Game has went full retard right now.
Either that or Tempostorm has. At least Tempostorm finally removed Freeze Mage from tier 1.
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Either that or Tempostorm has. At least Tempostorm finally removed Freeze Mage from tier 1.
Shaman Tier 1, Hunter Tier 3.
Welcome to bizarro world!
You will only make more missplays otherwise.
Welcome to bizarro world!
When you are on a losing streak and you get upset by it, take a break.
You will only make more missplays otherwise.
Hunter has been tier 3 for like a month now. Not at all surprising, there are faster, stickier decks right now that compete against Hunter. All Hunter has going for it is a hero power that does face damage and Mad Scientist interaction. Game is so fast that Shaman can end the game by turn 5-6 without using something like a hero power.
Midrange Hunter is still consistent but that deck competes against Midrange Paladin/Secret Paladin/Midrange Murloc Paladin/Raptor Rogue/Midrange Druid.
Midrange Hunter is still consistent but that deck competes against Midrange Paladin/Secret Paladin/Midrange Murloc Paladin/Raptor Rogue/Midrange Druid.
paladin lacked one thing, burst. they got that too nowbu bu but you have to put some garbage (murlocs) in your deck so it's balanced. lol
I like this meta though, rogue just beats just about everything and control warrior seems to be close to extinction lolz.
Nothing wrong with Patron, though that archetype doesn't seem to have gotten anything useful out of LoE. Obsidian Destroyer isn't awful as a budget option for Control but doesn't exactly win games the way a certain other 7 drop does.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
lel you are fucking insane if you think aggro shaman is better then MR pally
I wouldnt recommend using joust at all
I wouldnt recommend using joust at all
WesternHeretic
Member
I think only Renoladin runs Tuskarr midrange should be running keeper over Murloc.
Main change to Midrange Paladin has been that Keeper of Uldaman card. That was definitely a big boost to that archetype.
Also this ranking pre-dates the current Murloc wing. Probably was compiled at the height of Aggro Shaman's power.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
Anyway Shaman will be rampant on ladder now, may start running Tempo mage
WesternHeretic
Member
Yea I should have. Made 3 obvious misplays that I noticed right away (probably a few more that didn't even cross my mind). Got back to 5 but gotta call it donezo for the day. I guess this what happens when you play while watching football on the T.V and fighting game tournament on the other monitor LOL.
I play as Pateron, I will be fine. Time to add another Ghul.
pls no more tempo mage, there have been too many mana wyrm/esports bs openings lately.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
Yeah that probably works good too
Too late, gonna frostbolt every Trogg fucker i see
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
I seriously doubt tempo mage is good vs aggro shaman.
WesternHeretic
Member
Don't doubt that fucking bitch ass mana wrym.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
Mana wyrm + coin + mirror image is still one of the most bs things in the game
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
Okay but the way shaman interacts with the mage does not work well with mage's plan to interact with the shaman. Shaman doesn't care much about board control after mage is capable of locking it down with minions like flamewaker or spells like arcane missiles. They'll just throw charge minions at face.
I think perhaps tech'd the right way, tempo mage can buy themselves a bigger winrate but likely at the cost of other match ups.
RumblingRosco
Member
Shaman rank 1?
Fuck you Tempo Storm. I never thought this day would come and now it's here but it's not even real. You cheated Shaman from their future glory by putting them too high on the tier list when they don't deserve it. Raaage.
Fuck you Tempo Storm. I never thought this day would come and now it's here but it's not even real. You cheated Shaman from their future glory by putting them too high on the tier list when they don't deserve it. Raaage.
Notice me, sempai! #priest
I played a Hunter yesterday that ran like almost every Secret in the game. He just pounded on me with his Bow and hero power every turn while my minions, bounced, mis-attacked, or got sniped. I wanted to laugh, but I was too close to death the whole time. :/
I played a Hunter yesterday that ran like almost every Secret in the game. He just pounded on me with his Bow and hero power every turn while my minions, bounced, mis-attacked, or got sniped. I wanted to laugh, but I was too close to death the whole time. :/
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
First taste of entomb priest had the priest getting whipped hard.
T
thepotatoman
Unconfirmed Member
I still think people are dumb to count out Face Hunter. Reno decks aren't that hugely favored over face hunters, and are probably unfavored if they include duplicates.
I think the OTK feel of it makes it seem worse than it actually is.
I think the OTK feel of it makes it seem worse than it actually is.
lost to two shamans in a row when i wanted to test out a mech mage i saw Forsen play, first was to a mech shaman, second to one that started off with the mrrgl legendary and got warloc hero power.
This game...am i going to have to craft a shaman? I really don't want to have to make two of those epic weapons.
This game...am i going to have to craft a shaman? I really don't want to have to make two of those epic weapons.
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
Damn deck tracker is missing recording games, and sometimes it records ranked under no mode so it doesn't show up when you list ranked only.
It may be too early to tell, but Entomb has been doing work against Warlock.
I ... I'm starting to feel hopeful....
Don't do this!
I ... I'm starting to feel hopeful....
Don't do this!
WesternHeretic
Member
Yep.. they just draw every single spell and go face. Fuck your taunts... we just smorc with spells.
irfaanator
Banned
yea ive noticed. kinda annoying
poppedcollar69
Member
so wait i know we were all just complaining about anyfin but i just faced a reno anyfin paladin X[
WesternHeretic
Member
I rather face reno decks than aggro Shaman who shoots every thing from his hand and I can't even defend myself with taunt or anything.
There is no other way....we must all be shamans and try to out face each other every game.
IMO, I think this drives home how useless Tempstorm's rankings are. As far as I can see, they have minimal to no data backing up their rankings, its just a group of guys discussing their feelings of the meta.
How much of the meta is determined by region?
Like, as a player in JP. I was recently given the chance to migrate my account over to the Asian servers where I imagine they pay less attention to Tempo Storm and whatnot. It seems like TS is pretty much defining the meta, as opposed to describing it, which is quite advantageous considering what line of business they're in. (I declined since I've already crafted Boom / Silvanas / Lightbomb / Prep on the US server.)
Is the meta different in say, EU or Asia? Are people pretty much playing the same decks?
Like, as a player in JP. I was recently given the chance to migrate my account over to the Asian servers where I imagine they pay less attention to Tempo Storm and whatnot. It seems like TS is pretty much defining the meta, as opposed to describing it, which is quite advantageous considering what line of business they're in. (I declined since I've already crafted Boom / Silvanas / Lightbomb / Prep on the US server.)
Is the meta different in say, EU or Asia? Are people pretty much playing the same decks?
WesternHeretic
Member
I remember at Blizzcon the Chinese players ran a lot more tech cards. They also played a lot more midrange Paladin when Secret was FOTM. So yea meta is a little different but mostly the same.
Yeah, like, doesn't the new aggro shaman face pretty much the same problem as old aggro mech shaman? Very inconsistent and runs out of gas pretty quickly?
Meta is different in different regions. It's not THAT different but it's still different. Like in China people play Confessor over Ysera. They also play an aggro version of Freeze Burn Mage with Coldlight Oracles.
And yeah the Aggro Shaman runs out of steam quick though it's more like Face Hunter than Mech Shaman where by the time they run out of steam the game is decided one way or the other.
And yeah the Aggro Shaman runs out of steam quick though it's more like Face Hunter than Mech Shaman where by the time they run out of steam the game is decided one way or the other.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
haven't played ladder for a few days or checked tempostorm
*sees that shammy is tier 1 and hunter tier 3.*
the hell happen lol.
Shamans learned that if you just hit the enemy hero and dont trade you can win a lot
Do these egg druids run combo? I'm guessing not. looks fun but there is no way to win against decks with several board clear like renolock or oil rogue. I just fought against two back to back.
If you know how to play oil rogue it's probably the best deck right now top of tier 1. fastest I've reached rank 5 and I barely played 10 matches a day this month. it was just too easy to climb, everything aligns with the deck well right now.
If you know how to play oil rogue it's probably the best deck right now top of tier 1. fastest I've reached rank 5 and I barely played 10 matches a day this month. it was just too easy to climb, everything aligns with the deck well right now.