MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
Coldlight Seer, Hogger and some Alliance Lumberjack. Doubt the rarities/costs are accurate.
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Hearthstone |OT5| Corrupted Deeprock Salt
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Super Nothing
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Standard is losing synergy cards like Mechwarper, Cogmaster, Tinkertown Technician, Blastmage, and Powermace in addition to the most powerful mechs like Sky Golem, Shredder, Spider Tank, Mech Yeti, Annoy-o-Tron, Snow Chugger, and Whirling Zap-o-matic. There's not a whole lot left to work with in the way of mech decks. Without those mech synergy cards, the mech tag is pretty worthless. The only synergy card left is Gorillabot and there aren't enough mechs to fill out your curve to be able to reliably trigger his battlecry.
Officerrob
Banned
No nerfs or nerf announcement for a long time either (for those hoping they would be part of Monday's patch):
He also said 10-12 cards will be nerfed, and that BGH is high on their list to be nerfed
He also said 10-12 cards will be nerfed, and that BGH is high on their list to be nerfed
No way BGH escapes the nerf list now.
I can't even come up with 12 cards that Blizzard can nerf from the set. Based on what they have talked about themselves, I would expect these to be on the list:
Knife Juggler
Leper Gnome
Keeper of the Grove
Ancient of Lore
Alexstrasza
Big Game Hunter
Savage Roar/Force of Nature
Divine Favor
Molten Giants
Innervate
Ice Block
Random Rogue card like Prep
Most of these are extremely sketchy as it is.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
I think we need a title change
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Hearthstone |OT8| Your Heart Will Explode
Hearthstone |OT8| Finally, the Metzen Expansion
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Hearthstone |OT8| Look upon the true face of RNG, and know that your end comes soon!
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Hearthstone |OT8| Your Heart Will Explode
Hearthstone |OT8| Finally, the Metzen Expansion
Hearthstone |OT8| Zzof Shuul'wah. Thoq fssh N'Zoth!
Hearthstone |OT8| Look upon the true face of RNG, and know that your end comes soon!
No way that's a 6 mana card.
Yes, they're losing those. We're also getting 130 new cards, so all I'm saying is wait until we know more
Hearthstone |OT8| The OG's Back in The House.
Officerrob
Banned
Hearthstone |OT8| The current meta never ends
Gentle Rodriguez
Member
The cards they revealed were sadly a bit uninteresting, there's some unoriginal cards based on older cards and there's some cards that are completely dedicated to a legendary minion(which is a cool concept but their effects are not, there's much more they could do than "add +x/+x", like come on Blizzard).
Anyway, hope we get some more new cards soon, I really don't understand that they chose the unoriginal cards to show us first, doesn't bode well for the rest.
Anyway, hope we get some more new cards soon, I really don't understand that they chose the unoriginal cards to show us first, doesn't bode well for the rest.
In TGT and LoE trailers mana cost and I think even the stats were accurate. They are obviously not legendary cards.
Gentle Rodriguez
Member
Oh and I'm going to be REALLY disappointed if they don't nerf BGH, corrupted Healbot's stats are super suspect given that they're pretty fucking mediocre for the downside that he has.
For TGT the cost/stats were accurate in the end, but the rarities were not (all were shown as legendary). Doesn't prove anything obviously, but it might be a similar case here.
A 2/3 for 6 must have a hell of an effect is that is accurate.
BananasWithGuns
Member
So I guess BGH is a for sure nerf then. I'm worried about the implications of that. Classes with hard removal certainly get better if we start seeing a ton of big minions.
Kibler talking about the expansion https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wN2Jn6oErX4
Officerrob
Banned
What pissed me off about this is they got to play with premade decks, yet they didn't do any matches with premade decks today
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
Probably Twilight Dragonflight and Halion, Ultraxion and Sinestra. Wouldn't count out having another Deathwing with a different effect.
RumblingRosco
Member
Every time he says "Cuh-thuun" I'm like "man, really?"
toddhunter
Member
Corrupted piloted shredder incoming. When that leaves standard? Messed up piloted shredder followed by redeemed piloted shredder and finally nice when you get to know him piloted shredder in 2017.
All these cards are pretty underwhelming. C'Thun is potentially interesting, but when did a 10 mana card ever work out? Never. Even the broken murloc combo didn't really happen and that was way more damage than this.
The interesting part is these cards suggests no BGH nerf, which doesn't seem right.
I'd also suggest it confirms a master of disguise nerf, otherwise Brann plus C'Thun plus pandas will be pretty fun, if you lived to use it, which you wouldn't.
From there I'm guessing 10-12 Shaman nerfs to add overload.
All these cards are pretty underwhelming. C'Thun is potentially interesting, but when did a 10 mana card ever work out? Never. Even the broken murloc combo didn't really happen and that was way more damage than this.
The interesting part is these cards suggests no BGH nerf, which doesn't seem right.
I'd also suggest it confirms a master of disguise nerf, otherwise Brann plus C'Thun plus pandas will be pretty fun, if you lived to use it, which you wouldn't.
From there I'm guessing 10-12 Shaman nerfs to add overload.
Thats how I've always said it, and how everyone that plays wow says it
Was just playing some Tavern Brawl...
Hunter has complete control of the board against me as Mage. I play a big taunt trying to stop him. He plays Acidmaw, and sacrifices one of his smaller minions against my taunt, puts me as <10 health. I'm pretty much fucked.
My next draw? A Flame Leviathan. Damage to his entire board, which dies from Acidmaw. He pretty much had no cards on hand.
It was smooth sailing after that.
Hunter has complete control of the board against me as Mage. I play a big taunt trying to stop him. He plays Acidmaw, and sacrifices one of his smaller minions against my taunt, puts me as <10 health. I'm pretty much fucked.
My next draw? A Flame Leviathan. Damage to his entire board, which dies from Acidmaw. He pretty much had no cards on hand.
It was smooth sailing after that.
That's how it's pronounced, isn't it? That's how Brode was saying it during the stream.
RumblingRosco
Member
Sorry, I should have clarified. I spent like 8 years of my life thinking it was "See-thun" and about a year ago realized it was "Kah-thun" so the inner teenager in me still hasn't gotten used to "Kah-thun" yet.
Gentle Rodriguez
Member
You'll love Kripp's video then
Easiest quest ever. If you don't get legendaries in your mulligan, concede. If you get legendaries and they don't get discounted in your first two turns, concede. I got 9 wins in 20 minutes with this strategy last night.
I do mulligan for legendaries. Then my opponent has 1 mana legendaries while mine cost 1 less than they should...for turn after turn
irfaanator
Banned
yea the revealed cards were kinda meh. Everytime I looked at them I was like these are just based off of old cards, but maybe thats how they want to play it as? Corrupted cards are versions of old cards? Hopefully the others are good though
The Corrupted Healbot is more like a bigger version of Zombie Chow than a reverse Antique Healbot.
Also the Doomsayer is very different from the original Doomsayer. Not really comparable IMO aside from starting at 0/7 stats.
While they were doing their presentation I was half expecting Dr Tentacles.
Also the Doomsayer is very different from the original Doomsayer. Not really comparable IMO aside from starting at 0/7 stats.
While they were doing their presentation I was half expecting Dr Tentacles.
toddhunter
Member
You could see how it "might" work, because you can get it to last a turn and then do something with circle to stack up the damage. But probably not.
Without the big combo, it is just a shitty mech in a game that no longer has mech synergy.
You can compare them in the sense that the original doomsayer is good and this one really sucks.
I'd rather play something like an azure drake every time. It only works if you are winning by a lot, in which case every other 5 drop will be just as good.
My only hope out of all this is the C'Thun gets buffed even when it isn't in your deck.
irfaanator
Banned
yea the way I see it is that at the 5 mana turn, 7 health with no attack is probably just going to die on board, whereas w/ doomsayer 7 stats at 2 mana was pretty good. Plus that thing is just an overcosted doomsayer when it gets hit w/ silence
toddhunter
Member
Only if one of the other old gods does something funky with healing.
Gentle Rodriguez
Member
The Doomsayer seems really good when you're ahead but then again a lot of cards are that way.
That doomsayer is just really bad. It dies for free on board, that's just unplayable. Even if it doesn't you have like 7/2, 7/3 or something on your turn which is not any good for 5 mana. There are not any synergies with existing cards either, maybe some other card makes it do something.
I guess it's kind of a healbot, it heals you for 7 maybe sometimes...it's a neutral epic card. I'm just going with it being an awful card. There were a whole lot of those in TGT. Like Recruiter, Master of Ceremonies etc
I guess it's kind of a healbot, it heals you for 7 maybe sometimes...it's a neutral epic card. I'm just going with it being an awful card. There were a whole lot of those in TGT. Like Recruiter, Master of Ceremonies etc
Yeah having been a fan of H.P. Lovecraft and knowing the old gods are based on Cthulhu it is definitely pronounced with the hard C.
Yeah, that's the biggest problem I see. You lose all the value of the discount unless you're already way ahead at which point you don't need this card.
Unless I completely misheard, Brode said the (wherever it is) means in play, in hand or in your deck. The only open question is whether it functions in the graveyard.
veryslowhand
Banned
that old god the showed doesnt make sense if BGH stays the way it is now
call_kotaku
Member
cards like the new doomsayer are the sort of cards that wouldn't have been possible had they not nerfed warsong commander
