10% roughly is what is expected.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/core-i7-4770k-haswell-performance,3461.html
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10% roughly is what is expected.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/core-i7-4770k-haswell-performance,3461.html
theSlacker
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I'm more interested in how it handles and puts out heat. If it is 10% and overclocks as reliably from chip to chip as sandy then that would be amazing. Like ivy, and disappointing but still good. Worse then ivy then...
DietRob
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Great thank you.
Anyone can guess
It depends a lot on the heatpipe GPU in question. Our very own Smokey did the testing of his 580 LE's in an FT02 vs. 500R, and the temps dropped by well over 30 degrees. I did testing of a 560Ti TFII in an Arc Mini as well as an FT03 with roughly the same CFM In/Out, and temps were 20-25 degrees lower at load (I can't remember the exact amount, and I can't find the link to my test on OCN).
IIRC, the ASUS heatpipe coolers work well (though still not as well as horizontal). What you want to avoid are coolers where the highest portion (in vertical orientation) is physically shorter with a smaller fin area like this:
The cards in your link are designed to work with blowers still, despite having heatpipes, which is why they do well in the vertical orientation.
If barbs: 1/2" ID tubing
If compression: 7/16"x5/8" tubing
Awesome OP. I know this thread is popular now with Bioshock, and I'm trying to update my rig for both that and FC3. I'm no expert in building (my brother built this for me), so the easier the better (as in, the less I have to swap out, like the mobo, the better). But money is no object.
Here is the rig, any insights would be delightful:
-windows 7
-core i7 950 (3.18 ghz with stock O/C)
-gtx 295 (O/C)
-6GB DDR3 1600 Mhz RAM
-Velociraptor 300 GB 10,000 RPM HDD-
-evga x58 mobo
Here is the rig, any insights would be delightful:
-windows 7
-core i7 950 (3.18 ghz with stock O/C)
-gtx 295 (O/C)
-6GB DDR3 1600 Mhz RAM
-Velociraptor 300 GB 10,000 RPM HDD-
-evga x58 mobo
Yeah.
Could try OC'ing your 950 to the 4.0 range. It's pretty similar clock for clock with Sandy Bridge/Ivy Bridge. Then just get a new videocard, and wait for Haswell. The GTX 670 or 7970 would be an excellent improvement for you.
A high frequency processor will help your performance in those two games dramatically, so that's where I'd start.
How much do you want to change? Add an SSD, get a current high-end video card, and bump up that overclock, and you should be more than fine for those games. Otherwise you could get a new motherboard and CPU as well, but it's certainly not necessary.
Omg. I knew they were coming out with an upgrade to the k60 too. That k70 is perfect. That's exactly what I was looking for when I decided on the CM Quickfire pro. Dammit. My wife will kill me if I buy another keyboard.
I want it so bad
LiquidMetal14
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Got the filters in. Really fast follow through with FrozenCPU.
I just ordered them like late Tuesday and received them today.
I did another quick clean up (an hour lol) as I just went and did some maintenance the other day but I wanted to get more dust out before putting these in.
My wife got her new charger cord for the camera we've had laying dormant for a year so I will be taking pics in a bit.
I just ordered them like late Tuesday and received them today.
I did another quick clean up (an hour lol) as I just went and did some maintenance the other day but I wanted to get more dust out before putting these in.
My wife got her new charger cord for the camera we've had laying dormant for a year so I will be taking pics in a bit.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Will keep it in mind. Bare in mind I'm still messing around with the settings as it's been a year since I used it. I will be taking pics of the build sometime when it charges more. Took a pic with flash and one without as tests. I also got rid of that time stamp ><
These are 6.1mp 16:9 as I didn't want 4:3 at 8.1mp.
Should have downsampled lol
Damn the PSU i was planning on using with my prodigy won't fit
Can anyone recommend me a good PSU for use with a 7970 and 3770k?
Edit: for reference its was a XFX 850W black psu
That PSU is way overkill. 'Ll leave suggestions to others, or you could keep it and use a PSU extender on the back to let it fit (but it'll stick out)
Eg http://www.frozencpu.com/products/7798/cpa-252/Lian_Li_Power_Supply_Extension_Bracket_-_Black_PE-01.html
LiquidMetal14
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Not sure where to find that option. I see long time exposure, exposure metering, AF zone, ISO speed is AUTO, and sharpness normal.
So, Blu ray drives. I have never had use for one in any of my own builds but a friend of mine I am building a system for expressed interest.
So, a few questions:
1) How is movie playback via bluray drives on PC? I read a few comments saying playback on these drives was always subpar but I'm not sure if that is just random, uninformed internet jibberjabber.
2) Most of these drives seem to come w/o software. What is the best free/cheap software to play back bluray movies?
So, a few questions:
1) How is movie playback via bluray drives on PC? I read a few comments saying playback on these drives was always subpar but I'm not sure if that is just random, uninformed internet jibberjabber.
2) Most of these drives seem to come w/o software. What is the best free/cheap software to play back bluray movies?
It's not so much HOW MUCH I want to change, just that I want the change to be easy.
Like I probably don't want a SSD just to avoid having to move things over. I do think I misstated my OC though, believe it's around 4.0 now.Two recs so far:
Which one exactly?
Same question.
And for both of those, if it could just be plug and play (take out my current ones and put in the new ones) that would be greater.
I meant that you should OC your processor to the 4.0 range. I'd ensure that this is indeed the case before looking at upgrading that.It's not so much HOW MUCH I want to change, just that I want the change to be easy.
Two recs so far:
Which one exactly?
Same question.
And for both of those, if it could just be plug and play (take out my current ones and put in the new ones) that would be greater.
With Haswell only 2.5 months away, I don't think it's worth you upgrading your motherboard/processor right now. Going with just a video card upgrade would be where you want to start, and then look at rebuilding when the new processors launch.
And yes, any new video card you buy will just go in and work no problems. You'll want to probably remove all of your current drivers, everything in C:\NVIDIA, and then install the latest batch as well.
so i have a few questions id like to ask
first id like to see what PCGAF thinks of my current PC .
i7 3770k
Coolermaster case
power supply 550w
16 GB ram
HD 2tb
motherboard Asus P8Z77-V
GTX 660 2GB
Windows 7
what do you think?
2) now while the 660 is a great card i mainly chose this one to remain within budget limits
so say i want to upgrade next year 2014
should i buy a new card then or wait till HASWELL is out ?
if so which would you recommend based on my build above ?
Also perhaps a very noobish question:
do graphic cards become hotter the higher you go power wise when not overclocked?
ex. does a 680 run much hotter then my 660 when the latter never goes beyond 60 c°
oh whoops stupid me
let me rephrase that one :should i buy a 700 series or wait till the generation after that one if i want to run next gen multiplatform games smoothly as possible?
first id like to see what PCGAF thinks of my current PC .
i7 3770k
Coolermaster case
power supply 550w
16 GB ram
HD 2tb
motherboard Asus P8Z77-V
GTX 660 2GB
Windows 7
what do you think?
2) now while the 660 is a great card i mainly chose this one to remain within budget limits
so say i want to upgrade next year 2014
should i buy a new card then or wait till HASWELL is out ?
if so which would you recommend based on my build above ?
Also perhaps a very noobish question:
do graphic cards become hotter the higher you go power wise when not overclocked?
ex. does a 680 run much hotter then my 660 when the latter never goes beyond 60 c°
oh whoops stupid me
let me rephrase that one :should i buy a 700 series or wait till the generation after that one if i want to run next gen multiplatform games smoothly as possible?
Haswell is a CPU, and since you have a 3770K, there's no reason to upgrade that.
Just wait for the next series of video cards which will be out in 6ish months, maybe a bit longer, maybe a bit shorter.
Though more heat is a byproduct of more watts, how hot the card runs entirely depends on the cooler.
Just wait for the next series of video cards which will be out in 6ish months, maybe a bit longer, maybe a bit shorter.
Though more heat is a byproduct of more watts, how hot the card runs entirely depends on the cooler.
Your build looks great. I'd save your money and just stick with what you have.
It depends upon the individual card. In theory, more power = more heat, but some of them have better cooling solutions than less powerful/older cards thus are better. The only way to really know is read some reviews and look at some benchmarks for individual manufacturer's variations.
Don't know why, but decided to try this site out and just re-create the build I have. Wish you could choose where you were deciding to purchase each part, since it doesn't always come down to price (usually, but not always).
The monitor model isn't the same, but looking at the specs and it looks to be equivalent. I believe everything else is spot on.
Compatibility notes is a pretty cool feature, but I wonder how often people buy parts and there is still a problem....anyways, pretty neat.
edit:woops, left out my HDD, gotta find that on list and edit in...and added
We can only really guesstimate at present but I would imagine your 660 would be good for another generation at worst.
You can if you set it to your preferred merchant list.
I would think so, by at least an inch probably.
yeah, would just be nice if you could choose each on individually. it's all or nothing is all I could work out. I bought most my stuff at microcenter, and a select few on amazon. Would be nice to work it that way.
Yeah. that's about right I'd say.
As in stick further out? Seems to vary, with my 212 it does but from looking at some images on Google it doesn't seem to, just depends I guess on your system.
Thanks! An inch above the card looks about right. Going to order one now.
Yes, by at least an inch
I would always consider it safest to disable the on board sound. I probably would just leave the drivers there, but that's really up to you.
YuriLowell
Member
Just picked up a Rosewill ThorV2 case to replace my broken P180.
The reviews looked great and the price was pretty good.
The reviews looked great and the price was pretty good.
Great, going to put in an order now then. Thanks!
NarcissisticJay
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Hello Friends.. been doing some research and wanted to get some input on my soon to be upgrade.
I've now completed my monitor purchase, going a 5760x1080 setup. Looking for Eyefinity or Surround Vision.
I've always been a Nvidia guy on the graphics card front but Ive been reading and seeing price points of the cards Im looking at and.. well, need some direction.
Looking at the 680 4GB version - its about $529.
Other option is 2x 7950s @ $269 each.. how are these in Xfire? but these both come with Crysis 3 and Bioshock at that price. I already own both games so Im guessing ebay can snag me at least $100 in total for both of the cards.
So its about $440 for the 2 7950s or $529 for the 680.
Coming from a 480 btw.
Seems like the right move to go to AMD for the first time in my life!
Someone reassure me!
Also, Im on an i7920 @ 3.8 - no bottleneck issues there, right?
Thanks in advance ~~
I've now completed my monitor purchase, going a 5760x1080 setup. Looking for Eyefinity or Surround Vision.
I've always been a Nvidia guy on the graphics card front but Ive been reading and seeing price points of the cards Im looking at and.. well, need some direction.
Looking at the 680 4GB version - its about $529.
Other option is 2x 7950s @ $269 each.. how are these in Xfire? but these both come with Crysis 3 and Bioshock at that price. I already own both games so Im guessing ebay can snag me at least $100 in total for both of the cards.
So its about $440 for the 2 7950s or $529 for the 680.
Coming from a 480 btw.
Seems like the right move to go to AMD for the first time in my life!
Someone reassure me!
Also, Im on an i7920 @ 3.8 - no bottleneck issues there, right?
Thanks in advance ~~
It would figure...
Accidentally ordered the wrong motherboard from Newegg.
Ordered an Asus Maximus Gene IV, when I needed the Asus Maximus Gene V. The V supports 3rd gen i7, while the IV does not. Is Newegg pretty good about handling unopened refunds? Just need to ship the IV back as soon as I get it.
Accidentally ordered the wrong motherboard from Newegg.
Ordered an Asus Maximus Gene IV, when I needed the Asus Maximus Gene V. The V supports 3rd gen i7, while the IV does not. Is Newegg pretty good about handling unopened refunds? Just need to ship the IV back as soon as I get it.
If you want a multi GPU set up go nvidia, AMD is broken now and won't be fixed until at least June (although SLI isn't perfect as you'll see from the links below). For a single card AMD is still the best with the 7970 but for two right now go nvidia. Two 4GB 670s would be nice or even two 3GB 660s or 660 Ti.
For info about AMD it's worth reading this
http://techreport.com/review/24553/inside-the-second-with-nvidia-frame-capture-tools
http://anandtech.com/show/6862/fcat-the-evolution-of-frame-interval-benchmarking-part-1
http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphi...ils-Capture-based-Graphics-Performance-Testin
NarcissisticJay
Member
They are fantastic.
You're asking this at a very confusing time.
http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphi...ils-Capture-based-Graphics-Performance-Testin
http://techreport.com/review/24553/inside-the-second-with-nvidia-frame-capture-tools
tl;dr, get two NVIDIA cards right now if you want to play games on three monitors.
At that resolution, you will have a slight bottleneck on two 670s, which is the card setup I would suggest. The bottleneck will be from PCI-E 2.0. A single Titan will give you a card that most likely will stand the test of time much better than two 670s though. If you wait, there might be a Titan Jr. that is coming out within a few months.
NarcissisticJay
Member
Appreciate the quick response.
From what I've read I cant tell if a single 680 is enough to pay at that resolution comfortably.
About $650 is my max - any suggestions on what the best purchase would be?
NarcissisticJay
Member
Gah, didnt realize the lane would already be a bottleneck :/
Do I need to wait and consider a full rebuild?
Was hoping for one more graphics card update before the rebuild
You could get two 3GB 660 Ti's but I'm not sure if 3GB will cut it across those monitors, 4GB might be needed but mkenyon can chime in.
For the 660 Ti this is what I was looking at http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127708
Haswell is out June so leave any rebuild until then. Your current set up would, at least for me, be acceptable until that time.
Everything I've seen shows zero benefit to the larger memory SKUs compared to the standard ones. They run out of rendering gas before lack of VRAM becomes a major issue.
Gigabyte Windforce or ASUS DCII.
It's not significant, we're talking 10%ish.
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