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[Punished Miku]

Good for Tango! They deserved it.

Even better that MS are looking to increase the size of the Tango Team.

If I was MS I would just permanently be on a max hiring spree at Tango.

Probably not likely that they can acquire Japanese studios. But you can hire anyone that is willing to work there and just make it multiple teams and studios.

 

[Lasha]

I think Grubb backed it up as much as Greenburg tbh.
That being said, the game turned out good, so that’s my gauge of success.

Difference being that Greenburg is the authoritative voice on the matter. If he says Microsoft is happy then the burden is on Grubb to show evidence to the contrary.

 

[cireza]

Of course Hi-Fi Rush did well. That's pretty much what everything we saw and read about the game told us until today.

 

[DarkMage619]

10 pages incoming?

Let's make this positive about MS, Let's do it!

Is that job listing post thing true? 150 jobs for Tango?

AMAZING!

I'm CERTAIN this thread will be just as popular as the negative Grubb thread. Everyone loves a positive Xbox story!

 

[bender]

Jeff "Industry Insider" Grubb

 

[j.k.2021]

What a tragedy of a thread.

Solid and unique game, glad it did well.

Microsoft is one of the most wealthy corporations in the world and their wealth will likely increase more with Chatgpt success.So the clown here should worry more about their pockets instead of worrying about Microsoft finances.

 

[GHG]

The infighting has begun.

 

[analog_future]

Usually I'd say "there it is" .gif

Buuuuut... Aaron Greenberg hahaha you can't trust him as far as you can throw him... and he's not a small boy

Aaron Greenberg is about as trustworthy as that Colt Eastwood guy

greenberg is a liar clown

I believe you. The "60fps standard" guy.

If not just someone but Greenberg saying this then it definitely bombed.

So wheres the numbers?

Oh right...

GAF after an off-the-cuff comment in the middle of a 2 hour long podcast from someone who's been known to get details wrong on the regular:

GAF after the report is refuted by an actual VP that works for Microsoft:

 

[adamsapple]

Hi-Fi Rush is a fantastic game.

Deserves all the love and exposure.

 

[ANDS]

Eh.....I don't like Greenberg, but if a corporate executive directly refutes unsubstantiated rumors from a well-known journalist then I'm inclined to believe that executive.

Come on guys. He didn't "directly refute" anything. Did people actually listen to what this GRUBB fellow said about HFR: "it [HFR] didn't make the money it needed to make." Nothing in this GREENBERG comment addresses that comment unless you read sales performance into "key measurements and expectations." Like AG's comments are exactly the kind of executive speak folks say they cringe at, but it's now accepted as "Well there it is."

 

[Chukhopops]

Put it on PS....feels like a PS game anyway.

It would probably sell like crazy. They would get their "user engagement" from Gamepass players and they would "get dat MONEY" from PS players.
Or it wouldn't....because PS players would see this as a "ewww why would I pay for a game that's free on gamepass...gross".

Just test the waters.

Do the same thing they are going to do with CoD. They need PS players for CoD to be successful, just start doing that now.

Fuck...just start selling software...forget about your console.

Stop the port begging.

 

[Dr_Ifto]

I dont see why Greenberg would lie. If they had expectations, they would have marketed it and not shadowdropped it. I think it did well, word of mouth was great, and im not in the xbox circle of influence and people were talking about it enough for me to hear about it a lot.

 

[Topher]

Come on guys. He didn't "directly refute" anything. Did people actually listen to what this GRUBB fellow said about HFR: "it [HFR] didn't make the money it needed to make." Nothing in this GREENBERG comment addresses that comment unless you read sales performance into "key measurements and expectations." Like AG's comments are exactly the kind of executive speak folks say they cringe at, but it's now accepted as "Well there it is."

"Hi-Fi RUSH was a break out hit for us and our players in ALL key measurements and expectations. "

Yes, I'm reading "all key measurements and expectations" as including sales performance and that directly refutes Grubb.

 

[adamsapple]

 

[Captain Toad]

GAF after the report is refuted by an actual VP that works for Microsoft:

Refuted requires giving actual numbers, not meaningless vague statements like "trust me, the numbers are so great that we can't even share them".

Especially, coming from Greenberg who plays the role of Internet Xbox fanboy better than VP of anything and has been publicly contradicting himself for the last 10-15 years.

If you believe the public should know the success or lack of success of your software or hardware, share the numbers. But, refusing to do that while saying things are selling "well", is just hoping for your audience to be gullible.

 

[MDSLKTR]

How about not trust neither?

 

[Umbasaborne]

Well yes, he would say that, thats the pr line from
Microsoft

 

[vj27]

Honestly as long as they make a hi fi rush 2 idc. I wanna see them do different genres, a rap sequel would be fucking sick. Like if DJ hero and devil may cry had a baby sick. Then they could do a dubstep one, I hate dubstep but as far as Rhythm games go it has its place. Could make it like an anthology series of different music genres, that’d be so cool.

But then idk because licensing is a bitch, surprised they even got the songs they managed to get the first time around.

 

[Punished Miku]

But then idk because licensing is a bitch, surprised they even got the songs they managed to get the first time around.

I'm definitely going to buy it eventually when on sale for that reason.

 

[BbMajor7th]

I don't trust either of them, but if you're lurking in here, Greenberg, this game deserved way better marketing and promotion and MS should feel bad.

 

[Topher]

GAF after an off-the-cuff comment in the middle of a 2 hour long podcast from someone who's been known to get details wrong on the regular:

GAF after the report is refuted by an actual VP that works for Microsoft:

Weird how people feel the need to generalize "GAF" so much.

 

[Abriael_GN]

Grubb already started backtracking from his b.s. statement...

As expected. Ya'll really shouldn't blindly believe everything you hear on the internet. Grubb is a clout chaser who likely has some sources who tell him stuff and no ethical restraints in spoiling game announcements for everyone, but this doesn't mean he knows squat about high-level analysis of sales and performance of games. That's stuff executives would know, and you can bet executives know what an NDA is and don't go blabber to a podcaster who is bound to tell everyone everything he hears.

 

[j.k.2021]

It's funny how clowns here will accept any negative Xbox speculation as truth without any verification but a spokesmen of a public traded company refuting a known journalist must be a lying.Pathetic

 

[Miyazaki’s Slave]

Stop the port begging.

Lul....

I have an actual copy of the game I bought on Steam (I am helping!!!!) and three copies installed on the various xbox consoles around the house.

Not all of us game on a 8 year old pc and an xbox one..... (look I just made stupid assumptions like you did)

 

[MasterCornholio]

EviLore

After what's happened can we ban Grubb as a source again?

Really hate it when stuff like this happens.

 

[hyperbertha]

Now I'm 100 percent sure it flopped.

 

[Robb]

Grubb got smacked down quick on this one;

I really hope it did well though, I’d love to see a sequel (or more games in the same vein) from Tango.

 

[onQ123]

Financial reports come out in the next week or so maybe we can see the numbers

 

[analog_future]

Weird how people feel the need to generalize "GAF" so much.

Just a funny observation. Doesn't have to be serious business.

 

[bender]

Ya'll really shouldn't blindly believe everything you hear on the internet.

Yes ya'll should.

 

[digoutyoursoul]

Honestly as long as they make a hi fi rush 2 idc. I wanna see them do different genres, a rap sequel would be fucking sick. Like if DJ hero and devil may cry had a baby sick. Then they could do a dubstep one, I hate dubstep but as far as Rhythm games go it has its place. Could make it like an anthology series of different music genres, that’d be so cool.

But then idk because licensing is a bitch, surprised they even got the songs they managed to get the first time around.

I’d like them to do a Recore sequel if possible with Hi-Fi art style or work with Rare on a Kameo reboot

 

[hyperbertha]

"Hi-Fi RUSH was a break out hit for us and our players in ALL key measurements and expectations. "

Yes, I'm reading "all key measurements and expectations" as including sales performance and that directly refutes Grubb.

break out hit can mean anything. We know it was a hit. But it sure doesn't confirm sales performance. Besides he is a pr guy. Anything out of his mouth should be taken with a grain of salt, just like the other guy.

 

[Chukhopops]

Lul....

I have an actual copy of the game I bought on Steam (I am helping!!!!) and three copies installed on the various xbox consoles around the house.

Not all of us game on a 8 year old pc and an xbox one..... (look I just made stupid assumptions like you did).

What assumption?

Put it on PS....feels like a PS game anyway.

This is port begging by definition. Anyway I’ll leave it at that.

Interesting to see the parallels between this thread and the one where Sony addressed the PSVR2 preorders story. There was also zero number yet the other thread got closed instantly.

 

[SmokedMeat]

But…but…YouTube guy said he heard something.

 

[adamsapple]

Financial reports come out in the next week or so maybe we can see the numbers

The financial reports don't give out numbers for individual games, but the departments.

But that's not really what you're interested in at all anyway

 

[Topher]

break out hit can mean anything. We know it was a hit. But it sure doesn't confirm sales performance. Besides he is a pr guy. Anything out of his mouth should be taken with a grain of salt, just like the other guy.

I specifically pointed to his "all key measurements and expectations" statement. I didn't say anything about him calling it a "break out hit". But if you don't want to believe him then that is up to you.

 

[Kikorin]

To be honest I've no idea how you could say if a day one Gamepass release is a success or not. Best I can think is to watch how much people downloaded it and played for more than 5(?) hours? I doubt someone subscribed to Gamepass just to play it, except for maybe some action game enthusiast.

I don't want to downplay the game that seems awesome, but I'd be curious to know how MS can know if a release like that one has been a success or not, considering sales were super low for sure.

 

[fermcr]

After this update by Microsoft, lot of people must be felling like idiots... myself included.

If Microsoft claim the game was a success, then good for them.
In spite of the praising reviews, I thought the game would flop.

 

[Abriael_GN]

I think you should all keep in mind that "insiders" don't really care about informing you. They gain nothing from simply sharing information. All they usually care about is accruing clout and engagement, furthering their personal gain/podcasts/websites etcetera. They will lie, distort reality, and present their speculation as stuff they "heard" if it fits their goal.

 

[Punished Miku]

I specifically pointed to his "all key measurements and expectations" statement. I didn't say anything about him calling it a "break out hit". But if you don't want to believe him then that is up to you.

He had a Crash avatar one time so obviously anything he says is objectively false.

 

[onQ123]

The financial reports don't give out numbers for individual games, but the departments.

But that's not really what you're interested in at all anyway

But they do mention their success

 

[skit_data]

Well, it didn’t make much sense to begin with.
If MS would indeed have been pointing at sales figures and deem them too low I would seriously start to question wether they even know how their own business is operating.

Jeff Grubb needs to sort out his sources and it probably wouldn’t hurt to make damn sure he’s 100% on the money before speaking on the subject matter.

Edit: I deem it rather unlikely Greenberg would outright lie officially, simply because it would be outrageous of him to do so as a representative of a publically traded company. That combined with the claim not making sense leads me to believe what he says is way more plausible.

 

[Ansphn]

Someone's lying about this game and I can't tell who.

Of course it's Greensburg. The man is a known liar. I believe Grubbs over Greensburg anyway.

 

[Miyazaki’s Slave]

What assumption?

This is port begging by definition. Anyway I’ll leave it at that.

Oh, I can see the confusion. I was just offering an opinion on how the game could sell more actual copies (regardless of validity of the youtube person or whatever).

I can play stuff everywhere (consumersaurs-rex here for sure), but if there are games I like (and I LOVED HFR) I want them to get as much exposure as possible. That's why I suggested it.

Carry on!

 

[DeepEnigma]

Weird how people feel the need to generalize "GAF" so much.

Projection 101.

 

[Lasha]

Refuted requires giving actual numbers, not meaningless vague statements like "trust me, the numbers are so great that we can't even share them".

Especially, coming from Greenberg who plays the role of Internet Xbox fanboy better than VP of anything and has been publicly contradicting himself for the last 10-15 years.

If you believe the public should know the success or lack of success of your software or hardware, share the numbers. But, refusing to do that while saying things are selling "well", is just hoping for your audience to be gullible.

Why? The original accusation was vague and made no specific claim about the game's sales.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

Jeff Grubb just got Bloomberg'd on his info by Greenberg who is known to use VGChartz when celebrating Xbox Sales

What a time to be alive

 

[DeepEnigma]

Jeff Grubb just got Bloomberg'd on his info by Greenberg who is known to use VGChartz when celebrating Xbox Sales

What a time to be alive

We have to be living in a simulation.

 

[azertydu91]

That's a real dilemma...On one hand I don't believe Grubb but on the other Greenberg is like a pathological liar...

 

[Punished Miku]

That's a real dilemma...On one hand I don't believe Grubb but on the other Greenberg is like a pathological liar...

I heard Greenburg murdered a man behind an Arby's in 1988.