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It could lose you the game if it's in your deck for some reason.
The game in the witcher was decent and different than other stuff currently in development or available so it should be a nice alternative.
Eternal will be out of closed beta soon and that is the digital version of magic that magic duels should have been.
Fable fortune will also be in closed beta in a few weeks (hs esque game with nice graphics and improvements).
Last but not least u can play elder scrolls legends right now.
Choose your game!
Im playing star realms now, the game is free to download but you need to unlock the full game for 5 dollars.
Is a deck building game though, so you don't collect cards, still is a really fun game, and the best of it is that buying the game on steam unlocks it on smartphones
And they've really tweaked the game from the Witcher 3 one to stand-alone.
Shit like new kinds of spies (example: lowers strength of all enemy troops in the row it's played), or stuff like Wild Hunt cards in Monster decks powering up during blizzard rather than weakining.
Living Roots, Wrath, Innervate if you already have something you want to Innervate out. I might keep Violet Teacher if I have the coin too.
It's the circle of life. the old will retire and newer players will replace them. happens with every game
The only decision "you" need to make for yourself is when it is time to move on. HS has a huge, healthy community and it will continue
I went to sleep and woke up and I'm still angry about purify.
This is seriously an instance that blizzard has to explain themselves. Even if their reasoning was "fuck priest and priest players, we hate the class and you" at least that'll explain purify. Otherwise it's just baffling how anyone could create that card and then everyone that approves cards signed off on that.
Good thing I decided to not pay money for this adventure and am just going to grind out the gold. I'm almost there
This is seriously an instance that blizzard has to explain themselves. Even if their reasoning was "fuck priest and priest players, we hate the class and you" at least that'll explain purify. Otherwise it's just baffling how anyone could create that card and then everyone that approves cards signed off on that.
Good thing I decided to not pay money for this adventure and am just going to grind out the gold. I'm almost there
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thepotatoman
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It can be a 2 mana 4/5 overload 2, which is better than yeti, but yeah still not exactly a great combo.
Alternatively, stop playing the game. Save gold for arena.
I think I will skip on this expansion and return during the holidays.
Problems don't go away, and you can protect your time and wallet.
I'm sure every permutation of ancient watcher/eerie statue + silence has been tried. The fact that even with a 0 mana silence that archetype has never taken off, it's not going to take off with a 2 mana card.
Also these made me laugh http://imgur.com/a/j7ogv
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thepotatoman
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A deck based around that is undeniably better this expansion with additional silences to draw and additional targets to silence, and I imagine card draw was the biggest problem Ancient Watcher plus silence faced.
Not saying that this will be good at all, just saying these examples people throw out are a little bit overboard.
Warlock card misses text: "discard a card."
My Top 5:
Biggest Winners:
Druid and Mage; Dragon Decks.
- Menagerie Warden. Completely Degenerate, this and Enchanted Raven are probably single handedly going to thrust Beast Druid into the spotlight.
- Medivh's Valet. A 2 mana Fire Elemental will be an auto-include in any Mage deck that runs Ice Block, could even see play in Tempo Mage if they start running secrets. Huge buff to Wild Mage, broken in a deck that runs Mad Scientist.
- Netherspite Historian. An excellent card for slower Dragon decks. If you run Dragons and you aren't a face deck, this is an autoinclude. Discover is a proven mechanic and the Dragon Tribe is really powerful so there's not much chance of whiffing.
[*]The Legendaries: Curator and Barnes. Not much to add. I think these cards have a very high upside when people figure out the decks they belong in.
Biggest Winners:
Druid and Mage; Dragon Decks.
Stop giving blizz ideas man, lol
no idea what could be the best way to put the card in there since I don't play the deck at all; maybe you can remove one spell for one Giant.
Well... in the current meta, I'd go Mage for sure. However, Yogg'n'Load Hunter probably got a buff with Kara so maybe wait and see.
you could argue the menagerie thing is Kharazan's, rewarding a deck with a mixture of minion types and synergies.
That's unfair. This expansion brought multi-tribe synergy (Zoobot, Curator, Other Zoobot) and the Portal spells.
If you're going to give BRM credit for Emperor than you have to give Kara credit for Barnes because, like ET, it's an extremely powerful effect when used in the right deck.
You didn't see the hidden card text: "FU-Priest: Reduce your chance to fight a priest deck to almost 0%"
I suppose it's mostly a passive feature (deck building). It's not like Inspire or Discover.
Emperor is insane as it affects cards immediately.
Barnes is RNG dependent. Note I could have said shredder and Dr. Boom for GvG.
As for Portal Spells, where is Priest's? What's the theme?
I did buy BRM recently as I only had the first wing and said it was the most disappointing adventure expansion. I guess this is the standard Blizzard wants for its expansions.
Think this will lead to a bunch of Priest players BM'ing every game.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
oh wow
I just can't get over how pointless Purify is. I know we're beating it to death, but when Silence already exists as a 0 mana card, why would you ever play Purify? Even when Blizz makes other bad cards I can see what they are thinking. Here, it's like they forgot Priest already had the most efficient silence in the game.
Oh well, I think some of those other cards are pretty sweet. That new giant is ludicrous.
But I do agree that it's kind of a bummer that this adventure doesn't have any cards to build a deck around. I guess we were spoiled with all the cool shit from LoE.
Oh well, I think some of those other cards are pretty sweet. That new giant is ludicrous.
But I do agree that it's kind of a bummer that this adventure doesn't have any cards to build a deck around. I guess we were spoiled with all the cool shit from LoE.
I'm not sure if it's entertaining or just sad seeing every new generation of Hearthstone players realizing that the Hearthstone team only care about making as much money with the minimum amount of work. Those of us who have been around from the start have realized this ever since GvG.
I think this new expansion has introduced 5 or 6 staple cards, a small handful of good-to-okay cards, and some completely worthless crap.
Seems about right. Even LOE (the best loved expansion) has some really bad cards.
Unless you're a Priest main (or had some ridiculous expectation that we were going to get some solid control cards), there's really no reason to be flipping tables over the reveals.
Maybe I'm just cynical, but the reveals were honestly about what I was expecting.
I think the single player content is going to be really fun, the meta is going to get a bit faster, and Priest is going to stay in the dumpster in Standard.
At least Priest has a top tier Wild deck--Rogue is pretty mediocre in both formats and you don't see Rogue mains starting ridiculous petitions or shitposting Reddit all day.
Seems about right. Even LOE (the best loved expansion) has some really bad cards.
Unless you're a Priest main (or had some ridiculous expectation that we were going to get some solid control cards), there's really no reason to be flipping tables over the reveals.
Maybe I'm just cynical, but the reveals were honestly about what I was expecting.
I think the single player content is going to be really fun, the meta is going to get a bit faster, and Priest is going to stay in the dumpster in Standard.
At least Priest has a top tier Wild deck--Rogue is pretty mediocre in both formats and you don't see Rogue mains starting ridiculous petitions or shitposting Reddit all day.
I was willing to give the dev team the benefit of the doubt for a while, and I didn't want to be one of those guys who just goes around bitching about Hearthstone all the time, but: do they even fucking play the game?
They must. This isn't a FFXI situation where the developers are completely clueless, but I feel like any 'play testing' that goes into new cards and sets must only happen in the dev team's own little bubble. I can't imagine anyone testing some of these cards out against the top decks being played on ladder right now and still think they're worth a damn. I'm sure they put in work against one of their teammate's shitty random deck, though.
The developers also seem to have a real problem with everything either being just a little too weak to see play or completely fucking bonkers. Like that Priest minion that revives dead minions could be playable if you discovered a dead minion to bring back instead of it being totally random. You'd still run into situations where you get to pick from three 1/1 tokens or whatever, but at least you'd be able to put in some input to not get trash.
Then if the devs want to see a specific type of deck being played, they just print broken bullshit to make it happen. No one's playing secrets? Make Mad Scientist. No one's playing Paladin secrets, even with the broken-ass scientist? Make Mysterious Challenger. No one's playing Shaman? Throw fucking everything at them. No one likes our crappy Beast Druid ideas? Fuck it, break everything. People have been joking about this, but everyone should look out for Priest to become stupid broken across the next couple of sets after all the backlash.
They must. This isn't a FFXI situation where the developers are completely clueless, but I feel like any 'play testing' that goes into new cards and sets must only happen in the dev team's own little bubble. I can't imagine anyone testing some of these cards out against the top decks being played on ladder right now and still think they're worth a damn. I'm sure they put in work against one of their teammate's shitty random deck, though.
The developers also seem to have a real problem with everything either being just a little too weak to see play or completely fucking bonkers. Like that Priest minion that revives dead minions could be playable if you discovered a dead minion to bring back instead of it being totally random. You'd still run into situations where you get to pick from three 1/1 tokens or whatever, but at least you'd be able to put in some input to not get trash.
Then if the devs want to see a specific type of deck being played, they just print broken bullshit to make it happen. No one's playing secrets? Make Mad Scientist. No one's playing Paladin secrets, even with the broken-ass scientist? Make Mysterious Challenger. No one's playing Shaman? Throw fucking everything at them. No one likes our crappy Beast Druid ideas? Fuck it, break everything. People have been joking about this, but everyone should look out for Priest to become stupid broken across the next couple of sets after all the backlash.
Mobius and pet octopus
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I've never become that cynical
I also didn't expect priest to be turned around in a single adventure expansion. Same with rogue, unfortunately rogue still lacks board clears or sustain. The immune card is interesting, but its probably not much if any better than earthen ring farseer.
Priest and Rogue are my two mains.
I don't hate the adventure, but Blizzard's got some 'splainin to do.
Will keep playing Priest, and will try ALL the new cards. Really interested in making Spell Shaman.
Gonna get Gold before next X-Pac so I can claim OG Priest rights.
Sigh
And that one game out of every 5 where you get that combo it would be awesome. The other 4/5 games you will lose horribly.
Mobius and pet octopus
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I remember ancient watcher decks had a moment in the spotlight back in classic. There are a number of ways to activate them, silence and taunt being the primary ones. Now you could feasibly have double the silences in priest and you can double the minions (eerie statue). Maybe you even include ragnaros and icehowl (for second turn hits). Argent watchman is another card with can't attack text although I doubt it's worth it for that one.
Wailing soul is another card that silenced your own minions and was nothing more than a 3/5. People actually tried to make that work, stacking the board with ancient watchers or other cards and silencing them all. Purify is a silence your own minion that is nothing more than a cantrip. At 2 mana it seems a little expensive since cantrips are usually costed around 1.5~ mana I think, perhaps even less in priest, which means the silence portion is expensive as well as too difficult to utilize. It could have been easily priced at 1 mana imo, or even 0.
For what it's worth, I am glad it's only friendly minions it can target. I'd imagine that if it were a silence any target and draw a card, that'd be the strongest silence in the game. I am kinda glad silence is largely out the door. But this card, probably should have been in a larger expansion where filler cards like these kinda get a pass for existing.
Wailing soul is another card that silenced your own minions and was nothing more than a 3/5. People actually tried to make that work, stacking the board with ancient watchers or other cards and silencing them all. Purify is a silence your own minion that is nothing more than a cantrip. At 2 mana it seems a little expensive since cantrips are usually costed around 1.5~ mana I think, perhaps even less in priest, which means the silence portion is expensive as well as too difficult to utilize. It could have been easily priced at 1 mana imo, or even 0.
For what it's worth, I am glad it's only friendly minions it can target. I'd imagine that if it were a silence any target and draw a card, that'd be the strongest silence in the game. I am kinda glad silence is largely out the door. But this card, probably should have been in a larger expansion where filler cards like these kinda get a pass for existing.
Mobius and pet octopus
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I wonder how bad elise rogue would be, with yogg cause yogg is their best board clear lul
Double owl handlock, with 4 taunt activators and double shadowflame lol
Double owl handlock, with 4 taunt activators and double shadowflame lol
Cycle for zero, maybe. I might try it and toss it on my minions that have a battlecry. At 2 mana it's overcosted, specially in priest.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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Exactly but I never liked Handlock. It punished you so much developing the board.
Compare Purify to Commanding Shout. Not only is Commanding Shout a straight-up good effect if you're looking to trade, (versus only a handful of things in your deck not minding silence) but you can play it on an empty board just for the cycle. Purify can't even do that.
Yeah it's bad, I was trying to live in a hypothetical world where it cost zero and the chances of someone playing it
Honestly, I give them the benefit of the doubt on the cards they print since balancing a game like this is difficult and because of the delay from conception to release, they are always a step or two behind the current meta.
The lack of UI improvements and other game client features such as stat tracking, replays, etc. is very disappointing. Especially when you compare the game to other Blizzard titles like Overwatch or HotS which continually pump out new content and have all this extra stuff. It makes me wonder what Team 5 does all day since designing cards is not that labor intensive.
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