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Yeah, that seems like the situation where Dragon Priest would be relevant at. It's mainly Dragonfire Bomb that swings it the favor of the Priest.
Blizzard clearly is not going to stop until Bolster Taunt Warrior is going to be a thing. Can't wait for 3 mana 6/7 Taunt.
The Paladin card is yet another "I am going to play a crap ton of weenie aggro minions and vomit them on the board" card. I think it has to hit AT LEAST 3 minions for it to be worth it and guess which card pulls exactly 3 1 drops from your deck...
The Trogg itself isn't a beast which hurts it. Otherwise it's an alright card.
You don't beat it with Dragon Priest. Best you can do is tech in Ragnaros.
The hunter card is bad. Kindly Grandmother is just way better.
The Paladin card seems interesting. It's kind of like a 2 mana Sword of Justice. It doesn't pair well with Steward of Darkshire but maybe it is a decent 2 drop in a midrange or control Paladin? Maybe not control. Too many spells.
The warrior card could just absolutely wreck zoo (6/7 fierce monkey) but it is very punishable by classes with hard removal.
The Paladin card seems interesting. It's kind of like a 2 mana Sword of Justice. It doesn't pair well with Steward of Darkshire but maybe it is a decent 2 drop in a midrange or control Paladin? Maybe not control. Too many spells.
The warrior card could just absolutely wreck zoo (6/7 fierce monkey) but it is very punishable by classes with hard removal.
giving 1/1 to divine shield minions is a really big deal. I think it could be good if there are more cheap divine shield minions.
We have argent squire and argent horserider, both get like very good with this... if it hits them. yeah how consistent that is. There is the new legendary too.
Still other creatures like Argent Protector that you will play in a deck like this get better too, 3/3 2 drop give something divine shield is quite nuts.
Most importantly your other creature don't all die to ravaging ghoul or FoK now. I think it's ok but it's hard to evaluate, it depends on what other cheap creature there is. Current card pool isn't great right now.
The card is much better than mistcaller because it cost 2 duh
We have argent squire and argent horserider, both get like very good with this... if it hits them. yeah how consistent that is. There is the new legendary too.
Still other creatures like Argent Protector that you will play in a deck like this get better too, 3/3 2 drop give something divine shield is quite nuts.
Most importantly your other creature don't all die to ravaging ghoul or FoK now. I think it's ok but it's hard to evaluate, it depends on what other cheap creature there is. Current card pool isn't great right now.
The card is much better than mistcaller because it cost 2 duh
Familienoberhauptvogel
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Please blizzard stop trying and give us some good spells.
Honestly I don't like that card in aggro paladin. Too slow. It might help you against Ravaging Ghouls but not most other board clears.
I'm more inclined to think Midrange where the full +1/+1 stats will matter more and it would be in a deck that has a bad Turn 2 anyway.
It is pretty disgusting with Argent Horserider, though. 3/2 charge divine shield is kind of a 5 mana card.
a 6 mana 5/9 taunt when paired with bloodhoof brave? It can potentially become a 8/8
hmm, that could work.. and it would at least waste a hard removal from the opponent
I also like the paladin card, there aren't that much turn 2 optimal minions for paladin and this can be one
hmm, that could work.. and it would at least waste a hard removal from the opponent
I also like the paladin card, there aren't that much turn 2 optimal minions for paladin and this can be one
It wouldn't be wasted. They used 1 card to kill 2 of your cards. Two-for-oneing yourself is bad. That card is amazingly bad against hard removal. Much more likely to screw with a deck that doesn't run silence or hard removal. Like zoo. Maybe Druid, if it doesn't get Mulched.
Is no cardback confirmed? If so, that's an odd decision. I doubt I will preorder if one isn't included.
forgot paladin got a new 1 drop, this card activates that one. Then there is selfless hero too which is quite powerful if it has +1/+1.
I'd say the card is pretty good and some stupid deck like the one reynad had in that tournament early this year with tinyfin, wisps things like that could be scary, The aim is to put some really scary stats on board by turn 3. dump that hand.
I look forward to that trolden video, when a guy coins it out then plays 4 2/2s for 0 lol.
I'd say the card is pretty good and some stupid deck like the one reynad had in that tournament early this year with tinyfin, wisps things like that could be scary, The aim is to put some really scary stats on board by turn 3. dump that hand.
I look forward to that trolden video, when a guy coins it out then plays 4 2/2s for 0 lol.
Lagspike_exe
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Aggro paladin is going to be so much fun to play.
this is true..
may be a huge wall for zoo, but all in all this is a risky card to put, and it can use 2 slots that could be used in other cards
My guess is that they probably tested it as a beast and was found to be too good/auto include status.
the hunter card is probably going to wait until after king's elek rotates out, that's just a much better upside, then if you want more 2 drops in midrange hunter it could be one of the better options, flame juggler won't be around then either, mid range hunter is seemingly dead right now though but it could come back if control is more popular. I get the impression that they're lowering the power level of cheap creatures finally so we're getting cards like these now. It's going to be the standard, not what you're used to see.
Both Hungry Toad and King's Elekk are rotating out at the same time so that makes space for this card to see play in the future in Midrange Beast Hunter deck.
It's like you got all the cards mirrored. The hunter one is the best and the warrior one the worst.
I can't see this minion ever being played unless Hunters are really desperate for a 2-drop in the future. Adding +1/+1 to a random minion in hand just isn't a good enough effect. If it was, Forlorn Stalker would be seeing play. Not to mention it doesn't even buff the on-curve 3-drop that Hunters want to play.
SonicXtreme
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do i bring midrange shaman to a 3 deck swiss style 1 ban tournament? the main reason i'm hesitant is because i don't have harrison so my deck is very vanilla, and i feel there's a super high chance that'll get teched against. def gonna bring secret hunter, that's just annoying as shit to play against and i don't think it's as likely to get teched. debating the last two though.
i play a lot of wild so as far as standard goes i can go mage...nzoth priest, rez priest (lol), dragon priest, i could make a warrior but i lack barron geddon which makes me not want to...disco lock, beast or ramp druid (lul), unfortunately i can't stand rogue or mally decks (did i mention i hate this meta?). i guess i have the cards to make any pally deck but they're not good right now for tourneys are they? Any suggestions ? Haven't hit a tourney in like a year
i play a lot of wild so as far as standard goes i can go mage...nzoth priest, rez priest (lol), dragon priest, i could make a warrior but i lack barron geddon which makes me not want to...disco lock, beast or ramp druid (lul), unfortunately i can't stand rogue or mally decks (did i mention i hate this meta?). i guess i have the cards to make any pally deck but they're not good right now for tourneys are they? Any suggestions ? Haven't hit a tourney in like a year
the warrior card is so bad I didn't even bother thinking about it. You essentially play it on a turn, it does nothing, you pass your turn lol.
For it to do anything, you need to have taunt in your hand. There are not that many good taunts to play even in warrior, If you're playing too many taunts, more than 4, your deck is just terrible. It's like noob trap the card. I've noticed how new players have this tendency to have many taunts in their decks, you lose so much tempo playing taunt usually, that's why belcher was insane, it was just that good.
Then even if we assume you have this taunt heavy deck, what if this hits the wrong target so that you can't curve out like you imagined in your fantasy? this isn't ramp.
I'm sure Blizzard has this fantasy deck with bolster, I know a guy and protect the king that appeals a lot to new players but these fantasy land combo wombos never work in competitive environment. Not every card is made for competitive players. Some type of players like this kind of cards, it's fun when it works I guess.
For it to do anything, you need to have taunt in your hand. There are not that many good taunts to play even in warrior, If you're playing too many taunts, more than 4, your deck is just terrible. It's like noob trap the card. I've noticed how new players have this tendency to have many taunts in their decks, you lose so much tempo playing taunt usually, that's why belcher was insane, it was just that good.
Then even if we assume you have this taunt heavy deck, what if this hits the wrong target so that you can't curve out like you imagined in your fantasy? this isn't ramp.
I'm sure Blizzard has this fantasy deck with bolster, I know a guy and protect the king that appeals a lot to new players but these fantasy land combo wombos never work in competitive environment. Not every card is made for competitive players. Some type of players like this kind of cards, it's fun when it works I guess.
BananasWithGuns
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I think the Hunter card has potential to be run now or in the future.
Paladin card seems at odds with itself. Obviously built for flood decks but you don't want to be saving all your cards just to give them +1/+1.
Warrior card seems like it would be really insane if you can hit it on a Fierce Monkey or Bloodhoof Brave in the early game. Is that worth a card and two mana though? I'm not sure.
Paladin card seems at odds with itself. Obviously built for flood decks but you don't want to be saving all your cards just to give them +1/+1.
Warrior card seems like it would be really insane if you can hit it on a Fierce Monkey or Bloodhoof Brave in the early game. Is that worth a card and two mana though? I'm not sure.
How often can you afford to pass turn 2 to make your turn 3 a bit better?
There is too much hard removal available from turn 4 on for that to be a great move. And that is largely best case scenario.
BlackBuzzard
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Reynoodle messed up his reveal.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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Speaking of bad cards.
Lagspike_exe
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Reynoodle messed up his reveal.
And now it all makes sense. Pump this to 5/10 and either force a hard remove or watch your armor go crazy up. This expansion looks so much fun. I really think it'll shake up the meta immensely.
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thepotatoman
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If Trogg Beastrager was a beast himself, he'd be equal to or slightly better than Kindly Grandmother. Tempo-wise you'd much rather have the higher stated 3/2 have the immediate impact on the board, with the 1/1 worth of value coming out later.
Not being a beast makes me think Huge Toad and/or King's Ellek is a little bit better.
Not being a beast makes me think Huge Toad and/or King's Ellek is a little bit better.
Reynoodle messed up his reveal.
Does this mean if it gets attacked, its effect will proc, too?
Lagspike_exe
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Yes. Which means that after stat boost it becomes incredibly powerful.
If it's not obvious, I thought the Paladin card was the best.
The Hunter card is just not that good. I think it's worse than King's Elekk. It certainly doesn't fit in Secret Hunter which has very few beasts in it. It's fair but Hunter doesn't need fair.
Edit: Paladin card is best. Not worst.
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thepotatoman
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Yeah, Grimestreet Outfitter is pure garbage. We've seen how much value giving cards in your hand or deck +1/+1 is, and it's not much. You're put too far behind in tempo earily game to get good tempo out of it, and +1/+1 just isn't quite meaningful enough late game.
Sword of Justice might have been better, since at least it's less conditional on having minions in hand.
And bolster warrior cards are bolster warrior cards. Nothing worth saying there.
Sword of Justice might have been better, since at least it's less conditional on having minions in hand.
And bolster warrior cards are bolster warrior cards. Nothing worth saying there.
that card doesn't see play exactly because it's a 3 drop and it's a 4/2 that's not good, you don't need more 3 drops in hunter, not a bad one like that. You will need more 2 drops eventually and this is good enough because it will be the best you will have. Mid hunter typically plays 4-6 2 drops. It's crucial to have something on 2, there are many many better options on 3.
True. I don't think the card/effect is good but might see play if Hunters' only other option at the 2-slot is, like, Bloodfen Raptor or something.
Mobius and pet octopus
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I think beastrager is playable. It's probably better than huge toad or at least as good.
The warrior taunt is maybe playable at a later date. Only good in taunt focused warrior decks right now. But later after justicar is rotated out, maybe a good way to get 10 or more armor. If you have that at 5 attack and your opponent actually has to attack through it, that could be 15 health right there, plus the damage prevented by the taunt itself. That could be huge. Maybe it's good enough now on that basis.
The warrior taunt is maybe playable at a later date. Only good in taunt focused warrior decks right now. But later after justicar is rotated out, maybe a good way to get 10 or more armor. If you have that at 5 attack and your opponent actually has to attack through it, that could be 15 health right there, plus the damage prevented by the taunt itself. That could be huge. Maybe it's good enough now on that basis.
7 health gain a bunch of armor taunt for 5-mana is nothing to laugh at. Depending on the meta, it can be a new staple for slow warrior decks or a dead card if everyone plays priest.
It's so clearly a pair for the terrible taunt spell. A 5 mana Ancient of War with armor gain is a terrifying concept.
Yeah I didn't claim it's great or anything, but clearly the best of those three.
It's so clearly a pair for the terrible taunt spell. A 5 mana Ancient of War with armor gain is a terrifying concept.
Yeah I didn't claim it's great or anything, but clearly the best of those three.
Isn't the Twitch Prime stuff supposed to drop today? I can't see it.
Thanks. I can see this see play then but I'm probably wrong.
Thanks. I can see this see play then but I'm probably wrong.
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