Woops, my bad, I guess I was thinking of something else.
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Hearthstone |OT5| Corrupted Deeprock Salt
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Woops, my bad, I guess I was thinking of something else.
You'll miss out on the Maiden of the Lake+Coldarra Drake+Rag combo!
It sounds like you can craft Majordomo no matter what once Black Rock is out of Standard.
go_straight
Banned
RIP Warrior.
Sooooo many useless cards going to get dusted
Just Sharpsword Oil. Replace them with Assassin's Blade I guess.
A bunch of strimmers have recently started playing "Slow Miracle" lists with Tomb Pillager, it's pretty good.
This is a problem.
BananasWithGuns
Member
So the classes that seem like they're being hit the hardest by this are Paladin and Priest. Maybe Mage as well.
The rest seem like they'll be okay.
The rest seem like they'll be okay.
Trigger_happy
Member
No minibot, muster, avenge, keeper, there's no point in nerfing MC now, right?
Professor Lich
Member
While it could of been really easy to add more slots, I'm still behind the idea that there was some weird coding thing that stopped them from doing it it sooner. I mean, they've kept it in an increment of nine as well. I can see why they had it at nine at first, one slot for each class, but why not bump it up to 20 now then? So maybe there is some weird way it has to be done.
Or it could of simply that they were waiting for an overhaul like this so they could add in more slots as an extra feature, and it was really as easy as putting in a slider. The world my never know.
All I know for sure is that coding over a network is a huge pain in the ass and that might be reason why it's taken so long.
Definitely an issue for warriors. Depending on when the changes start and when the next set of cards that will have to have some sort of fix for warriors (I hope), it's going to be really painful to play a warrior.
TetraxShards
Member
Warlock lost a lot of good stuff, but they should be alright. They always are. They never run out of thyme.
WesternHeretic
Member
So which mode is going to be the "standard mode"?
Are people just not going to play the "wild" and play that new one or only the new players without naxx/goblins cards going to play it?
Are people just not going to play the "wild" and play that new one or only the new players without naxx/goblins cards going to play it?
Priest is fine, Warlock got hit way harder.
No Void Caller, Malganis, Implosion, Dark Bomb, Shredder, Dr B, Healbot, Belcher, Nerubian Egg, Zombie Chow, Haunted Creeper, Loatheb. Both Zoo and Handlock got hit hard.
I feel the standard will be a bit too limited in scope. We are looking at what, Classic + 300 cards max?
How large is the card pool for MtG? I feel something like 1000 cards is ideal to be in rotation at any point.
I think it will be a big divide, since Wild is likely going to have the most OP shit in it, but old players are likely not going to want to completely abandon their deck archetypes.
Basically the majority of old decks are dead or will need major adjustments. Naxx was OP and nearly ever deck used cards from it.
How large is the card pool for MtG? I feel something like 1000 cards is ideal to be in rotation at any point.
I think it will be a big divide, since Wild is likely going to have the most OP shit in it, but old players are likely not going to want to completely abandon their deck archetypes.
Basically the majority of old decks are dead or will need major adjustments. Naxx was OP and nearly ever deck used cards from it.
I think Warriors will get something else in the new expansion.
Everyone's going to be doing Standard, so that'll probably become the defacto mode. I don't even know why they added a ladder to Wild mode, probably because it took more effort to remove it than keep it there
From the FAQ:
Standard by any possible definition. It's also the tournament format going forward.
Any reasonable player should be hyped beyond belief for this shakeup, if some clowns can't let go of their full-tree Secredin then let them rot in Wild.
FormallyFamicom
Member
Wild will become the new casual, aka where you go to play the cheap shit to finish your dailies faster. Standard is where the competition will be, especially since it is the only format that will be rewarded with Blizzcon points.
Standard will be standard. Wild will just be for fun, basically, although you can still at least rank up there.
WesternHeretic
Member
Aiite cool thanks. So basically this is their plan to get rid of shredder, belch, and boom lololol.
Not sure how I feel about this. One one hand, this'll really shake things up, and gets rid of some of the really imbalanced cards. On the other hand, it kinda feels like tossing the baby out with the bathwater. Dragon Priest could be pretty strong in the new Standard... until the year ends and it becomes complete garbage because all of its dragons are now banned. Not as big a problem for people with a ton of cards already, but newer players could get screwed if a new year's turnover essentially deletes their deck. (until they move over to Wild and get wrecked by Dr. Boom)
One worry is if this gives Blizzard an opening to "re-print" cards. Like Antique Healbot isn't exactly OP, but is a useful anti-aggro tool, and is now banned from Standard. So what does Blizzard do to introduce anti-aggro tools back into Standard? Put Antique Healbot into the new set? Print an Anti-Killbot that is only vaguely different from an older card?
One worry is if this gives Blizzard an opening to "re-print" cards. Like Antique Healbot isn't exactly OP, but is a useful anti-aggro tool, and is now banned from Standard. So what does Blizzard do to introduce anti-aggro tools back into Standard? Put Antique Healbot into the new set? Print an Anti-Killbot that is only vaguely different from an older card?
Will never let go of the full tree dream. I'll tech in Eye for an Eye if I have to!
I wonder what the community's reaction will be when the next expansion has Doom, PhD. Its exactly like Dr. Boom, but now a 6/7.
i dunno though, this seems to just encourage continually buying new expansions and adventures or you're out of Standard and stuck above the Wall. I guess since you don't need as much gold for standard if you're new, you could focus on using that gold for expansions....i'm glad changes are coming though, even though i've only been playing for 5 months or so i see the need to try to shake things up. I just crafted Malganis and druid combo pieces though....hoard forever.
Didn't dust my cairne, first legendary i got, though my second, Trogg, is doomed.
I like Reno, knowing that Reno decks won't be a thing in less than a year is really disappointing though and i don't see why they are doing such a hard change. Fun cards are punished because Blizzard let things get out of hand and are now doing a drastic "everything" area vs " only the recent year plus basic/standard"
Didn't dust my cairne, first legendary i got, though my second, Trogg, is doomed.
I like Reno, knowing that Reno decks won't be a thing in less than a year is really disappointing though and i don't see why they are doing such a hard change. Fun cards are punished because Blizzard let things get out of hand and are now doing a drastic "everything" area vs " only the recent year plus basic/standard"
I'm hoping its 9 more for free, and they just let you buy more.
WesternHeretic
Member
A new combo will arise. Combos will be here forever. Everyone loves combos... some even fiend for it : )
Probably so but they seem keen on balancing the game more frequently so if something is discovered it will get phased out quicker. No more waiting 6 months for a change or in Druid's case 2 years for a change.
rogue is the class to play. I found it odd that lifecoach suddenly started testing rogue, and with THAT rogue deck too. That insider info. Rogue just loses a little burst damage but that's fine, the meta is going to be very different with TGT/LoE cards as the core plus this new expansion. Best time to be a main rogue
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Paladin will be ok too I think, murloc paladin is pretty good and fully functional in standard format.
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Paladin will be ok too I think, murloc paladin is pretty good and fully functional in standard format.
BananasWithGuns
Member
Dang, no buffing cards, really? Can't you just throw Far Sight a bone at least?
A silly argument to bring when they are doing a massive change in the game to begin with. You can't bring in huge changes and then revert back to "oh it will feel weird when your deck won't function like it's supposed to".
At this point I'm even gonna bother theorycrafting what will be the best/worst until I see what changes to existing cards are happening, and what new cards are coming in the next expansion because the meta will be completely unbalanced in favor of ~3 classes without any changes.
Princess Carl
Member
Yeah, shaman is in some need of balancing for the better.
usp84
Member
This is great if we actually can. Free dust. The question will it be worth 1600 dust or 400?
BananasWithGuns
Member
I'm just glad we'll actually see people running different/unique 4 drops and maybe some different late game legendaries as well.
It should be for both. I don't see why not to be honest.
You guys think BGH is going to get the stick?
Seems like 10-20 cards will be nerfed from classic My guess on them:
*One part of the combo will get nerfed.
*Knife Juggler
*Divine Favor
*BGH
*Owl
*MAYBE Arcane Golem
Honestly beyond these the basic cards are fine.