I was also using Control Priest, other decks can't win the fatigue game against Control Warrior.
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Hearthstone |OT5| Corrupted Deeprock Salt
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Acerac
Banned
I've had a lot of fun running the deck, though I've had trouble getting it past rank 5. It'll get a huge boost once standard becomes a thing.
play control warrior and watch the free wins come in.
I've heard this before. Is it really halfway playable? I guess there's a LOT of bad Legendaries... They should buff them.
BananasWithGuns
Member
If ramp Druid comes back it's pretty likely Cenarius will be a part of it.
Cenarius is pretty much always in Ramp and IIRC back in the day was in the standard list. Either way Druid is looking to see the most changes so it's probably a good idea to keep either way.
MonorailCat
Member
I need an emote for "I don't even know why I am still playing this stupid fucking game. I am only here to do my Quest, so please don't play a retarded face deck and let me have at least 1% fun"
call_kotaku
Member
it's pretty fun when you get to play paladin, though
no idea why uldaman is a common too
Maybe? With Lightbomb gone that actually cuts out a pretty significant drawback to the card. But I still don't know what kind of deck you would put him in.
Karsticles
Member
Why don't Mages have a 2 damage AoE for 4 like Paladins? I feel like Consecrate is the best early board clear out there.
Do share. I am interested in face Shaman if aggro lock becomes too weak.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
If mage had a reliable way to gain armor besides the secret, combo that with animated armor and...
i dont want to think about that
Because Mage has 3 AOE freezes, a 1 damage AOE and a 4 damage AOE. All of which Paladin doesn't have.
Best early board control spells are Hellfire as it does 3 damage and Demonwrath at 3 mana plus Powershot for Hunters.
Not that i'm defending them, but blizzard probably said "well two 2 mana arcane explosions is like one 4 mana consecration". Mages got enough ways to stall out a game till they can get some of the bigger aoe.
because they already have the best board clears.
flamestrikes, blizzard, frost nova+doomsayer.
and kobold+arcane explosion would be a consecration for them.
Consecrate is basically the default board clear everything else is based around. Priest have Nova at 5 for 2 damage + heal, while mage have blizzard at 6 due to 2 damage + freeze. Warlock do 3 damage for 4 but it hits your own board and face so it has a potential downside to the power. Mage also have arcane explosion which is 2 mana 1 damage, alongside flamestrike, so they already have a lot of clears. Technically arcane explosion is super good with spell damage, but that's always been too clunky to really work.
Mage DO actually have explosive sheep though, since they can ping it themself which makes it a 4 mana 2 damage, though it hits your own board. Only really worth it when they need to be super antiaggro though.
BananasWithGuns
Member
Cool, Warrior gets an absolutely perfect starting hand and as soon as I'm about to overcome it and turn the tide in my favor he top decks Grommash for lethal. I swear to god this shit happens all the time now.
Edit: Next match against egg Druid, beyond ridiculous starting hand. I shouldn't even be shocked by it anymore.
Edit: Next match against egg Druid, beyond ridiculous starting hand. I shouldn't even be shocked by it anymore.
at least they will lose explosive sheep + ping for ghetto consecrate when standard comes out
Karsticles
Member
I just think it's weird that Mage is the AoE king, but it's the class I'm least scared of AoEing my troops early on.
If they nerf Alextraza that might save me a few losses. Usually lose when i can't pop ice block and they get Alex off, then it's almost 100% doomed. I'm hoping the nerfs are spread out well among the annoying stuff.
no point in saving it if you don't make it to 6 or 7. I get hesitant too but you need to get out of that way of thinking.
Karsticles
Member
I'm confused. What way of thinking am I supposed to get out of?
Oh my bad, I read your first post as you were scared of using AOE near the start when you played a mage. My bad
Most of the popular mage decks don't tend to run any AoE since they're more aggressive. Mech/Tempo running something like flamestrike get really fucked over when it actually gets drawn early. Similar to Zoo really, since they usually don't have hellfire/demonfire.
Control Mages aren't super common but those are the decks that will run flamestrikes, explosive sheep, etc. while freeze mage has all of them + doomsayer nova.
BananasWithGuns
Member
Blizzard should nerf Shadowflame while they're at it.
I've been playing Freeze because it stomps all over Tempo Mage, Secret Paladin, and Zoo Lock. It gets shut down by Druid, though, because they can outlast you, and Warrior is a tough one too.. but I'll take the bad with the very, very good.
Any suggestions for a substitution in a dragon priest deck if I don't have a twilight guardian? Think a heckler could do a good enough job as a halfway decent sub? Shieldmasta perhaps?
RumblingRosco
Member
I miss 5-mana Sylvanas. That was some serious bullshit for real. Even now I think she'd see play at 7 mana, albeit less frequently.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
If Sylvanas was 7 mana she might still see play just because Boom is gone and there aren't any other 7 drops.
But yeah 5 mana Sylvanas is nuts.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
A lot of Sylvanas' value comes from forcing your opponent to make sloppy plays and uneven trades because the alternative is much, much worse so I think she prob would still see play at 7 mana. Not as much for sure.
BananasWithGuns
Member
3 mana draw 4 cards sure seems pretty fucking broken.
veloxStrix
Banned
The beginning of every season for me:
"Oh, look, a new season of Hearthstone! Let's try and build something cool to beat the meta and ladder with. Done! What's our first opponent? Secret Mage? Oh. Next opponent. Beast Trap Hunter? Huh. Maybe the next one... Wilfred Reno Control Warlock?"
Every season. I never learn my lesson about just playing some aggro deck or Zoo through the double digit ranks.
"Oh, look, a new season of Hearthstone! Let's try and build something cool to beat the meta and ladder with. Done! What's our first opponent? Secret Mage? Oh. Next opponent. Beast Trap Hunter? Huh. Maybe the next one... Wilfred Reno Control Warlock?"
Every season. I never learn my lesson about just playing some aggro deck or Zoo through the double digit ranks.
You totally ran into me if you fought Reno Wilfred Warlock today. I'm getting tired of dicking around though. About to go Aggro Shaman or Raptor Rogue to get into the actual ranks.
Do you guys think Justicar will still see play in Midrange Paladin for Standard? Pumping out recruits in the late game is nice but the synergy with Quartermaster is what elevates it. Hopefully there will be some sort of recruit buff card in the next expansion since Warhorse Trainer isn't good enough.
Like you said it loses a lot without QM. Really depends what they get in the future, but I do think she'll have a place as making two 1/1s will always be great in drawn out control matches.
BananasWithGuns
Member
Man, what the hell is it going to take for Blizzard to realize Life Tap just isn't balanced.
Every other hero power is flat out garbage compared to it.
Every other hero power is flat out garbage compared to it.
Superbowl and drunk?
I wonder how big of a change in crafting patterns the announcement has made. Like if it wasn't for the standard announcement, I would have crafted Sabotage for this Brawl. But since the card is going to be wild only in a month or two, I can't just tell my self it could be meta in the future. (And even if it is in the wild meta, I can craft it then)
Honestly? I think Sylvanas might be one of the most overrated cards in the game. Not that she's bad or that I woudn't put her in some decks. But some people think that whenever you need a 6 drop, you automatically just put her in. And I'm really not so sure about that. She's awful on an empty board and aggro will just ignore her because you'll probably get some garbage tiny crap anyway, if you can kill her in time. There are definitely situations where she is very good but there are also a lot of situations where she is bad. I think she'd be unplayable at 7 mana.
I was regretting dusting my Gallywix, thinking the card will be playable in some meta eventually... RIP.
I recently crafted second lightbomb, that's what hurts, I don't even play priest much and just wasted 400 dust.
I'm still missing some very important classic legendary cards as my luck with packs has been beyond awful. From now on, I use dust only for classic cards and nothing else until I complete the collection.