Not if you play Controlish Warrior
Too bad everything else reks you
Play patron. Still reks plenty.
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MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
Isn't Ysera still the premiere 9 drop unless you are using a deck that runs Alex
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
The OG dr. was Dr. 5, Sylvanas.
rag is still a great card!
call_kotaku
Member
by the time you reach 9 mana, whatever you have is terminal and no doctor can possibly fix that
i keep winning games with anub'arak. I must be some sort of medical anomaly
Weren't you just complaining about losing with Aggro Druid?
Also you free for the card review?
not tonight and I don't know when I would be coming up
I ran aggro druid cuz I had a druid quest and it was already in my deck list.
Mostly I'm playing control rogue.
you're going to fit right in.
RumblingRosco
Member
All this talk about Drs makes me wonder what the highest value turns 1-10 tempo would look like with the following rules:
You cast one card per turn
You use all mana each turn
You can have the dream draw of any card from any class.
You cast one card per turn
You use all mana each turn
You can have the dream draw of any card from any class.
It's been already seen in that Tavern Brawl 3? weeks ago. Zombie Chow, Shielded Minibot, Muster for Battle, Shredder/Truesilver Champion, Loatheb/Belcher, Mysterious Challenger, Dr. Boom, Tyrion Fordring, Onyxia, game is already over before turn 9.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
Assuming you want the best possible thing to drop -
Chow
Minibot
Muster
Shredder
Loatheb/Belcher
MC/Thaurissan
Boom
Rag/Tirion
Ysera
Varian
Dat Minibot + Muster + Varian class EleGiggle
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
He said "You can have the dream draw of any card from any class."
If not then Deathwing
Blizz doesn't want players to be able to mess with the opponents hands. That's why Illidan was changed.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
Illidan was each player discards 3 cards and draws 3. That is what they don't want.
Serves me right for browsing GAF on a different monitor while working FailFish
phoenix296
Member
How long ago was this? Beta?
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
Early beta, I think
RumblingRosco
Member
Before (alpha?) or early in closed beta, because it was changed before I started played in 2013.
daemissary
Member
Yeah, it must've been closed beta because I started almost immediately after open beta and it was already in its current form.
Don't forget that this tavern brawl had so many open slots you could run 2x Wisp and 2x Target Dummy
Trump has the worst record of card prediction among the top streamers.
He thought Fencing Coach was insane.
He thought Kvaldir Raider should have been a 5/5 and said it would be bad in arena.
He said Mukla's Champion could have been a 5/5 and he still would have called it bad.
When evaluating Living Roots, he did nothing but compare it to Zombie Chow.
His thoughts on Entomb and Forgotten Torch are not bold. I agree on both.
Keeper of Uldaman definitely has potential. I would not underestimate that card. I think Unearthed Raptor is probably the best card in the set (and by best I mean overpowered as fuck) but Keeper of Uldaman might be in my Top 5.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
lmao if Mukla was a 5/5 it would probably be the single best arena card
I don't remember that part but comparing Living Roots to another staple 1 drop is a good thing. Unless he was saying stuff like "why would you ever run Living Roots over Zombie Chow?"
I think Entomb will find some use in Control Priest, as it will be a useful tool against Control Warrior which is one of the harder match ups for the deck. The Keeper seems like it has potential but it also seems really awkward to fit in a deck.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9K79g9zPWrc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtYs3dsX7i0#t=49m57s
Basically, whenever he mentions the saplings he spends the vast majority of his time discussing the card in some kind of anti-aggressive context. He gives minor lip service to its power with savage roar but ultimate he goes back to zombie chow. This is despite the fact that its ultimate use was on the complete other side of the world and could not be more different than zombie chow.
Entomb is in a bizarre middle ground between SW
and Mind Control. If you want a faster and lower curve response you should stick with SW. If you want something to counter other control decks then MC is going to get you much better value. High cost removal is difficult to justify in this current meta, so it's not like you have to option to run any combination of these either, you have to make a choice.Uldaman Keeper could replace Blessing of Kings. I don't think its inclusion is necessarily that awkward.
poppedcollar69
Member
itd be funny if jaraxxus warlocks played lights champion defensively
I started watching it just to see the train wreck of some of his predictions. Dude getting hung up on specifics. Point being that you're probably only going to have a few cards in your deck once you finally draw the golden monkey.
I missed the earlier part of his explanation, though. Did he even mention how awful it is just to draw the map on your turn? That you have to pay 2 mana just to get the card you were going to draw anyway?
Really? He was saying that it might get played in control decks... Did he change his mind already?
He was basically saying that on average you would get the full combo when you have 4-5 cards left in your deck. So in most cases it's not even worth it if you get it off and most of the time you won't even get the combo off.
He also said that for you to get maximum value out of the card you would have to hard mulligan for the Starseeker and keep it in your opening hand to play it on turn 4. The later you play it the worse off it will be of course. But then he was saying how saving a 4 drop like that in your opening hand is really weak and it's also weak to play a 3/5 on turn 4.
Summed up:
*Need to mulligan for the 4 mana minion and play it on turn 4 to have any form of consistency. Neither options are desirable as it is.
*On average, you would've gone through most of the deck before you actually complete the combo. Most games would've been decided by that time already. He spent a good amount of time trying to get into the mathematics of it.
*The 2 mana card basically does nothing on the board and is a huge tempo loss.
*For most decks you don't even want a hand full of Legendaries, sometimes you need an efficient removal and you can't really do that with a hand full of expensive legendaries.
The Monkey effect seems bad even if it was easier to get, there are a lot of bad Legendaries so potentially replacing cards you want in your deck with stuff like Lorewalker Cho, Nat Pagle and Majordomo is not something you'd want. Maybe if it also heavily discounted the mana cost of all the Legendaries it would be closer to worth it.
toddhunter
Member
It is just a combo that gives new players a chance to play with legendary cards.
It shouldn't be taken seriously, but is a fun addition.
Something like "change your hero power to "discover a legendary minion" would be a good payoff.
It shouldn't be taken seriously, but is a fun addition.
Something like "change your hero power to "discover a legendary minion" would be a good payoff.
That might be worth it.
Well when the requirement for a card is approaching YuGiOh level of card draw skill, it should probably swing the game quite a bit.
toddhunter
Member
Yes, and appropriately so.
Seeing somebody try to pull off that combo, as unlikely as it is, should be an "oh shit, got to win quick" moment not a "lol". Even then it is balanced by having to spend 2 mana to get a legendary, so you could only play something 8 or below (assuming you got 3 good ones to pick from!)
I think it'd work.
poppedcollar69
Member
could miracle rogue even beat face hunter?
man, people don't seem to understand Reno Jackson. Strifecro was asked about it on the stream and it was just making decks around singles and all that....
If you're drawing almost your whole deck almost every game, it doesn't matter, like in freeze mage. The chances of you having two copies of a card in like your last 7-8 cards are pretty low.
If you're drawing almost your whole deck almost every game, it doesn't matter, like in freeze mage. The chances of you having two copies of a card in like your last 7-8 cards are pretty low.