I enjoyed Batman v Superman more than Civil War, who is with me?

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benjipwns said:
One thing I liked about BvS was when the ship was going all crazy as Lex was making Doomsday or whatever, so what does the media and a whole bunch of other people do? Immediately go stand outside it. Because the last time alien ships did weird shit in Metropolis nothing went wrong.

Also, the media constantly reporting how they don't know what's going on but will continue talking and speculating about events continuously anyway. Most realistic part of the movie.
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My fav was when they told the audience the area was abandoned because it was after working hours. THANK GOD IT'S AFTER 5PM OTHERWISE THERE WOULD'VE BEEN PEOPLE!
 
Drensch said:
I thought Martha had a good chance of going, and they "killed" supes.

I thought Rhodey was dead, but nope all OK. Well Antman, Hawkeye, and Falcon are trapped, nope. Well I guess we'll have to see if Tony and cap's conflict gets resolved, nope "we're all good" letter.

I liked both movies. But there's nothing to go from in civil war. Everybody is OK, out of jail, on good terms.

In BvS I felt like there was more interesting things left unresolved. And tried more, civil war seemed safe and by the numbers, whichi totally understand from Marvel's view. Cap 2 was more risky and interesting to me.

Both movies could have cut scenes, neither was perfect. Civil war had more constant pacing. But I certainly enjoyed BvS more.
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Wait wat. Good terms.
 
Best part of Lex was him intentionally deeply slashing his hand just so he could dramatically show Superman that he used his blood to make Doomsday.
 
benjipwns said:
Best part of Lex was him intentionally deeply slashing his hand just so he could dramatically show Superman that he used his blood to make Doomsday.
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well he is a drama queen in this movie.

honestly i found lex one of the more entertaining things about the movie. it was jarring how different he was from any lex i knew but eisenberg was having fun with it. could have done without that last scene of his. personally i think that scene specifically is where he crosses the line from good camp to awful shit.
 
I actually like the idea of Martha getting killed. Batman swoops in, kills a bunch of henchmen, and then KGBeast goes "fuck this", lights her up and takes the emrgency exit out of the warehouse. Supes can hear her cries of pain and agony and goes fucking IN on Bats, who is now without powerarmor. He gets rekt.
 
neorej said:
I actually like the idea of Martha getting killed. Batman swoops in, kills a bunch of henchmen, and then KGBeast goes "fuck this", lights her up and takes the emrgency exit out of the warehouse. Supes can hear her cries of pain and agony and goes fucking IN on Bats, who is now without powerarmor. He gets rekt.
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The End.


In JL Batman gets resurrected by Rasgul and they have to cure him from the effects of the Lazarus pit. In his dreams, he's haunted by little Bat Martha's.
 
neorej said:
I actually like the idea of Martha getting killed. Batman swoops in, kills a bunch of henchmen, and then KGBeast goes "fuck this", lights her up and takes the emrgency exit out of the warehouse. Supes can hear her cries of pain and agony and goes fucking IN on Bats, who is now without powerarmor. He gets rekt.
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"No Superman, he found my only weakness, I can't save Marthas! Or Jason's."
 
they should just go full alternate timeline injustice with their justice league films.

who cares. we already have marvel doing it conventionally. do we really need the exact same thing but with a DC re-skin? there's like 15 movies between DC and Marvel (not even counting Fox here either) alone coming in the next 5 years lmao.

fuck it whatever. have them be their normal selves in their solo movies and then let zack snyder shit all over his justice league movies with evil dictator superman and mad max justice league. it would be a cool experiment to watch, though most likely bad movies.
 
Discotheque said:
they should just go full alternate timeline injustice with their justice league films.

who cares. we already have marvel doing it conventionally. do we really need the exact same thing but with a DC re-skin? there's like 15 movies between DC and Marvel (not even counting Fox here either) alone coming in the next 5 years lmao.

fuck it whatever. have them be their normal selves in their solo movies and then let zack snyder shit all over his justice league movies with evil dictator superman and mad max justice league. it would be a cool experiment to watch, though most likely bad movies.
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I love evil JL so good.
 
BvS was a really good comic book movie. I really enjoyed Civil War (Cap is the only part of the MCU I find interesting anymore, well and Spidey now) but it still had that Marvel assembly line feel.
 
I enjoyed them both, to close to pick one or the other because both are just that damn good(in my eyes, opinions and such) both have their faults and both have really big highs.

So I can't give an edge to ether because I love both universes and comic book movies in general.
 
Discotheque said:
they should just go full alternate timeline injustice with their justice league films.

who cares. we already have marvel doing it conventionally. do we really need the exact same thing but with a DC re-skin? there's like 15 movies between DC and Marvel (not even counting Fox here either) alone coming in the next 5 years lmao.

fuck it whatever. have them be their normal selves in their solo movies and then let zack snyder shit all over his justice league movies with evil dictator superman and mad max justice league. it would be a cool experiment to watch, though most likely bad movies.
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He'd have to answer to the most dangerous man on the internet: Angry Joe.
 
ReiGun said:
Most would say yes.
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yeah but that idea doesn't sound so exciting to me anymore. i've got cartoons, or comic runs for that.

i for one am starting to consider the idea of following zack snyder on this ship to the end. it's clear going by BvS that he's not interested in going with "what works" and instead instilling his own nihilistic viewpoints on these characters instead.

now whether or not this ship is the titanic is a different story lmao. we'll see how it goes.
 
Discotheque said:
yeah but that idea doesn't sound so exciting to me anymore. i've got cartoons, or comic runs for that.

i for one am starting to consider the idea of following zack snyder on this ship to the end. it's clear going by BvS that he's not interested in going with "what works" and instead instilling his own nihilistic viewpoints on these characters instead.

now whether or not this ship is the titanic is a different story lmao. we'll see how it goes.
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Yeah, but I think BvS killed any chance of Synder being able to just go his own way unbothered. WB is going to be breathing down his, Terrio's, and whoever else's neck.

We may not get a Marvel style movie in JLA, but it'll definitely be more of a crowd pleaser.
 
ReiGun said:
Yeah, but I think BvS killed any chance of Synder being able to just go his own way unbothered. WB is going to be breathing down his, Terrio's, and whoever else's neck.

We may not get a Marvel style movie in JLA, but it'll definitely be more of a crowd pleaser.
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yeah no doubt but shooting is already underway. i think that terrio script will be fairly intact.

now justice league 2 hasn't been written yet, that will be so much more different if the first one has a similar reception to this movie.
 
Cabbagehead said:
Lex jr being hypothetical is a different matter (He's the son, not the man). Its not even treated in that way. He's just does stuff out of character despite his actions. Plus if we excuse every villain with that scapegoat. Then when is that a character trait or bad writing.


Anyways it was a mistake to get rid of that scene in the movie and they could have gotten of rid of some fluff in return. But like I said it would contradict his presented movie motives. Though they were thin as it was.
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No offence but the theory that the "real" Lex is someone else is as dumb as the theory that Joker is Jason Todd. Lex's dad has had a bunch of different names in the comics, it doesn't really make much difference if it's Lex Sr in this incarnation (unless we're going to go into weird ass Crisis on Infinite Earths territory).

Maybe I'm just not remembering everything but I don't really think Lex was that all over the place. The Mother Box scene definitely should've stayed in though but that's the biggest problem with the movie anyway, god awful editing.

benjipwns said:
One thing I liked about BvS was when the ship was going all crazy as Lex was making Doomsday or whatever, so what does the media and a whole bunch of other people do? Immediately go stand outside it. Because the last time alien ships did weird shit in Metropolis nothing went wrong.

Also, the media constantly reporting how they don't know what's going on but will continue talking and speculating about events continuously anyway. Most realistic part of the movie.
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Ha, reminds me of when there's a tsunami warning and people rush to the beach to watch. People are dumb.

And yeah, Lex definitely knew Batman and Superman's real identities.
 
Firemind said:
Wait, Rhodey survived that chest wound? LMAO couldn't even kill him off in the end. At least it's a subverted trope
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What chest wound? He was wearing armor, it destroyed his power core.

...and I can't believe I was banned for a month for forgetting to tag a description of a scene in Deadpool but all the Civil War spoilers are going unchecked. What a place.
 
I rather enjoyed BvS and don't think it's anywhere near as bad as it's rep makes it out to be, but holy hell was Civil War on another level in almost every way.
 
Civil War is really just another Marvel superhero movie, in the end. BvS at least tried to take superhero movies in another direction, even if it didn't really succeed at that. I liked it much more than Man of Steel, though.

Civil War is just okay, it's safe.
 
There was a huge difference. BvS is a Synder film with piss jars and Jolly Ranchers but has nothing else to offer. Civil War is probably the best crossover film in a long time.
 
IdreamofHIME said:
...and I can't believe I was banned for a month for forgetting to tag a description of a scene in Deadpool but all the Civil War spoilers are going unchecked. What a place.
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Wouldn't you assume there would be Thor: The Dark World, Civil War and Batman v Superman spoilers in a thread that's comparing the viewing experience and enjoyment of the three?
 
MrS said:
A level below BvS, you mean?
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In what crazy world? After seeing Civil War tonight I couldn't stop thinking how much more effectively it handled the same basic themes BvS attempted to deal with. Namely, how the general public is affected by the actions of superheroes, the true impact of the collateral damage the heroes leave in their wake, the real-world implications of superbeings running around unchecked with no regard for laws or borders, the contrasts between how regular people view them and how they see their role and justify their actions, and different heroes' competing and even incompatible views and motivations.

If anyone really thinks BvS handled any of this better than CW, especially considering how BvS' only real character of substance is Bruce Wayne, I'd pay a hell of a lot to get my hands on the cut that they saw.
 
TheDanger said:
Yeah I'm really not all that picky when it comes to acting skills, especially in superhero movies, I watch Flash and Arrow, I have seen some shit.
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I fucking love this. Just unabashed recognition and acceptance. OP that alone makes you opinion that much more valid to me. I don't agree with you, but I respect you.
 
BvM movie is wors but i liked them about the same. If Spiderman and Black Panther were not in CW then i don't think i would have liked it as much.
 
BvS's flaws are (IMO) mostly in the realm of filmmaking itself. It's just not a well-paced, directed, or edited film. I can ignore silly things like how disjointed the exposition of both the main plot and the fringe lore is, or what a bizarre take on Lex Luthor we have in Jesse Eisenberg, but I feel like on an objective level, the filmmaking itself is subpar here.

I haven't seen Civil War yet, so I can't compare them, but I have serious doubts that BvS has anything on CW.
 
benjipwns said:
Wouldn't you assume there would be Thor: The Dark World, Civil War and Batman v Superman spoilers in a thread that's comparing the viewing experience and enjoyment of the three?
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I went into the Dark Souls 3 thread the week it came out and the people there still found a way to talk about the game and compare it to other ones while using spoiler tags.

The whole reason we have spoiler tags is for threads like this.
 
jon bones said:
The gulf between them is massive:

BvS is a heavily flawed movie with 20 minutes of solidly entertaining action in there somewhere.

Civil War has dethroned The Dark Knight and is now the new gold standard for comic book movies.
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This thread refuses not to be comedy gold.
 
takriel said:
Civil War is really just another Marvel superhero movie, in the end. BvS at least tried to take superhero movies in another direction, even if it didn't really succeed at that. I liked it much more than Man of Steel, though.

Civil War is just okay, it's safe.
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I haven't seen Civil War so can't comment if true, but if true ironically Civil War was Marvel's attempt to be daring cos they thought BVS would make them look lazy.
 
TheDanger said:
Disclaimer: I never really read a comic book, just some bits and pieces recently.

I have been to Civil War first and it was really great, Batman v Superman somehow wasn't on my radar at all, watched it with 0 expectations and shit that movie is hot fire, I pretty much liked everything about it.

I re-watched lots of MCU movies recently so maybe it was just the darker tone for a change, but I fucking love the MCU, all of it.

I thought Man of Steel was mediocre, but yeah I liked Bat Affleck and Superman was also way more interesting this time around, didn't even know about
Wonder Woman and Doomsday, that was a really nice surprise.
Some of those scenes were just breathtaking. When you saw
the Flash
I lost it, I really didn't expect that.

It surprised me more often than Civil War did, that's for sure and not just with who was in the movie, I need to watch both again, but for now BvS comes out on top, not by far or anything, but I just enjoyed it more.
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I'm with you. Civil war has espectacular action sequences, but it left me with a sensation of meh, I wasn't sold on the motives of the characters enough to care except for Spidy (been so poor and wanting to meet the other heroes and Black Panther). However, in BvS, the first 20 minutes sold me completely the characters of Bruce/Batman, his absolute hate for Superman and the way he deals with criminals, I know a lot of people hated the fact that Batman kills in the movie, but because I'm not comic book fan I was more open minded and more accepting of this new approach... maybe?, anyway, that scene plus the fight between the two of them and the rescue of Martha were for me more exciting than any action sequences in Civil War so, despite all the flaws of BvS, I felt more satisfied with that one than CW, and don't get me wrong, CW is the best movie, no question, it's just that it dissapointed the hell out of me.

So yeah, you're not the only one OP.
 
Zen_Arcade said:
I went into the Dark Souls 3 thread the week it came out and the people there still found a way to talk about the game and compare it to other ones while using spoiler tags.

The whole reason we have spoiler tags is for threads like this.
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There's no gameplay or level design component to films. The plot is arguably the most important part of storytelling.
 
Both villains were non-canon, but Civil War didn't have a fucking annoying frat child as a villain...

ding ding ding Ding Ding, Ding Ding DING DING!

What in the fucking shit was Snyder smoking when he made up that shit?
 
Civil War did a so much better job at setting up the conflict. In BvS I had the feeling the whole fight could have been prevented if Superman had just taken more time to explain himself to Batman.
 
Schweinehund said:
Going to see CW probably this Sunday.

Disappointed people can't be respectful to each other when talking about comic book movies.
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Without giving anything away, the plot to Civil War plays out much like BvS so the comparisons are going to be made non-stop. It isn't really a matter of respect as much coincidence. Reviewers already comment on it and everyone online is sure as hell going to comment on it.

WaterAstro said:
Both villains were non-canon, but Civil War didn't have a fucking annoying frat child as a villain...

ding ding ding Ding Ding, Ding Ding DING DING!

What in the fucking shit was Snyder smoking when he made up that shit?
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Not much of a defense but Snyder had more set up in the deleted scenes about Darkseid but they were inexplicably left on the cutting room floor along with Lex's motivations even making a lick of sense.
 
ReiGun said:
Yeah, but I think BvS killed any chance of Synder being able to just go his own way unbothered. WB is going to be breathing down his, Terrio's, and whoever else's neck.

We may not get a Marvel style movie in JLA, but it'll definitely be more of a crowd pleaser.
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I kinda hope the director's cut remedies the criticisms. Maybe if the director's cut is well received as rumours that the initial 3hr cut were it might let Snyder's vision proceed
 
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