Gentle Rodriguez
Member
I'd play that card purely for fun, which I assume is what it's intended for. The fact that it just chooses a random class(and not let you discover or get your opponent's) is insane.
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Hearthstone |OT5| Corrupted Deeprock Salt
- Thread starter ZealousD
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The other thing about the card is that it specifically says warlock cards. So if you get this in some other class, it's just going to change your hero power. That's lame. It could have said 'class cards' instead. It's more likely to see this card from spellslinger and Saraad than in a warlock deck.
I am not even sure how you make a deck around this card.
Like do you just plop this into your Zoo deck?
Maybe you play it in a Warlock deck that has some very bad match ups (like 7-3ish). Maybe you are playing Handlock against a Hunter and you think your initial hand is bad except this card so you play it on turn 2 and hope to out tempo your opponent with cheaper cards.
Edit: It says Warlock only cards so it only replaces the class specific Warlock cards in your deck/hand with another class card.
I feel like there's something here that's worth exploring. You can choose to keep powerful neutral minions and fill your deck with big drawback Warlock cards that you can replace with another class card.
Like do you just plop this into your Zoo deck?
Maybe you play it in a Warlock deck that has some very bad match ups (like 7-3ish). Maybe you are playing Handlock against a Hunter and you think your initial hand is bad except this card so you play it on turn 2 and hope to out tempo your opponent with cheaper cards.
Edit: It says Warlock only cards so it only replaces the class specific Warlock cards in your deck/hand with another class card.
I feel like there's something here that's worth exploring. You can choose to keep powerful neutral minions and fill your deck with big drawback Warlock cards that you can replace with another class card.
The cost reduction is what can make that card so potentially powerful. Imagine you get Hunter and are now playing 2-mana Animal Companions and Kill Commands, 3-mana Houndmasters and 5-mana Highmanes. That is insane.
Or you get flares and arcane shots
Gentle Rodriguez
Member
I read something about playing a very agressive deck full of Warlock cards and playing the new card when you run out of steam to hopefully get some mid/end game cards. It's very interesting and I'd love to see someone try it out.I am not even sure how you make a deck around this card.
Like do you just plop this into your Zoo deck?
Maybe you play it in a Warlock deck that has some very bad match ups (like 7-3ish). Maybe you are playing Handlock against a Hunter and you think your initial hand is bad except this card so you play it on turn 2 and hope to out tempo your opponent with cheaper cards.
Edit: It says Warlock only cards so it only replaces the class specific Warlock cards in your deck/hand with another class card.
I feel like there's something here that's worth exploring. You can choose to keep powerful neutral minions and fill your deck with big drawback Warlock cards that you can replace with another class card.
that rogue card seems like a slightly better loot hoarder in arena,the extra health means it can't be pinged which also makes you feel a bit better about playing it on turn 2(although you still don't want to) but an average card from another class is a bit worse in quality than an average card in your deck because you got the best of three filter when you're drafting
pretty good card since loot hoarders already pretty good but nothing super amazing,i'd say it'll probably be about on par with that warrior common but less impactful since it doesn't really fill a need like the warrior common does
pretty good card since loot hoarders already pretty good but nothing super amazing,i'd say it'll probably be about on par with that warrior common but less impactful since it doesn't really fill a need like the warrior common does
Or you get flares and arcane shots
1 mana flare was a nerf worthy card...
That card could be an insane play on turn 1/2. You could practically had a 1/2 mana advantage from all the match.
The main drawback is that everything is random, and it will be hard to build a deck around that card
Well, your Neutral cards are still the same. So maybe you put in neutral cards that are just versatile.
Dr.Horrible
Member
It's an epic, but you'd only ever really be able to use one, correct? The only reason to hold two would be to increase your chances of drawing it, right?
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
I mean i guess its ok when your hero power starts to run out of steam and you have dead cards but then why not just use Elise
It's not even like astral communion, that deck has a plan and you can build around it. This is the most random card in this game to date, so random you can't build a deck around it. Just put it in for your amusement.
Casino Warlock. Just put in as much RNG as possible. Queue up for wild, go to town.
Super Nothing
Member
I mean i guess its ok when your hero power starts to run out of steam and you have dead cards but then why not just use Elise
That's what Jaraxxus is for.
It's an epic, but you'd only ever really be able to use one, correct? The only reason to hold two would be to increase your chances of drawing it, right?
It's a warlock class card, so it would turn into a new random 2 mana class card.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
That's what Jaraxxus is for.
...Yeah that too
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
Renounce Darkness is kind of like a deck with 30 unstable portals in it once you set it off.
Except it only exchanges your class cards. So your neutrals never change.
Finn of Ooo
Member
2/2 duds so far for warlock. Hope we get some decent minions at least.
It's a warlock class card, so it would turn into a new random 2 mana class card.
Why would it be a 2 mana one? It doesn't say same cost, they can be anything but will cost one less. Your second copy could turn into Tirion for 7.
It's a warlock class card, so it would turn into a new random 2 mana class card.
I don't think the mana costs are correlated. At least, the text does not imply that in any way. In fact, I would guess that there isn't even a card limit on what you get. You could get 3 Tyrions or 4 Highmanes or some crazy shit like that.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
The thought of Guldan, basically the most evil mortal in the entire Warcraft universe, deciding that he's seen the light and becoming a priest amuses me greatly.
wouldnt put it past metzen
Except it only exchanges your class cards. So your neutrals never change.
You know in wild it wouldn't actually be that crazy of an idea to fill your deck with class cards.
The Wizard
Member
They should have given that card to shaman.
The thought of Guldan, basically the most evil mortal in the entire Warcraft universe, deciding that he's seen the light and becoming a priest amuses me greatly.
When the new Activision film and television department starts making Warcraft: Adventure Time, that will be one of the first episodes.
Why would it be a 2 mana one? It doesn't say same cost, they can be anything but will cost one less. Your second copy could turn into Tirion for 7.
I don't think the mana costs are correlated. At least, the text does not imply that in any way. In fact, I would guess that there isn't even a card limit on what you get. You could get 3 Tyrions or 4 Highmanes or some crazy shit like that.
Yeah I figured you could pull off crazy shit like double Tirion, but I just assumed the mana cost minus the discount would be equal to that of your warlock cards.
So if you run 2 copies of Twisting Nether those could turn into 2 Tirions and not 1 Humility and 1 Light's Justice for instance.
You know in wild it wouldn't actually be that crazy of an idea to fill your deck with class cards.
Yeah I think that's the trick to making it "work". Make a deck of all warlock cards and maaaybe some neutrals as support. Then send the results to Trolden.
FormallyFamicom
Member
That Renounce Darkness card art is terribad though.
Gentle Rodriguez
Member
I still maintain that it looks like a Paladin secret.That Renounce Darkness card art is terribad though.
irfaanator
Banned
make a deck full of random terrible demons.
play that card
????
profit
play that card
????
profit
WesternHeretic
Member
Does the hero power and class card have to be the same class? Like can you grt hunter cards with like priest hero power?
That Renounce Darkness card art is terribad though.
The concept of the card doesn't fit the class lore, doesn't even fit the theme of the expansion lore. Warlocks are about being evil and liking it, not about wanting to change.
BananasWithGuns
Member
Just noticed that Renounce Darkness is Warlock's second epic. So either each class is getting three epics or not every class is getting a forbidden card.
When the new Activision film and television department starts making Warcraft: Adventure Time, that will be one of the first episodes.
i never knew u were into warcraft this much mr. nirolak
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
Just noticed that Renounce Darkness is Warlock's second epic. So either each class is getting three epics or not every class is getting a forbidden card.
I don't think there is enough design space to make a forbidden spell for each class.
Professor Lich
Member
So with Renounce Darkness, all your neutrals stay the same. So you could technically get more discounts with Emperor as he stays in Standard. I find it absolutely hilarious though. It's something I'm going to mess with for sure.
Wonder if there are different animations for acquiring different classes. Probably not.
What would be interesting, but probably doesn't happen, is if you know how the cards convert. For example, your Dark Bomb turns into another 2 cost card like Frostbolt, then only costs 1. Or your Twisting Nether turns into Tirion Fording and costs 7. More than likely it's just an RNG fest of fun and whimsy.
Wonder if there are different animations for acquiring different classes. Probably not.
With the wording, "Replace your hero power and Warlock Cards with another class's," makes it sound like you get handed another hero, then all of your cards change to their class cards. If it could be any random class cards, I feel like the word random would be in the card text.Does the hero power and class card have to be the same class? Like can you grt hunter cards with like priest hero power?
What would be interesting, but probably doesn't happen, is if you know how the cards convert. For example, your Dark Bomb turns into another 2 cost card like Frostbolt, then only costs 1. Or your Twisting Nether turns into Tirion Fording and costs 7. More than likely it's just an RNG fest of fun and whimsy.