn't be salty.

blech

Still not as bad as Dr. Boom
 
Mysterious Challenger:

Summon a 9/8 minion
Summon a 2/1 minion
Deny an attack from your opponent
Reduce next minion played to 1 HP

Sounds fair

If I hadn't faced so many paladins in a row today I wouldn't be salty.

blech

But you know what the secrets are, so work around that, attack with a low minion first. It summons the 2-1, it comes back, that's two secrets. The 3/2 will go on someone, kill that minion, if you cant' kill as many of the other ones you can without losing all board control because 1-1 goes on everyone next turn. And the minion played goes to 1 hp only if they have the whole tree, most people don't use it
 

ParityBit

Member
Honestly you could try arena but it takes seven wins to get even with the gold, if you are good enough it is worth it but if you are not it can be rough stuff. Maybe you could try arena once and see how you do?

At 3 wins you can get 50 gold, and if you consider the pack as a 100 gold investment already, you are doing okay. 7 wins can feel really daunting at first. IMO, nothing feels better than doing good in arena and getting your money back. I went 11-3 last week, and then yesterday went 0-3. It can be all over the map, just accept that sometimes you face a deck that will go 12-0 in your first round.

Edit:....I kind of should have quoted the guy you were quoting, oh well

I thought I had read that you get a pack of cards as a reward in addition to gold, as long as you win a game or two?
 

ZealousD

Makes world leading predictions like "The sun will rise tomorrow"
I thought I had read that you get a pack of cards as a reward in addition to gold, as long as you win a game or two?

You always get a pack. At 3 wins the rewards are roughly equivalent to what you would get uf you spent your gold on packs. At 7 wins you are guaranteed 150 gold so it's like the run pays for itself.
 

manhack

Member
But you know what the secrets are, so work around that, attack with a low minion first. It summons the 2-1, it comes back, that's two secrets. The 3/2 will go on someone, kill that minion, if you cant' kill as many of the other ones you can without losing all board control because 1-1 goes on everyone next turn. And the minion played goes to 1 hp only if they have the whole tree, most people don't use it

Yeah I know, just salty. Been working on Golden Shaman which means I've played a shit ton of games this month and Paladins, which are my worst match up, are just becoming more popular every day. I was hovering around 50% win rate vs. them, but the last few days have been rough.
 
I thought I had read that you get a pack of cards as a reward in addition to gold, as long as you win a game or two?

You do, you get a pack, which would have costed you 100 gold to begin with, and the chance to win more. So im saying if you get to 3 wins, you can get 50 gold, equaling up to the 150 gold you spent to enter, since the pack would have been 100 to begin with. That might have been explained poorly. And you get your pack even if you go 0-3 like I did the other day, but I got a legendary in the pack, so It wasn't that bad.

Also, if you haven't done arena yet, your first is free
 

zoukka

Member
I really don't ever find him as a problem, for a while I thought that it was the "inside" joke of hearthstone. Dr.Balanced is never that large of a swing.

Always expect him on mana 7, and have a strategy around him showing up before that

That's because the whole game of Hearthstone has adjusted around one card.
 

ParityBit

Member
You do, you get a pack, which would have costed you 100 gold to begin with, and the chance to win more. So im saying if you get to 3 wins, you can get 50 gold, equaling up to the 150 gold you spent to enter, since the pack would have been 100 to begin with. That might have been explained poorly. And you get your pack even if you go 0-3 like I did the other day, but I got a legendary in the pack, so It wasn't that bad.

Also, if you haven't done arena yet, your first is free

Oh I see. So the worst thing that can happen is that I lose 50 gold because I get a pack. Is the back a basic pack, or is it from any of the sets? Random or something.
 

Haly

One day I realized that sadness is just another word for not enough coffee.
Dr. Boom doesn't draw cards, that's a big deal.

Mitigated by the fact that MC is a class card I think.

MC might be worse if it was neutral and somehow drew neutral secrets but it's still contained to Paladin.

I'd say it's about even, but I'd give the advantage to MC in a vacuum.
 

ParityBit

Member
The arena packs are random.

Okay, so it kind of sounds like I should hang in the arena, and even if I stink I will get my packs and can offset the losses and keep playing in the arena by doing daily quests?

I made my deck for the arena but have not tried it yet. It is the free try! Intimidated ;)
 

Dahbomb

Member
Mitigated by the fact that MC is a class card I think.

MC might be worse if it was neutral and somehow drew neutral secrets but it's still contained to Paladin.

I'd say it's about even, but I'd give the advantage to MC in a vacuum.
I am pretty sure if MC was a neutral I would quit the game.
 

ZealousD

Makes world leading predictions like "The sun will rise tomorrow"
Not even close really.

I agree. Mysterious Challenger is so much better than Dr. Boom.

Seriously. If I were nerfing Dr. Boom myself I'd be satisfied by cutting 2 off his health. He'd be comparable to Baron Geddon, then. With Mysterious Challenger his entire concept is so toxic I'd make him a 4/4 or something.
 

Dahbomb

Member
Mysterious Challenger needs to be in a proper deck built around it, Dr Balanced can be put in whatever deck and he's OP.

But in the proper deck Mysterious Challenger is better than Dr Balanced. Not only is it better but it's more consistent as well because it's more likely to be dropped at 6. It's no wonder why it's nicknamed Dr.6, the Dr stands for balanced. In fact, I think I should start calling it Balanced Challenger instead.


In addition, in an aggro Secret deck you actually WANT to keep MC in your opening hand/mulligan phase. There are very few 6 or higher cost you want to keep in your hand when you are given the option at the start. I have played a few games with the deck and let me tell you... you absolutely should be keeping MC in your opening hand at all costs.
 

Haly

One day I realized that sadness is just another word for not enough coffee.
I dislike the boom bots the most. 7/7 is whatever but 1-4 damage is 2 much esports 4 me.

1-2, or 2 to two random enemy minions like the bot brawl.
 

Nirolak

Mrgrgr
They're definitely ramping up co-op options in Hearthstone.

Hearthpwn said:
Co-Operative Tavern Brawl Datamining

Some initial datamining of the phone patch deployed today to the Amazon App store has revealed a couple of more tidbits which make reference to a "CoOp Tavern Brawl". More information to follow, refresh for updates!

This isn't the first time we've seen references to "2P CoOP" in Hearthstone's client, but it sure has been expanded upon.

New GameType - GT_TB_2P_COOP = 18
New Boolean - is_coop = 15;
New actor reference - VictoryTwoScoop
http://www.hearthpwn.com/news/1061-co-operative-tavern-brawl-datamining
 

TheBez

Member
Mysterious Challenger needs to be in a proper deck built around it, Dr Balanced can be put in whatever deck and he's OP.

But in the proper deck Mysterious Challenger is better than Dr Balanced. Not only is it better but it's more consistent as well because it's more likely to be dropped at 6. It's no wonder why it's nicknamed Dr.6, the Dr stands for balanced. In fact, I think I should start calling it Balanced Challenger instead.


In addition, in an aggro Secret deck you actually WANT to keep MC in your opening hand/mulligan phase. There are very few 6 or higher cost you want to keep in your hand when you are given the option at the start. I have played a few games with the deck and let me tell you... you absolutely should be keeping MC in your opening hand at all costs.

Mysterious Balancer
 

ZealousD

Makes world leading predictions like "The sun will rise tomorrow"
Mysterious Challenger needs to be in a proper deck built around it, Dr Balanced can be put in whatever deck and he's OP.

But in the proper deck Mysterious Challenger is better than Dr Balanced. Not only is it better but it's more consistent as well because it's more likely to be dropped at 6. It's no wonder why it's nicknamed Dr.6, the Dr stands for balanced. In fact, I think I should start calling it Balanced Challenger instead.


In addition, in an aggro Secret deck you actually WANT to keep MC in your opening hand/mulligan phase. There are very few 6 or higher cost you want to keep in your hand when you are given the option at the start. I have played a few games with the deck and let me tell you... you absolutely should be keeping MC in your opening hand at all costs.

The decks that run Dr. Boom would be the same decks without Dr. Boom. He's just an absurd value card. At worst he is pushing out notable legendaries like Ragnaros.

Mysterious Challenger is toxic and disruptive. Blizzard printed the card because they wanted to encourage Paladin secret play. In doing so they enabled a Paladin deck that is so strong that they've pushed out tons of cards that were actually good from the meta. There's no reason to run a Paladin deck that isn't secret Paladin. Aldor Peacekeeper doesn't see play. Equality doesn't see play. Quartermaster doesn't see play. Murloc Knight can't even break through sometimes. The only Paladin cards that see play are those that help enable a powerful Turn 6 MC play or make it even harder to recover from a Turn 6 MC play. The card is absurd. And the times the deck loses it is because of awful draws. There's a reason the deck was the clear pick for the perfect curve Brawl. Because the whole power of the deck is in making absurd on-curve plays. And Turn 6 is the crowning shitplay.
 

Dahbomb

Member
With the death of Grim Patron deck coming up I decided to make a Ball of Spiders board flood Hunter deck.

It's also using Sea Giant + Volcanic Drake + King of Beasts + Acidmaw! I might even try Scavenging Hyena.
 

Raytow

Member
Patron banned lets bring the secretdin, hearthstone pro meta so good, was firebat the only trying to play something different? and get recked anyways Elegiggle.
 

Vanillalite

Ask me about the GAF Notebook
I have ran saraad in tempo but I cut it because I cut antonidas for ragnaros. And I replaced saraad with sylvanas. Could probably run any strong 5-6 drop in that slot imo. Hell, even cairne or pilotted sky golem. Or maybe even something faster.

Here is the post I made last night about the deck I ran with the list and links relevant to it: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=181728822&postcount=17980

Running a modified version of this now as I copied you and threw in what I have/like for top end.

Basically I'm running Pyro and Antonidas as I don't yet own Rag, and Pyro wins me so many games cause people don't think I have another fireball.

Only game I've lost with this deck so far has been too Zoo Paly.
 

Owzers

Member
how bad do I need to invest all my dust in tirion to try to get to rank 5 midrange paladin

i have 2700 dust, a mediocre hunter and a very mediocre priest and paladin. I don't want to spend dust because it's hard to come by, i'm thinking of waiting to see what the new adventure cards will be/what decks they can help before making any of mine better. I did spend 200 dust on two knife jugglers since i never got them and one unleash the hounds to help hunter. Also hesitant on crafting all the Druid epics to make a FON deck if that gets nerfed. Highest i've laddered so far is Rank 9 with hunter.
 
Everyone always says a certain card is trash/ruins the game. Sometimes luck isn't in your favor. AND on the topic of luck, casino mage might be my favorite deck to play right now
 
i have 2700 dust, a mediocre hunter and a very mediocre priest and paladin. I don't want to spend dust because it's hard to come by, i'm thinking of waiting to see what the new adventure cards will be/what decks they can help before making any of mine better. I did spend 200 dust on two knife jugglers since i never got them and one unleash the hounds to help hunter. Also hesitant on crafting all the Druid epics to make a FON deck if that gets nerfed. Highest i've laddered so far is Rank 9 with hunter.

What? Get a legendary, what good is holding onto dust?
 

Pooya

Member
how bad do I need to invest all my dust in tirion to try to get to rank 5 midrange paladin

He makes a huge difference, previously I wasn't all that convinced of the card, it was really strong but I could play without having him. but now... I put him into any kind of paladin deck even face ones. It wins games by itself, games you'd be losing otherwise not a win more card, best follow up to boom. in the game for any deck For mid range paladin it's must have or you will hate life playing that deck. It can be quite fragile and you need as many win conditions as you can have. QM alone isn't enough. It makes your life way easier.

You can hit 5 without him just fine, it's just going to take longer.
 

Owzers

Member
What? Get a legendary, what good is holding onto dust?

I did craft a Dr. Boom, but i can't decide on what legendary to get next, Tirion if i go Paladin, sylvanas or alextraza for other stuff or if i ever go Dragon Priest.

I keep running into Armor warriors, i should just give up as soon as they play Justicar as there is no way i can compete with that much armor at all times. I hate this game every other time i play it. *plays more*
 
I did craft a Dr. Boom, but i can't decide on what legendary to get next, Tirion if i go Paladin, sylvanas or alextraza for other stuff or if i ever go Dragon Priest.

I keep running into Armor warriors, i should just give up as soon as they play Justicar as there is no way i can compete with that much armor at all times. I hate this game every other time i play it. *plays more*

I would tend to say crafting legendaries that aren't specific to class is better, since you have more flexibility with using them. I would say sylvanas or Rag, but figure out what would work best for the decks you like to play
 

Haly

One day I realized that sadness is just another word for not enough coffee.
I would wait, but I always wait. so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I'd get at least one deck up to par first, whichever is cheapest (in this case probably Hunter).
 

Kawl_USC

Member
Just played a Pally in Arena, who had MC along with Get down, Avenge, and +1/+1. Managed to deal with that and a turn later he dropped Saraad. :lol

Blizzard pushing secret pally so hard, its even showing up in Arena!
 
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