The healing removes the surprise aspect though.
Also you can get all secrets which would suck.
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The healing removes the surprise aspect though.
Also you can get all secrets which would suck.
At 6 you know it's Enter the Coliseum or Avenging Wrath, but there are multiple other types of spells at 2 or 4 mana.
Edge case, not really worth considering in terms of card evaluation. Noble Sac or Redemption aren't even that bad.
Sucks if you need healing but being able to grab a Noble Sac when you really need it isn't the worst thing in the world.
Mobius and pet octopus
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I wonder about that. I think it definitely narrows it down quite a bit. Perhaps lay on hands would be super obvious. I don't think other options are that obvious.
I've been thinking about how to evaluate this card precisely. If the body is roughly 4 mana and the heal is roughly 2, we'd want to see 6-8 health. But because there is discovery, that number would not represent the full value. Because it's always a spell, that warrants even higher value.
Looking at it from discover first, that's gotta be worth at least 1.5 mana I think. Some decks might prefer card draw but paladin is not one of those imo. So then we're talking about .5-1 mana towards the heal which would be around 4 health.
I think this is a pretty good card tbh.
Curator might be okay in CW, being able to draw Fierce Monkey, Alexstraza and Corrupted Seer off the battlecry seems good.
Would really hurt in a mirror match up you expect to go to fatigue, but maybe you just hold the card and either play it after you've drawn those cards, so the battlecry doesn't proc, or you use the Golden Monkey to convert it to a different legendary.
Would really hurt in a mirror match up you expect to go to fatigue, but maybe you just hold the card and either play it after you've drawn those cards, so the battlecry doesn't proc, or you use the Golden Monkey to convert it to a different legendary.
Mobius and pet octopus
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Ethereal peddler is just a body in rogue mirror matches =/
Some one /r/competitiveHS did the math, the chance of discovering 3 1-mana spells is 6.7%.
Healbot was a staple of many midrange Paladin decks.
3/3 with 8 heal.
So you're paying 1 mana more for a RNG 3 card draw with a heal attached to cost.
Maybe some people expected a 10/10 Paladin card for 6 Mana + lose 2 mana crystals. Call it David the Goliath.
Alternatively, maybe a 5/5 that summons a 5/5 both with 1 mana reduction deathrattle and call it David and the Goliath.
I guess that's for Standard huh?
In Arena / Wild, the chance would be slightly higher.
One wing per week, launching every Thursday, and you'll be able spend the 19.99, get the cardback, and buy the whole adventure no later than August 11th. They may do preorders but since Brode didn't specifically mention them I'm planning on the 11th.
interesting question. did the 1/1 card costed 1 mana in the exhibition match they showed?
EDIT: I was wrong... it's activated on 1 health minions, not 1 mana. It should work
Portugeezer
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It's a 1/1 so it should work.
Works on every other 1 health minion that appears on your board, so I would certainly say so.
Princess Carl
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So yeah, pretty garbage start to this adventure. Thank god you can hold back cards and balance because you're making so much money, there's literally no incentive to improve or really try anything interesting at all!
You've almost weened me off this game completely Blizzard, all by yourself.
You've almost weened me off this game completely Blizzard, all by yourself.
Princess Carl
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nothing like whining about whining cause??? what a poster.
HS has been the community with the most whine I've seen in all gaf. I don't see moba threads so probably those have even more.
not exactly contributing anything here, buddy
What is garbage about it? The two legendaries revealed so far seem like nice build-around cards while the other cards range from OK to great.
Lone_Prodigy
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I've been saving coins for this. Can't wait.
Does this phase out BRM?
Does this phase out BRM?
GAF always has a couple people that go "shit sux" whenever new cards are revealed. This expansion will shake up the meta just as all other expansions have, and many of the cards revealed are perfectly playable and some are even really interesting. Like people are shitting on Curator but to me it looks like one of the most fascinating build-around cards revealed since Reno Jackson.
sad to see how it is only for hunter, doesn't seem to have much use. I wanted it for zoo decks
Princess Carl
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theres nothing here to indicate any intention of balancing the 9 current classes for their "Standard" competitive format. There's nothing here to indicate any intention of introducing spells cards that aren't, "here's some dmg and/or a random minion of the equivalent cost".
How's that for a start, off the top of my head. I'm sorry but I don't see how this isnt more of the same for a game built upon supposedly not being constrained by the limitations of physical card games.
Karsticles
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My only real disappointment was the stream. What was that...10 minutes of actual content discussion after 20 minutes talking about China Joy? I expected more card reveals. At LEAST one per class. :-/
Mobius and pet octopus
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I expected about 5 cards but I didn't expect them to take so long to get to those reveals.
I did expect a few more in the showcase matches though.
Yeah I am in agreement with this, no card revealed is woefully or comically bad like Mogor the Champion. These cards are at the very least usable or "good enough for Arena".
I guess I'm glad I didn't stayed up just to see the stream
are these announcements so lame always?
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
10 minutes of interview and 15 of content
Princess Carl
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That feels like a pretty low bar this far into the game.
Well, you also do get the spell card you chose.
Princess Carl
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You mean pushing it whilst simultaneously having ZERO good cards and synergies for it? And splitting them all up over a couple classes? And not making more cards to satisfy this archetype after over a year?
Nah man it's totally a well thought out idea.
Every single card shown looks playable and/or interesting. I honestly don't get your beef.
We've seen, what, 10% of the set too? Like, let's wait and see how it plays out first.
Don't forget Curator is a Mech too. ;P
Don't forget Curator is a Mech too. ;P
Mobius and pet octopus
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You know they actually do have strong synergy cards for these races right?
I don't even understand how you could say this even if you meant it lightly.
Princess Carl
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You know they actually do have strong synergy cards for these races right?
I don't even understand how you could say this even if you meant it lightly.
Ok and then what else to complete the deck to make it viable?
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
I don't know they only showed off 7 out of 45 cards
Me and many others have been severely crushed by murloc decks, don't know what you are talking here.
dragon have problems though, but mainly because they are usually mana expensive cards
Princess Carl
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One off games with perfect draw are certainly not indicative of a successful archetype.
Mobius and pet octopus
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There already is a murloc paladin deck. In wild you can make an OTK murloc paladin deck. In standard you can make a midrange or control/combo-ish murloc paladin deck. Double anyfin can happen can be incredibly powerful.
Just a couple more paladin specific examples:
Man, I can tell you you're wrong there. Here is Kolento, one of the best players in the comp scene, running murloc paladin (pre-wotg).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FgJKRSz1zA
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