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Crafting legendaries as a F2P player is a huge grind. My current plan is: Ragnaros > N'Zoth > Yogg > Harrison > Tirion/ Grom/ Fandral
Currently have Dr. Boom, Sylvans, Leeroy, Ysera, Cho Gall, Halleazal, Mistcaller plus the adventure legendaries.
I really want to craft some of the less played legendaries (Confessor Paletress, Mukla, Xaril, Gormok) but with TGT rotating out soon it's not really worth it. I'm even on the fence of crafting N'Zoth and Yogg: I think when I have enough dust for them WotOG will be almost out as well.
Currently have Dr. Boom, Sylvans, Leeroy, Ysera, Cho Gall, Halleazal, Mistcaller plus the adventure legendaries.
I really want to craft some of the less played legendaries (Confessor Paletress, Mukla, Xaril, Gormok) but with TGT rotating out soon it's not really worth it. I'm even on the fence of crafting N'Zoth and Yogg: I think when I have enough dust for them WotOG will be almost out as well.
Mobius and pet octopus
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You drank the haterade on ethereal peddler though!
I just wanna point out that if he hits 1 card for reduced mana he is putting in work since he is already a 5/6 for 5. I'm not saying he is going to be great or even played, but as for value, I think it's there. Well, I think he is playable. I dunno if the deck will be great or not.
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thepotatoman
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Gorillabot outright made the Mech Rogue deck, decks revolving around Summoning Stone saw some tournament play, Naga Sea Witch is used in some ramp druid decks (including all of my ramp druid decks), and Tomb Spider saw some play in non-warlock Reno decks where draw is harder to come by.
I would also call Ivory Knight too close to Guardian of Kings, Zoobot having questionable deck synergies from the currently revealed set, and Babbling Book being outright terrible over a replacement of a consistently good spell.
In anycase, I think the larger critique in comparison to LOE is how impactful those cards are, because even if they are usable, it doesn't necessarily make them impactful. But I suppose it's a little too much to ask for every expansion to be LOE levels of quality.
Mobius and pet octopus
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Elite Tauren Chieftan saw tournament play, I wouldn't call it a good card still.
Super Nothing
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Nah, Moroes is trash. He has some synergy with Steward of Darkshire and Addled Grizzly, but that's about it. He's a 3 mana version of Hogger but worse since he's way under statted unless you get at least 2 Stewards off of him. He also dies to just about anything, so that's not likely to happen. I don't see him getting played in any token decks over cards like Imp Master or Bilefin Tidehunter. Maybe he would be playable if he summoned 2 1/1s on the turn he's played, but even then he'd still be a weak Muster for Battle.
Mobius and pet octopus
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Playing n'zoth rogue has given me newfound respect for undercity huckster. When you get a good spell, it's made easier to use by prep and cycles with auctioneer all the same. Now extend that concept to any card you get being reduced in cost by ethereal peddler. I think it could be pretty great tbh.
I think the legit criticism is that maybe 2 hucksters isn't enough and you want a burgle or two. And burgle is quite slow for rogue. That may be what holds it back from working out well. On the other hand, I think people haven't considered the fact that huckster curves naturally into unearthed raptor. I actually get a lot of copies off that tbh. It's not unusual at least.
I think the legit criticism is that maybe 2 hucksters isn't enough and you want a burgle or two. And burgle is quite slow for rogue. That may be what holds it back from working out well. On the other hand, I think people haven't considered the fact that huckster curves naturally into unearthed raptor. I actually get a lot of copies off that tbh. It's not unusual at least.
That's what I normally try to do, but I reached the point where I can build most of the decks but lack the legendaries required to play the best version of them. Patron Warrior with no Grom, Miracle Rogue without Edwin, Tempo Mage without Rag and Yogg.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
Drafted alexstrasza and it carried me to 6 wins in arena wooo
So far I think only these are usable in competitive decks (which also means on Ladder):
Kindly Grandmother
Firelands Portal
Malchezaar Imp (mostly because it's still a 1 mana 1/3)
Barnes
Curator
Book Wyrm
Enchanted Raven
Of these Barnes, Kindly Grandmother and Curator are the best ones but they don't compare yet to the best cards in LoE. But we still have 2/3rds of the cards left so still have time.
Mobius and pet octopus
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I think it'll work in some OTK decks. It won't work in worgen warrior thank god. You can't exactly enrage a 1/1 minion lol. Maybe for malygos rogue though.
I think it'll be close to insane in n'zoth though. At least there still are less high value deathrattles compared to wild, which is why this card even exists I think. I'd imagine it's going to be insane in wild with getting pilotted shredders, haunted creepers, sludge belchers...
I'm still pretty new and even I know this aint right lol.
* I agree those cards not over-used like Sylvannas but they get some use in fringe decks. some gafs always complain bout stale meta but yet I do see some of these cards get some play
It never ceases to be hilarious watching a streamer rope and make the worst decision because he has no time left, or to attack with a minion or "forget" that animations happen causing them to rope out.
Officerrob
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I'm guessing StrifeCro or Lifecoach.
irfaanator
Banned
im just waiting to get disappointed by the priest cards
Aside from beta when Priest had the 8 mana Mind Control... has Priest ever been tier 1 for a decent amount of time?
I think they were at their strongest right after TGT when they could utilize Dragon Priest at its maximum power level. Aside from that I can't think of a time where Priest had a dominant deck. By far it has been the weakest class in HS.
I think they were at their strongest right after TGT when they could utilize Dragon Priest at its maximum power level. Aside from that I can't think of a time where Priest had a dominant deck. By far it has been the weakest class in HS.
Undertaker priest? Pre-nerf
toddhunter
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Deathrattle priest was pretty good, that is the only one I can think of. Mind you deathrattle anything was top with undertaker.
I'd expect priest changes to come next expansion. This seems to be pretty low key so far, it wouldn't even beat blackrock mountain in a fight.
Mobius and pet octopus
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Priest was not tier 1 with 8 mana mind control. They were bottom tier, mid at best.
irfaanator
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tier 1 in wild I guess, but dont think so. control priest was alright pre standard but you still had to rely on drawing the right cards otherwise you just lost
Mobius and pet octopus
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I think priest has had it's moments. But it's never been a class that is great across the field. Dragon priest and undertaker priest (still not tier 1 imo) were the closest they got I think. It's a shame I guess, but consider that shaman never had the spotlight til recent and people rage anyway... lol.
That's what I said before in this thread but got ravaged.
And Undertaker Priest still did not measure up to Undertaker Zoolock or Undertaker Hunter.
remove entomb and then maybe, maybe I'll feel for priest. Even though I run entomb on my priest. priest are crazy annoying to deal with. They sort of enforced this meta we're in cause if you play a big card it would just get removed/mind controlled/entombed.
I see them every month during my climbs up to 15 (well last month I played for a little while til I hit 15). if they sucked so bad then why is the lower ranks filled to the brim with this class? perhaps in top 5% you wont see them but I can confirm all the way to 15 thats all I freaking saw pretty much
maybe this month I'll try to climb in ranked. usually I just see how far I get in one sitting and then I don't usually play it much afterwards
[edit] I vote for Rogue as worst class. And I mean a rogue with no fancy legendaries like van clef
I see them every month during my climbs up to 15 (well last month I played for a little while til I hit 15). if they sucked so bad then why is the lower ranks filled to the brim with this class? perhaps in top 5% you wont see them but I can confirm all the way to 15 thats all I freaking saw pretty much
maybe this month I'll try to climb in ranked. usually I just see how far I get in one sitting and then I don't usually play it much afterwards
[edit] I vote for Rogue as worst class. And I mean a rogue with no fancy legendaries like van clef
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
Is Gladiator's Longbow worth dusting
I looked at some archives and there was ONE TIME where Priest was tier 1.
October 2013. And even when it was at its peak, it actually didn't win a tournament during this time LOL!.
And it's really hard to talk about HS in 2013 when balance changes were so quick and rampant. Like cards were being reworked left and right back then.
October 2013. And even when it was at its peak, it actually didn't win a tournament during this time LOL!.
And it's really hard to talk about HS in 2013 when balance changes were so quick and rampant. Like cards were being reworked left and right back then.
Karsticles
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I used to use it, and I was a fan. Hunter can't heal itself, so two 5-damage nukes for 7 mana and only one card is pretty good. You can also just go face with it twice for 10 damage.
In this meta, I struggle to find room for it. Call of the Wild is just too stupid not to have two of, and you don't want your curve to be too high. You're already running two 6-drops with Highmane.
So, IMO, it's not dust tier, but it's not a strong pick right now, either.
Solid Control Hunter card but Control Hunter is still meme worthy.
Control Crusher Shaman on the other hand... isn't too bad these days. Oddly enough it does pretty bad against Aggro/Midrange Shaman due to the Hexes but against other classes that don't have a silence removal... those massive taunts do a lot of work.
It's a shame that Ancestral Spirit doesn't work with N'zoth... you could've made a killer Crusher N'zoth Shaman deck.
Control Crusher Shaman on the other hand... isn't too bad these days. Oddly enough it does pretty bad against Aggro/Midrange Shaman due to the Hexes but against other classes that don't have a silence removal... those massive taunts do a lot of work.
It's a shame that Ancestral Spirit doesn't work with N'zoth... you could've made a killer Crusher N'zoth Shaman deck.
Officerrob
Banned
I hope Kripp uploads this Brawl game he's playing, because this might be the dumbest shit I've ever seen
signed integer overflow. It has it's own wiki page
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2147483647_(number)
The more you know.
Kripp about to pull a "AND THIS IS TO GO EVEN FURTHER BEYOND!" moment.
1,677,721,728 final damage at the end. If he doubled one more time the Cho would've died. He had a back up Faceless Manipulator to test the maximum value.
Someone also discovered that the maximum turn the game can go to is turn 90.
And if you turn Stormwind into another hero like Ragnaros/Jaraxxus, upon killing it... it just turns back into Stormwind to the HP value it was at before it was transformed. So that's useless.
Alas, this Tavern Brawl is finally "beaten".
1,677,721,728 final damage at the end. If he doubled one more time the Cho would've died. He had a back up Faceless Manipulator to test the maximum value.
Someone also discovered that the maximum turn the game can go to is turn 90.
And if you turn Stormwind into another hero like Ragnaros/Jaraxxus, upon killing it... it just turns back into Stormwind to the HP value it was at before it was transformed. So that's useless.
Alas, this Tavern Brawl is finally "beaten".
I think that card needs not only another way of stealing cards for it to really work, but also another good taunt/heal for control/value Rogue to work. Maybe its good enough to throw in to Nzoth Rogue along with a burgle, we'll see.
While I don't recall there ever being a Mech Rogue or competitive Summoning Stone deck, sure many cards found some fringe use. Cards like Protect the King and Ethereal Peddler will see equivalent use to Naga Sea Witch.
Which is weird, because Kripp once had a Fatigue Warrior mirror with a real person go to turn 45 - and it ended immediately in a tie.
Different rules for Brawl?
Priest has a lot of expensive spells.
But you are right, Priest never had problems winning the control matchups. This doesn't really help against face decks.
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