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Hearthstone |OT5| Corrupted Deeprock Salt
- Thread starter ZealousD
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I had this happen earlier today. Do you have to disconnect or is there something else you can do?
I was reading reports that the rogue can continue to play normally, but for you it will just look like her turn goes on indefinitely.
Its very important since he is almost 100% of the time active but you can play perfectly without him, I would add the second zombie chow, or, if you want a simmilar effect of burst damage doomguard its a fine sub.
Mobius and pet octopus
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I saw reynad running reliquary. I think I was the only one who put any credence to that being playable, although I'd imagine its not necessarily a keeper either.
I quit HS then came back didn't tell me about losing the match so dunno, but it seems the rogue just plays normally and you get stuck roping? if so that's absolute bs, free win just because wtf...
It's important to the token zoo deck but not so much to Demonlock.
Just play the other kind of zoo, runs malganis and 2 doomguards iirc, and malganis is playable in other archetypes unlike gormock.
Mobius and pet octopus
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Unearthed Raptor copying anubarak is favorite 2 card interaction in the game atm and I think it is actually in a viable deck.
After it dies, it returns to your hand so you can copy it off anubarak again and again and again... infinite value lol. And still spawns the 4/4 of course. So you get infinite raptors and infinite 4/4 spiders.
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Rank 3 off this (climbed some with a keeper paladin deck I threw together). 10-4 so far, probably should be slightly better since there was a bit of a learning curve + adjustment period at first, and then overwatch beta weekend hit so I had to get re-acquainted.
Still a version 1 list but I think I like the pieces I have, even emperor thaurissan over something like cairne or sky golem which could be copied by unearthed raptor.
After it dies, it returns to your hand so you can copy it off anubarak again and again and again... infinite value lol. And still spawns the 4/4 of course. So you get infinite raptors and infinite 4/4 spiders.
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Rank 3 off this (climbed some with a keeper paladin deck I threw together). 10-4 so far, probably should be slightly better since there was a bit of a learning curve + adjustment period at first, and then overwatch beta weekend hit so I had to get re-acquainted.
Still a version 1 list but I think I like the pieces I have, even emperor thaurissan over something like cairne or sky golem which could be copied by unearthed raptor.
Considered swapping rag for something like baron rivenderre?
Mobius and pet octopus
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Hmm, I'm just not sure if baron is really worth it. It is fairly weak on its own and I just don't think there are many deathrattles worth getting double value off of. Seems really situational too, whereas raptor is just a good body on its own even when you don't copy anything. Same goes for ragnaros more or less. It is quite good in a couple match ups too, like tempo mage for example. Against tempo mage they might have to toss a fireball or more at it to deal with it, and it puts them on a real time clock so they can't just get antonidas eventually and burn me out.
Mobius and pet octopus
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Is it? 16 of the cards are 3 cost or less and pretty much all of those are good or at least playable vs aggro on curve.
well it might not be as greedy as some CW lists but it's still pretty greedy. You have emperor which enables no combo in there other than Anub'Arak+ raptor which isn't worth the inclusion for that one instance that you might pull off in a rare long game. You never get a big hand with that deck either. Seems needlessly slow because you want to include that one combo which makes it greedy to me.
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
I don't think you understand the list at all if you think I am including Et to combo anubarak and raptor.
I think i'm bad at secret paladin but i don't see why everyone says this deck is so great, i find a lot of hard match-ups if i don't get a great draw. Avenge to tapping out a silver knight if you don't have a two drop is a step towards inevitable doom. Raptor rogue has so much removal and sticky stuff it's almost always downhill.
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
Okay I guess you've played a lot of control rogue then? Have you looked at many control rogue lists? Because almost all I have seen use emperor to help them against midrange and control decks.
Yes, I've been trying it for a while and I try to watch streamers that play rogue, like Ryzen, superjj, dog, Savjz, thijs, hotform etc. I've seen some play emperor with Malygos, it's a combo/burst deck. In the deathrattle one? nope. People tend to run Brann which makes some sense but Emperor not really. Your deck doesn't even have card draw, it does have cycling, you don't get a notable hand to benefit from Emperor, you don't play a combo either which makes it quite a waste to me. but if it you like it, play it. It's still like a taunt I guess and has some benefits, some bad players always rush to kill it no matter the circumstances.
Mobius and pet octopus
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Funny you mention ryzen and dog, because they both ran emperor in their lists. And I have the person who made their lists on my friend's list... soo... its not like I am running emperor for no reason nor is it unprecedented.
You seem to think that emperor is only good for enabling combo finishers, which actually is untrue. And based on experience running the deck, I often get 5+ card hits off it in a single turn, which means it pays for itself just in a single turn. That lets me leverage a lot of cards in ways that would otherwise not be possible, such as getting cheaper fan of knives to combo out with azure drake, or playing ragnaros or anubarak a turn earlier if the situation presents itself. It is overall good vs control and midrange. It is weaker vs aggro but most 6 drops will be.
I don't see why I would run brann in this list or frankly any rogue list other than mill.
maybe they ran it in pre-raptor lists, I don't remember. But these past week with raptor I don't think so. The deck is more of a tempo/mid range deck than a control one anyway, you want minions on curve here.
Brann works with healbot and raptor, some were running abusive too with eggs. I think it's bad.
Brann works with healbot and raptor, some were running abusive too with eggs. I think it's bad.
Mobius and pet octopus
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You're really gonna say this list lacks minions to play on curve? Seems like you're really nitpicking a list you've never played because it looked different to you. And yes every control rogue list I've seen so far runs emperor.
Man, that's so strict it's really sad to see in a TCG. It's like Starcraft or something.
"This build order needs to be exact for every game you play for the rest of time or you will lose!"
Maybe old but... Raptor shenanigans (skip to the last couple of minutes for fireworks)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyTckUS46YI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyTckUS46YI
Nah it's fine to play off-curve a bit as long as you have some doctors ready for turns 5/6/7/8
Unless you're playing something that isn't Paladin, but then that's your own fault for opposing Ben Brode's artistic vision
I guess the kids are out of school because every game I play, I have some asshat hitting the emote buttons constantly with every card they play. I wish I could turn on an autosquelch option because there's honestly no good reason to have emotes in this game other than to be an asshole.
Also, the best joke response to this post is: "Sorry"
Also, the best joke response to this post is: "Sorry"
I think he's being slightly facetious. After all, it always seems like your opponent gets the perfect draws. That's just the nature of the game though. Sometimes falling behind at the start can cost you the game.
Trigger_happy
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2 fatigue warriors in a row just when i started to play mill rogue. One of them was only 1 card ahead in fatigue even with my gang up and he had tank up, because of this my coldlights only helped him fatigue me faster, jeez.
I bought the new Adventure today
Its fun and quirky but WAY to easy
I beat every boss on the first try with my ladder Shaman deck
I remember BRM and Naxx being much more difficult to beat
Decks are much more powerful these days. Try it with basic/Classic cards.
I saw Reynad trying to use this and actually put in Sideshow Spelleater for Warrior funnily enough. Though he actually wants Elise to release for the deck IIRC. Kinda curious to see how that all pans out.
Maybe the deck is just not for you. It is still crazy strong, it's literally the only deck I have with a positive win rate against every single class.
I avoid constructed like the plague and only play it for one day every month to get to rank 5 and be done with it and my stats loook like this (EU):
Was Raptor involved? That card is causing some disconnect issues.
Raptor Rogue is the best deck in the game right now because you can straight up a win game from the Rogue crashing the game. That's even stronger than MC!
Been having some success with my beast Hunter deck. Granted I'm at rank 10, but still it feels fairly solid. It's basically a flavor of midrange Hunter, but instead of controlling board via sticky minions, you do it through a never-ending supply of beasts. Here is the list:
Tomb Spider is really good. Not as sticky as Shredder, but synergizes with Hunter much better acting as an activator for KC, Houndmaster, Ram Wrangler, etc. Not completely sold on Jeweled Scarab though. It's great when you can pull another KC or Animal Companion. But I've sometimes ended up with some mediocre 3-drops instead; for example, Metaltooth Leaper pops up way more often than I'd like.
Ram Wrangler can also range from OK to downright broken. Summoning a Highmane is game winning, but summoning a Dragonhawk FeelsBadMan. Usually it's somewhere in the middle.
Brann is great in this deck. Discovering two cards is really nice, summoning two beasts with Ram Wrangler is amazing and the Houndmaster buff is ridiculously strong.
The rest of the list is fairly standard midrange stuff. Is it better than standard midrange Hunter? Eh, it's close but probably not. The variance with cards like Ram Wrangler and the Discover spiders means it's just not as consistent. Although when you get value off of them, it can feel really powerful. Still, it's new and different and good enough right now, so I'm gonna keep playing it.
Tomb Spider is really good. Not as sticky as Shredder, but synergizes with Hunter much better acting as an activator for KC, Houndmaster, Ram Wrangler, etc. Not completely sold on Jeweled Scarab though. It's great when you can pull another KC or Animal Companion. But I've sometimes ended up with some mediocre 3-drops instead; for example, Metaltooth Leaper pops up way more often than I'd like.
Ram Wrangler can also range from OK to downright broken. Summoning a Highmane is game winning, but summoning a Dragonhawk FeelsBadMan. Usually it's somewhere in the middle.
Brann is great in this deck. Discovering two cards is really nice, summoning two beasts with Ram Wrangler is amazing and the Houndmaster buff is ridiculously strong.
The rest of the list is fairly standard midrange stuff. Is it better than standard midrange Hunter? Eh, it's close but probably not. The variance with cards like Ram Wrangler and the Discover spiders means it's just not as consistent. Although when you get value off of them, it can feel really powerful. Still, it's new and different and good enough right now, so I'm gonna keep playing it.
CraigerGamer
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Face Hunters are my toughest opponent with that deck. Dragon Priest are a close second if they get a decent draw.Maybe the deck is just not for you. It is still crazy strong, it's literally the only deck I have with a positive win rate against every single class.
I avoid constructed like the plague and only play it for one day every month to get to rank 5 and be done with it and my stats loook like this (EU):
GwyndolinCinder
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With keeper of uldaman, my winrate vs control warrior is so much better
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
started running two keeper of uldamans in mid range Paladin, took out 1 aldor and 1 quartermaster. seems pretty good but I think Im too heavy on 4 costs now.
