Totally agree here.
It is a framerate compromise.
My logic was based on the fact that the additions to the PC version would be something new they would add to the PS5. Right now the PS5 can only render FW @ 4k/30FPS. If we disregard the different biomes and locations (which are subjective anyway), then the PC will offer a better graphical experience with the same clarity of 4k but at 60FPS or higher. There is no denying that FW is an iteration above the previous game and not a generational leap like people assumed.
I have no idea how you define 'rendering quality' since you clearly do not include geometrical detail in that which at least I see as a core aspect of 'rendering quality' and one of the true bottle-necks in previous generations of games. HZD on PC does not come close to the geometrical detail of HFW on the PS5. How much GG has been able to push geomtrical detail on the PS4 in HFW is something that I am not sure about (it looks pushed based on images but I am not able to qualify it). What I am sure about is that the PS5 version is a true generational leap here - if you add the amount of quality of textures on top of that, the visuals really are stunning.
How about things like vegetation (which yes was improved on the PC port, but may not be of same fidelity as here), or the deformation of snow and sand (which was present only as an alpha version in the DLC)? Don't they factor at all in the presentation? Or the water, and that you can be under it?
It doesn't work like that. Reconstruction pass is not free, it's far from it, so performance overhead is way more than 38%.
I don't think they had a choice. They probably knew hardware production was going to be low.
That's because the first game is bland and empty. I hope this is better but I am being pessimistic.
not according to the DF analysis. 5:36 onward.
Rendering quality is usually evaluated as having high samples everywhere. So high resolution, high AA samples, high RT samples, high texture filtering samples (i.e. 16x), etc..
He's talking about clarity, due to the massive difference in IQ.
So despite geometry, vegetation density/quality, water, characters, clouds and lighting being a generation ahead (according to DF), Horizon Zero Dawn on PC still offers a "better graphical experience" because it's 4K and 60fps..
PC version has deformation. I think the vegetation is the same quality just different assets. I can install the game and try doing comparisons. I think they took a lot from the PC version of HZD and applied it to the PS5 version of HFW.
A racing game in 30fps no thanks.
"the difference is much more pronounced than we typically see, it`s NOT just about the pixel count"
I never said that. The only thing you mention here that is clearly a better implementation is the.water. Geometry? Clouds? The lighting has a light rig around the character's face. The PC version solves that GI light probe problem with a better form of AO. A lot of these enhancements are from the PC version of HZD. Can we at least admit that?
Holy shit the foamGG really took the water criticism of the first game personally because wow did they knock this out of the fucking park.
And they went a step further under water.
Wait...so you do not include geometrical complexity in 'rendering quality' despite being a core bottle-neck and one of the things everyone and their mother is trying to push? That was one core aspect that made the UE5 demo look so good. It is one of the core aspects that make HFW on the PS5 look so good. And it is one of the core differences between the PS4 version of HFW and the PS5 version.
...but HFW uses 12 pre-baked GI passes as opposed to 6 on HZD.
Bad implemented motion blur is really bad.
Well DriveClub exists and the framerate was not a issue at all.
holy fuck
How can any reasonable person say that Horizon ZD on PC looks similar to this?
Rendering quality usually means samples. Geometry is just geometry. But yes, I do consider geometric detail as important.
It's not just the moss, even the single leaves are more detailed, in the ps4 they are just a grean leaf shaped object with zero details.
Who knew moss would be one of the defining features of our age. All these years I looked down on moss, but little did I know how impressive it really is.
Whatever graphical showcase in there il choose having this
There are many Hi-Res comparisons in the written Digital Foundry article. Draw Distance are the same.
So outside of better characters models and textures, also nothing about the 12 pre-baked GI passes vs 6 on HZD. Got it.
Any source for this?
Well, no. Guerilla never made that awful deformation present in the PC version, they did it here and it's in fact much better looking. What enhancements exactly are from the PC version of HZD?
Yea they are essentially faking "offscreen" reflection where SSR would fail. It is clever.
This one is gameplay btw. Credit to imapioneer from the other side.
Score one for rim lighting. This level of detail and character lighting during gameplay is a step up not only from the first game but other games as well.
Is it the same on performance mode? Are you there any hits to that mode aside from resolution?
