Mossybrew
Member
I kinda disagree here because I usually never use block or parry moves in games if I don't have to, just never like being defensive other than dodging, enjoy staying on offense, of course this is just my preference.
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I kinda disagree here because I usually never use block or parry moves in games if I don't have to, just never like being defensive other than dodging, enjoy staying on offense, of course this is just my preference.
Represent.
Represent(ative) of bad opinions
this gun felt fucking AWESOME. got my rambo on tonight.
James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
Holy sheeeet
That tideripper boss battle from the SP mission was incredible
So much great work went into these bigger machines
That tideripper boss battle from the SP mission was incredible
So much great work went into these bigger machines
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
ajanke
Member
Lol, was browsing the Horizon sub Reddit and saw someone reference it. Some dude clipped through her clothes in photo mode and she has fully rendered nipples haha.What video are you watching?
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
Well, attention to detail is important
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SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Yeah i fully maxed out the melee skill tree and it still takes forever to build up the resonator charge. Human enemies and robots both ignore my hits and continue on with their attacks. Combos are basically useless since they are easily interrupted.
What’s funny is that they fixed the melee in the dlc by simply increasing the spear damage and letting you add up to two spear damage coils to boost it even further.
Anyway, I just they got ability to do what I’ve been asking for some five years now and it is fantastic. The visuals don’t take a big hit. They manage the draw the distance with fog and it rains a lot when you are up there but there is something majestic about roaming above these towering machines at this level of fidelity. There is still some pop in on occasion but overall the game simply looks awe inspiring. Hope they had increased the speed for the ps5 like that Spider-Man demo but i think the fact that pop in is still there on Ps5 likely means they need to do an engine overhaul.
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SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
A returnal style dash system would’ve gotten you back in action faster than a dodge roll. I think bloodborne really benefited from this as well.
T0minator
Member
I've put in 40hrs and STILL I'm blown away by this game every time I boot it up.
Guerilla did an absolutely incredible job on HFW. It's unfortunate it launched with bugs. I'm glad the devs worked on and continue to work on any issues (issues that I personally have no seen in the game myself during my 40hrs) .
This game's world is incredibly well crafted and a joy to explore. Every PS4/PS5 owner owes it to themselves to explore this world. It's truly something special, especially on PS5.
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GymWolf
Gold Member
Journalists saying that melee is useless and i'm here wrecking havok with the level 3 melee surge valor, lmao.
Also, if you want to apply elements, the fast small bow with the 3 arrow shotgun ability is one of your best choices, i got a purple one with fire, thunder and acid elements after a sidequest with the desert tenakt.
Also, if you want to apply elements, the fast small bow with the 3 arrow shotgun ability is one of your best choices, i got a purple one with fire, thunder and acid elements after a sidequest with the desert tenakt.
GymWolf
Gold Member
Why in the hell would you even render a nipple that nobody can't see??
These dutchies at guerrillla are horny people
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I set off a massive explosion on a Tremortusk and took its health down to about 1/3rd with one of those lol. Did it on a Thunderjaw too and took nearly half of its health out.
Vick
Gold Member
They probably wanted to spare PC modders the hassle later on, and also do an infinitely better job themselves.Why in the hell would you even render a nipple that nobody can't see??
These dutchies at guerrillla are horny people
And at least we now know the canon appearance of Aloy's boobs, and they're a damn 10/10.
Seriously, hope they won't patch this innocuous thing out.
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I agree. While playing last night I discovered all these new layers to melee and combat in general that I ignored and I am glad I did.
MidGenRefresh
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Quick rant from someone who liked Forbidden West so much that he decided to revisit Zero Dawn. Note: I didn't like Zero Dawn when it first released, and I think it's because I played it right after Breath of The Wild...
I wanted to test this theory so yesterday I decided to play some Zero Dawn on PS5 via backward compatibility. I've spend around 3-4 hours and got to Meridian. Today I woke up with a fresh mind and wanted to continue my progress when I realised that I also have this game on Steam. So I decided to fire it up on PC just to see the difference and HOLLY MACARONI there's a massive difference.
I'm a little pissed that Sony don't give their first party catalogue the love that it deserves. Surely PS5 can run the game at max PC settings with 4k resolution.
The version that's available on PS5 is simply fugly in comparison. Low resolution, pop-in everywhere, low-res textures, shitty draw distance, claustrophobic FOV.
The game itself is actually very similar to Forbidden West. I was shocked how similar it is. I will drop my playthrough on PS5 and start fresh on PC.
Screw you, SONY!
I wanted to test this theory so yesterday I decided to play some Zero Dawn on PS5 via backward compatibility. I've spend around 3-4 hours and got to Meridian. Today I woke up with a fresh mind and wanted to continue my progress when I realised that I also have this game on Steam. So I decided to fire it up on PC just to see the difference and HOLLY MACARONI there's a massive difference.
I'm a little pissed that Sony don't give their first party catalogue the love that it deserves. Surely PS5 can run the game at max PC settings with 4k resolution.
The version that's available on PS5 is simply fugly in comparison. Low resolution, pop-in everywhere, low-res textures, shitty draw distance, claustrophobic FOV.
The game itself is actually very similar to Forbidden West. I was shocked how similar it is. I will drop my playthrough on PS5 and start fresh on PC.
Screw you, SONY!
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
That's not a bug because those components can/do get destroyed. So, to summarize:
- Easy Loot Off = You have to tear the destructible components that you want to save and loot.
- Easy Loot Off = You don't have to tear the destructible components that you want to save and loot. If the components are still attached by the time the machine dies, you will be able to loot them.
For example, the Slitherfang has Earth Grinders underneath its neck / above its belly. Right below the Earth Grinders, however, is an acid sac that you can destroy. When destroyed, the acid sac triggers a big explosion that can also often destroy the Earth Grinders. Whether the Easy Loot is on or off, that component will be destroyed. So you will have to kill the Slitherfang another way, without triggering the explosion and risk that component loss.
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That's also true but I had multiple instances where parts disappeared. Hell, I even had an entire machine disappear. I killed it with elemental acid attack and it died when it was underground never to re-emerge again. And it had a quest item...
On a side note. Playing Zero Dawn now. Feels like more Forbidden West. I'm liking it a lot actually. Looks amazing on PC. Sony, why you don't patch your games to properly utilize PS5?
Vick
Gold Member
Textures are actually exactly the same, they were insanely hi-res in the original on PS4 Pro.
The much superior AF on PC however truly make them shine.
Resolution it's CB4K, higher resolution than most 60fps games on PS5.
Draw distance difference is not exacly night and day and was quite incredible for a PS4 game at the time, but at times appear more significant because shadows are rendered further on PC, and shadows themselves are also sharper.
Biggest differences are the superior water reflections and interactive foliage, but for the latter the effect itself is quite cheap looking.
Remember the game is basically free on PS5, in order to improve (outside of AF) a paid Remaster would be certainly made. And considering PC performances, maybe the rock solid 60fps patch the game got on the Console is preferable as is, also to avoid potential downgrades like what happened with the Legacy of Thieves Collection.
The game still looks amazing at 60fps on PS5 regardless.
All Gameplay, no Photo Mode.
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Vick
The difference is so big that I was willing to abandon 5 hours of progress and start fresh on PC. Image quality is infinitely better. I'm playing in 4k with DLSS set to quality and picture is razor sharp.
Small things like the ability to scale your HUD (it's too big on PS5) or to increase the FOV just elevate this game for me.
Performance is rock solid. This game was patched like a hundred times since it was released.
A real shame that when working on improvements for PC port they didn't took the time to translate some of that to PlayStation.
Vick
Gold Member
Yeah i guess i have to thank i never hooked the PC to the KRP, i don't see any difference whatsoever in resolved detail as it's razor sharp on PS5 as well, perhaps even too much. The real difference is how clean IQ is thanks to DLSS and that's definitely noticeable.
For me it's the improved LOD and reduced pop-in, that for sure help the experience, along with water reflections personally. Was framerate before.
Yeah, i now it got patched by GG themselves but:
Still not ideal. Later Sony PC ports have been much better.
Yeah, Sony absolutely sucks when it comes to these things.
But to be honest, i'm not even sure PS5 could run the raw Zero Dawn code at Native 4K and Max Settings at a rock solid 60fps.
I'd rather take a proper Remaster on PS6, with redone facial animations and other things here and there to bring it on the same level of Fobidden West. There's always the PC version in the meantime.
Anos Voldigoad
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That was last year. We're on 1.11.2 now. Played it for 5 hours. Flawless experience. It was complete trash at release.
Vick
Gold Member
That's awesome to hear. Haven't played the version in ages and, as a matter of fact, just barely tried it for some hours before realizing my PC was not up to the task Max/4K/Rock solid 60fps. Hell, only bought it last year after knowing about the interactive vegetation mentioned in a post here on GAF (skipped it entirely at launch due to negative feedback) and again recently after the DLSS support. I guess the flawless performance now are mostly due to DLSS?
Nice to see it's still supported though, fingers crossed for a flawless Forbidden West release now as these games really deserve it.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
1/3rd? Use it with the critical hit valor surge and advanced precision arrows and you can take down even the biggest robots in two hits lol
If you use it with chain reaction valor surge, you can kill entire herds in one hit.
Its by far the most op skill in the game and it is going to get nerfed for sure.
ABrokenToy
Member
Man, I really wish Guerilla would let you change outfit colors on the fly once you buy the dye. Pretty lame you can't do this and have to go to a dye maker each time. Booooo.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Now we know why there is some shimmering issue. Because all the GPU power went into rendering these beautiful, perfect nipplesBetter version:
assurdum
Banned
Err believe me people is not more used to Horizon CBR, even me, after we have played most of the ps5 with TAAU at 60 FPS. I defended with all myself the sequel in the 60 FPS mode but the problem it's not the dynamic 1600CBR but the whole CBR of Horizon. Vegetation is unwatchable even with 4k CBR in the first Horizon. I replayed it today and goosh what a shitty noisy mess. All the foliage seems drawn inside a grid of noise, it was annoying especially in the high contrast scenes when the lighting cross the trees foliage. Something I forgot it after so many months on ps5 games. Using the resolution upscaling of the Tv unfortunately worse the things even more.
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Vick
Gold Member
Worth it.Now we know why there is some shimmering issue. Because all the GPU power went into rendering these beautiful, perfect nipples
35 hours in
- Stealth has basically been completely nerfed to the point where going in guns blazing is often the best option in most situations.
- Enemy health seems really unbalanced. They need to give all the enemies a bit of a reduction. Too many fights just feel like slogs.
- Valor surges and weapon skills are a bit of a fail. Having to go into the menu and find the surge you want is so annoying that I just end up using toughness and nothing else. I almost never use weapon skills because they require too much thought in the heat of battle to know which ones I have and how they apply.
- Can we get rid of carry capacity in games? It’s fucking annoying and only creates friction in the experience.
- Why do I have to watch an animation every time I activate a valor surge?
- This game desperately needs load outs.
- Stealth has basically been completely nerfed to the point where going in guns blazing is often the best option in most situations.
- Enemy health seems really unbalanced. They need to give all the enemies a bit of a reduction. Too many fights just feel like slogs.
- Valor surges and weapon skills are a bit of a fail. Having to go into the menu and find the surge you want is so annoying that I just end up using toughness and nothing else. I almost never use weapon skills because they require too much thought in the heat of battle to know which ones I have and how they apply.
- Can we get rid of carry capacity in games? It’s fucking annoying and only creates friction in the experience.
- Why do I have to watch an animation every time I activate a valor surge?
- This game desperately needs load outs.
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After playing this for 30 hours, i have to say some critics have got this game spectacularly wrong. I am not talking about the score in general, just the complaints.
Story progresses well and goes in the direction one would expect after the first game. World is beautiful and filled with NPC that for the first time dont look like robots and have some genuinely great story to tell. Every single new machine design is breathtaking and it seems to me that some difficulty is also raised as they are quite aggressive ( fits with story line as well). Most of the complaints were either Story or bugs. I have to say few bugs here and there, game has been in great shape. They should not have released 60 fps option if it wasn’t on the same level as 30 fps at the moment. People on PS have played 30 fps for more than a decade now and it never hindered any sales. Stability of Elden Ring is in worse state and yet it didnt matter for it.
I think this is one of the games which will be remembered for more fondly once people progress to the end and fully experience it. Its not ground breaking but it does everything great and is better sequel. So to get lower review than its predecessor is not something i find correct ( although 88 in isolation is great score)
Story progresses well and goes in the direction one would expect after the first game. World is beautiful and filled with NPC that for the first time dont look like robots and have some genuinely great story to tell. Every single new machine design is breathtaking and it seems to me that some difficulty is also raised as they are quite aggressive ( fits with story line as well). Most of the complaints were either Story or bugs. I have to say few bugs here and there, game has been in great shape. They should not have released 60 fps option if it wasn’t on the same level as 30 fps at the moment. People on PS have played 30 fps for more than a decade now and it never hindered any sales. Stability of Elden Ring is in worse state and yet it didnt matter for it.
I think this is one of the games which will be remembered for more fondly once people progress to the end and fully experience it. Its not ground breaking but it does everything great and is better sequel. So to get lower review than its predecessor is not something i find correct ( although 88 in isolation is great score)
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
- Stealth is very OP.
- You can tweak the damage you deal to enemies to fix this "issue" with you. The settings are in accessibility > difficulty > custom
- It wasn't really an issue for me. I had the Warrior Valor Surge that improves Critical Chances and Damage. Then I just hit the Valor Surge before entering a battle.
- Carry capacity: I agree. The Stash is a very good improvement, but this whole mechanic is just weird in all games and needs to go.
- Valor Surge animations are cool, especially for the Crit one. That one is the best.
- Agree. I hope they patch in load outs as soon as possible, just like Sucker Punch did with GoT.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Couldn't have said it better. It's a travesty that the game is now scoring lower than HZD when it is a marked improvement over the first game in every respect: animation, side quest quality, world, world density, NPC dialogues, stories, and cultural influences, combat, weapons, etc.
Topher
Gold Member
I'm right around 30 hours myself and I agree 100%. So far this game is fantastic. The story is great. The voice acting is excellent. The game play keeps getting better and better as you progress through the game. If I am going to complain about something then it is probably the navigation system. It can be hard to follow at times and other times makes me run way out of the way to get to my destination that is close. Other than that and the occasional bug I'm having a blast.
James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
I really dont understand any complaints against the story.
It is awesome Sci Fi stuff. Really builds on the first game excellently. Really wasn't expecting the direction they went with it either.
It is awesome Sci Fi stuff. Really builds on the first game excellently. Really wasn't expecting the direction they went with it either.
Magic Carpet
Gold Member
Just completed Faros Tomb.
What in the holy heck?
That was some weird Black Mirror stuff.
What in the holy heck?
That was some weird Black Mirror stuff.
ManaByte
Gold Member
Where do you get that outfit?
I've put in 40hrs and STILL I'm blown away by this game every time I boot it up.
Guerilla did an absolutely incredible job on HFW. It's unfortunate it launched with bugs. I'm glad the devs worked on and continue to work on any issues (issues that I personally have no seen in the game myself during my 40hrs) .
This game's world is incredibly well crafted and a joy to explore. Every PS4/PS5 owner owes it to themselves to explore this world. It's truly something special, especially on PS5.
ManaByte
Gold Member
Because parts of it are total rip offs of other SciFi movies:
HADES explaining how this is the fifth reset is right out of The Matrix where the Architect says the same to Neo.
and
When Aloy overrides the Sunwing and flies into the Arena area it's right out of Avatar.
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Story it's ridiculous. Like some bad fan fiction. I love it.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Yep. I love how they go excruciating detail to answer every question the player might have. I don’t care for dialogue trees in side quests but after major story beats, i went and clicked every single dialogue option and all of it was well thought out and interesting.
The first game had this too but in holograms and i remember watching them all as well. It pains me to see people talk about the story in horizon games as an afterthought because they put in far more effort into it than any other developer save for maybe naughty dog, cd project and ten years ago BioWare.
I finished the first game back when they patched the 60 fps mode for the first time in almost five years and the post credit ending heavily hints at the direction the story takes in the sequel. Then i replayed from the beginning on PC and Gaia pretty much tells you that the extinction signal came from space in one of the cutscenes. I’m so glad they went in that direction because that’s exactly why i love this scifi setting so much. Its half game of thrones, half interstellar. I mean who is doing that right now in gaming??
T0minator
Member
I believe I got it up in the snowy mountain area from a seller. I'll have to double check when I get home 
Jayjayhd34
Member
Just finished it awesome game from start to finish.
Mossybrew
Member
45 hours in, level 34, on Faros Tomb main mission but going back to do some side missions and errands. A lot of side missions open up if you go back and revisit previous settlements. This game is bursting with quality content, its unreal. Still finding new biomes, taking way too many photos. I can honestly say Forbidden West is one of my favorite games ever made. Amazing.
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