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Hearthstone |OT6| C'THUN for President! Why pick the lesser evil?
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You should be an optometrist, you got my eyes working right
So we have two new Hunter cards dealing with deathrattles even though most of the good deathrattles are rotating out, so it's not entirely obvious what this Hunter deck looks like at the moment. I think we're still missing some pieces and that Hunter is getting one or two deathrattle minions in this set that we haven't seen yet.
BananasWithGuns
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Great stats for a 5 drop and a decent effect. Hunter finally got a good legendary?
BananasWithGuns
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Taunt, Battlecry: Give your C'thun +3/+3 (wherever it is).
Like the art, looks like a corrupted arakkoa
call_kotaku
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it's about that hat synergy
BananasWithGuns
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The new Druid card seems pretty damn ridiculous. Losing 1 attack from a Boulderfist and gaining taunt and 6 stats on your C'thun. Crazy.
I guess they really want people to stop playing FoN+Roar.
Has me a little worried since some classes haven't seen cthun interaction cards and druid get two. That and the fact blizzard said there are like 16 cards that interact with cthun and we've seen enough to say some classes won't get any
Oh wow. Is each class getting two C'Thun cards? Or are they only giving C'Thun cards to a few classes?
So far the distribution has been pretty even so we can probably expect more cthun cards for each deck. That being said, some classes in theory may need less cthun cards than others so it's no guarantee.
I'm happy that they are changing Druid into the big taunt class as its archetype. Also that hunter legendary makes feign death hunter pretty strong
That Druid card is almost playable by itself. 5/7 Taunt is really good even at 6 mana.
The Hunter Legendary is like a single proc of Feign Death. Have Sylvanas out then play this on it to steal a minion. Not enough deathrattles in the set yet though.
You can also do Twilight Summoner into this for insane tempo going into turn 6 then drop down Highmane.
I also realized that this is our first 5 mana 6/5.
The Hunter Legendary is like a single proc of Feign Death. Have Sylvanas out then play this on it to steal a minion. Not enough deathrattles in the set yet though.
You can also do Twilight Summoner into this for insane tempo going into turn 6 then drop down Highmane.
I also realized that this is our first 5 mana 6/5.
Gentle Rodriguez
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Wow I thought that Druid card was pretty mediocre until I saw the Taunt, pretty damn good by itself.
I guess warrior has another class c'thun card too. Only 2 classes seem really limited though, probably paladin has c'thun cards too, we haven't seen many minions there.
druids cards are really good, I think c'thun is there to fill for the classes that lose a lot with rotation and nerf, so paladin too maybe.
it's almost an ancient of war that does something for 6 mana, it's toshley with taunt. it's crazy. c'thun druid is going be the druid deck, you might not even need c'thun to win. beasts so far look as awful as before.
druids cards are really good, I think c'thun is there to fill for the classes that lose a lot with rotation and nerf, so paladin too maybe.
it's almost an ancient of war that does something for 6 mana, it's toshley with taunt. it's crazy. c'thun druid is going be the druid deck, you might not even need c'thun to win. beasts so far look as awful as before.
Yeah if it was a neutral without the C'Thun text it would be a very high pick in arena. Competes very aggressively with Sunwalker.
Hey_Blinkin
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You ever lose so many matches consecutively that it stops becoming maddening and starts becoming humorous? I woke up this morning to a simple win 2 matches with a hunter or mage. Planned on knocking that out and then playing some Dark Souls. 11 losses in a row later I'm still 0/2 on the quest.
If things go this badly, it's time for a break. You are just going to make more misplays.
MMaRsu
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even in casual and brawl ?
Gentle Rodriguez
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Yeah I just stop playing when I realize that I'm way too salty to make good decisions, this is usually after 3 straight losses or so.
Hey_Blinkin
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First six losses were in casual. Then I moved to ranked where I'm now one star from dropping to rank 20. Oh well, I'm definitely done for the day.
I went on a 16 loss streak playing ladder yesterday. I guess that countered the 12 win streak I had the day before.
EDIT: Got to rank 5 playing mediocre totem shaman. Deck is very draw dependent.
BananasWithGuns
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8 neutral C'thun minions and 8 class C'thun minions (2 each for 4 classes) would make a lot of sense to me.
we've seen 3+5 C'thun cards. Assuming warrior has another one that's 4+5, that leaves 7 other C'thun card, you can have 2+2+2 and another neutral. 5 classes total the most. There are probably more neutral ones, if 3, two other classes get C'thun class cards.
You can look at the rarity of currently released cards and predict which ones I guess. It's probably paladin for one, we haven't seen any common there. Mage is unlikely, we've seen both commons for example. C'thun class cards are probably one common one rare. I'm guessing priest is getting it too.
You can look at the rarity of currently released cards and predict which ones I guess. It's probably paladin for one, we haven't seen any common there. Mage is unlikely, we've seen both commons for example. C'thun class cards are probably one common one rare. I'm guessing priest is getting it too.
Oh wow, I thought only BRM and tgt were leaving next year with loe and gods + next adventure as the standard
To my understanding it's everything that released in 2015 going out the window.
There were only two sets in 2014 so that's why only two left.
the inspire minions get run over by the GvG and Naxx minions with way more stats before the inspire can be used to great effect.
From my perspective, I think inspire has found a solid place in arena, but it feels like the creatures it's attached to are just generally not efficient enough for the mana in constructed.
The minions had ho-hum to below average stats, required you to use your hero power the turn they came out to get value (so effectively costing two mana more), and your hero power is really only worth 1 mana in the first place at best.
This is on top of existing in a meta where you really wanted to play the best possible value minion every turn unless you were an extreme control or aggro deck.
The only inspire cards that got play were things like Murloc Knight that generally got you 5+ mana value on top of your 1/1 minion and had extreme priority for being killed, helping to protect your other cards or being super punishing if they couldn't kill it.
Arena is slow enough with little enough removal for it to work. They probably want to see how these mechanics work in Standard and then consider bringing it back with adjusted stat lines.
C'Thun minions notably have reasonable stats despite their effect.
With it requiring the use of 2 more mana to get the effect, you gotta look at the card as costing two more than it actually does yet not stated as if it costs two more. Basically if you put it down without the effect, your opponent has incentive to kill it before it snowballs out of control and you won't get any of the inspire out of it.
call_kotaku
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I think Blizzard thought the mechanic sounded cool but realized that it would be insanely overpowered if they made any of the cards good.
I think what they were most worried about was someone flooding the board with three Inspire cards and then hitting their hero power for extreme value, but that type of scenario never really happens.
Like imagine if Silver Hand Recruiter was a 3/4, lived the turn, and on turn 4 you played Forgotten Hero and used your hero power. It would actually be a pretty solid turn. Similarly Murloc Knight being a 4/5 could make it hard to take care of the turn it dropped, so playing a Silver Hand Recruiter plus hero power the next turn gives you a Murloc, a 3/3, and two 1/1s for 5 mana plus whatever is left on the 4/5 Murloc Knight.
Wow the stats on the hunter legendary are really good. Is this the first 6/5 for 5 ever? This thing has a chance to make a really fun deck in Wild. Hopefully there are one or two decent deathrattles coming in the set, because as it is there isn't much to use this on in standard.
It happens those moments you pull a muloc knight out of a murloc knight and you know you pretty much fucked your opponent.
And there was an extent to which that would be reasonable to compete with GvG and Naxx cards, but they had already decided to do formats at that point and wanted to start ramping the power level down.
I think inspire cards are even worse now in standard 
like you have murloc knight, 6 mana 3/4 summons something ranging from 1/1s and 2/1s to 3/4 or 2/5, if you're lucky. sometimes with charge. well only one outcome will have charge in standard. This is like the best inspire minion. I like kodorider too kinda, that's a 8 drop that gives you a 3/5.
now you have that mage 5 drop that summons a 3 cost minion or shaman's 4 drop master of evolution is somewhat similar but are way faster. Granted these are one time effects but how many time a 3/4 or 3/5 minion is going to live more than a turn at that stage of the game.
like you have murloc knight, 6 mana 3/4 summons something ranging from 1/1s and 2/1s to 3/4 or 2/5, if you're lucky. sometimes with charge. well only one outcome will have charge in standard. This is like the best inspire minion. I like kodorider too kinda, that's a 8 drop that gives you a 3/5.
now you have that mage 5 drop that summons a 3 cost minion or shaman's 4 drop master of evolution is somewhat similar but are way faster. Granted these are one time effects but how many time a 3/4 or 3/5 minion is going to live more than a turn at that stage of the game.