Yeah i have updated the bios twice since i first got it. I currently have the latest one. It's a pretty dodgy motherboard really. :\
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"I need a New PC!" 2013 Part 1. Haswell, Crysis 3, and secret fairy sauce. Read da OP
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Yeah i have updated the bios twice since i first got it. I currently have the latest one. It's a pretty dodgy motherboard really. :\
appaws
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I've been following the frame latency/inside the second stuff from the beginning, so I get where you are coming from.
But since he is comparing CPUs using the same GPU setup for each one...it does not seem that egregious a problem to me. All of the frame timing problems have been squarely pointed at video cards and not CPUs, so comparing different CPUs paired with the same, let's say a 570....
Would we see frame variances due to the CPU...? Hmmmm...maybe I actually agree with you...
The 8XXX has eight cores, but they're weak cores. The 3570k has four, but they're powerful. One thing that can happen is that if the game is well threaded the 8XXX may match the Intel, but if there is a sudden bottleneck in one thread the 8XXX will have much higher latency (FPS drop I guess) than the Intel CPU.
In poorly threaded games the AVG FPS may be slightly lower, but the big bottlenecks will probably be much worse on the AMD CPU. We know the eight core Visheras are more powerful in raw power than four core Ivy, but the difference is in games where the work isn't perfectly planned out. In Crysis 3 I've seen AMD do better in AVG FPS, but much worse in MIN and drops.
CaptainZombie
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In the last 2 weeks I've moved my setup to the Fractal Design Node 605, then just bought the modular PSU Corsair CX600M. I am about ready to get a new video card. I am currently running with the EVGA 560 2GB which has served me well so far, but games like Bioshock I and Crysis 3 are starting to kick my cards ass.
My setup:
i5 2500K
ASRock Pro 3-M mobo
8 GB DDR3 1333 Mhz RAM
PSU Corsair CX600M
EVGA 560 2GB
I'm considering the 660 TI 2GB or possibly just going with the 670 2GB FTW which I know could last me about 2 years before needing to upgrade again. I was thinking the 7970 could also be an option, but I've been leery with AMD drivers just hearing different things. The issue too is that the 7970 would be too tight in my case, but I can probably squeeze it in there. I'm going to be gaming on a 50 inch HDTV @ 1080p.
Can the 660 TI 2GB last me 2 years or will I run into issues running some of the newer games?
Do you guys think I can get a 770 @ $400 when they release or would they be more than that? If their more than that, at this point due to budget would just look at getting a 670.
Any recommendations or advice?
My setup:
i5 2500K
ASRock Pro 3-M mobo
8 GB DDR3 1333 Mhz RAM
PSU Corsair CX600M
EVGA 560 2GB
I'm considering the 660 TI 2GB or possibly just going with the 670 2GB FTW which I know could last me about 2 years before needing to upgrade again. I was thinking the 7970 could also be an option, but I've been leery with AMD drivers just hearing different things. The issue too is that the 7970 would be too tight in my case, but I can probably squeeze it in there. I'm going to be gaming on a 50 inch HDTV @ 1080p.
Can the 660 TI 2GB last me 2 years or will I run into issues running some of the newer games?
Do you guys think I can get a 770 @ $400 when they release or would they be more than that? If their more than that, at this point due to budget would just look at getting a 670.
Any recommendations or advice?
I tried installing the Lightboost hack. And I'm not sure if I did something wrong.
For example, if a still screenshot looks like this:
What my eyes see is this (the "ball" in front of the paddle on the left side):
Basically, I see a very crisp "trail". I actually had to screencap it to make sure the actual sprite didn't look like that. It's not a blurry trail.
I can see the double images really distinctly browsing the Steam store scrolling chart too.
For example, if a still screenshot looks like this:
What my eyes see is this (the "ball" in front of the paddle on the left side):
Basically, I see a very crisp "trail". I actually had to screencap it to make sure the actual sprite didn't look like that. It's not a blurry trail.
I can see the double images really distinctly browsing the Steam store scrolling chart too.
CaptainZombie
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CaptainZombie
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That's a nice HTPC case, the only negative I see IMO with it is if it were to also be a gaming rig is the lack of fan slots. I do like the placement of the drive cages there.
I'd wait a month and see what the new GPUs from nVidia offer. AMD Drivers have gotten a ton better, but still (imo) suffer from some Day 1 issues. Also CrossFire is completely broken across some games right now. Other than that you get a much better value from a top end AMD purchase (and $100 of free games).
Faster cores can reduce minimum frame latency, yes.
I was looking at it and picked out a few interesting things so I wasn't nearly as critical.
But looking at it from a new viewer perspective (and certainly the purchasing recommendations) I can see where you are coming from.
With a closed loop cooler, yeah.
Absolutely
You can do 4Ghz now on stock or sub stock voltage so that isn't even required. Air with a nice fan is more than enough.
If Haswell is running 1.0V with a soldered IHS it'll only need a dozen ants farting to cool it.
Well, thankfully it's ant season here then! Haswell here I come!!!
I expect it. More and more 4770K OC's are popping up on CPUID
Delidded Ivy's are extremely capable already.
I can't exactly find anything concrete right now, but many think so.
theSlacker
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Hope springs eternal.
BUT ILL STILL PUT IT UNDER WATER
Would everyone here agree with the above PC components for the ultimate gaming PC? Ready to go spend a few grand on it.
Also, I saw Eurogamer (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-vs-the-ultimate-gaming-pc) used an Asus Rampage IV Extreme instead of a Rampage IV Formula for the motherboard for their ultimate gaming PC. Is there any difference between the two?
And for the Titan, the one Eurogamer used is the 6GB EVGA GTX Titan, which I've found for sale here (sold out everywhere else. Is this a good Titan graphics card since there's a few brands selling Titans. Also, it says Superclocked, so is that good or bad?
Extreme is for when you really really really know what you are doing for overclocking. Adds in features like LN2 mode, cold bug start. Formula has everything you could want for overclocking unless you are doing subzero cooling or have a degree in electrical engineering.
All titans are the same. Superclocked means its slightly overclocked already but all titans would be able to achieve the same and more
Not really going to overclock. Just want it to be ready as it is; mainly going to use for gaming on 4K resolution and video editing. Are either of those motherboards fine then if I'm not going to overclock and do I need to overclock; what benefits would it give me for the Titan?
Are the other components other than the Titan and the motherboard the best possible? Getting 64 GB of RAM and a few TB of SSD fyi.
On what screen are you going to play 4K? also if you are dropping this money you might as well go Quad sli titan
Also "a few tb of ssd" you know that goes into 2/3k region per tb right.
Yep, I know.
For the monitor, I need a 2160p monitor if I'm not mistaken. Looking around for one, and once I do, going to order 3 of them for my setup.
If you really have no concern for money an cant be bothered to overclock then get a 3970x and get as many titans as you want. You would also want a proper RAID controller for your several TB of SSDs.
Not overclocking is literally throwing 700 dollars away. A $300 3770k overclocked will out perform a $1000 3970x. Also that many SSDs is absurdly expensive.
I dont know your budget but EIZO has a pretty decent 4k screen. its 35k and you need to import from japan tho.
So with the 3970, http://www.ebuyer.com/398407-core-i...ium=products&gclid=CNCk6YDgi7cCFcXKtAodk1QA2g, I should only get it if I don't want to overclock? Can I overclock the 3970 itself?
Yes you can overclock it. It comes at a higher clock rate than the 3930k stock but both are overclockable.
Is there a significant difference between the 3930k or 3970k in terms of performance? If I get the latter, will it provide a faster gaming experience and able to handle programs better or what? Sorry, I'm a PC noob.
Even if you got the 3970X you should still overclock it, there is plenty of performance to be had.
It's also cheaper with Novatech http://www.novatech.co.uk/products/...tm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=PCPartPicker
It's also cheaper with Novatech http://www.novatech.co.uk/products/...tm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=PCPartPicker
Chaplain
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I need some help from PC GAF.
I need to buy a new desktop pc today or tomorrow. In the past I built my own computers (from 1999-2007), but I am not interested in doing this this time around because I lack the funds. These are the three computers that I have limited my selection too because I can just walk into the store and pick them up.
Dell - XPS Desktop - 8GB Memory - 1TB Hard Drive
HP - ENVY Desktop - 10GB Memory - 1.5TB Hard Drive
HP - ENVY Desktop - 10GB Memory - 1TB Hard Drive
Here is the link to the comparison of all three Desktops.
I am buying from Best Buy because I have a card their that I can make payments with, with no interest.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. ^_^
I need to buy a new desktop pc today or tomorrow. In the past I built my own computers (from 1999-2007), but I am not interested in doing this this time around because I lack the funds. These are the three computers that I have limited my selection too because I can just walk into the store and pick them up.
Dell - XPS Desktop - 8GB Memory - 1TB Hard Drive
HP - ENVY Desktop - 10GB Memory - 1.5TB Hard Drive
HP - ENVY Desktop - 10GB Memory - 1TB Hard Drive
Here is the link to the comparison of all three Desktops.
I am buying from Best Buy because I have a card their that I can make payments with, with no interest.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. ^_^
Chaplain
Member
Thank you.
What do you think of the GPU in the Dell? Is it good enough for now, or do I need to upgrade it?
You would need to upgrade it for any serious gaming, and that'll depend on the PSU in the Dell too.
Chaplain
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Thank you.
Don't do this. Quad scaling is garbage. Even in a Tri-Titan setup, that third Titan is not adding a whole lot to the performance.
Bruh you trying to start an arms race around here or what
Dependent on the game. Some see a good increase from the third, others not so much.
NarcissisticJay
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So.. I've been in the DAC market.. and an opportunity has presented itself to me, slightly unexpected.
I can grab an "open box" ASUS - XonarEssenceOne for $350
More than I was anticipating to spend, but its a heavy discount for premier item.
Still on the fence about dropping that kinda cash on it.
Sway me one way or another GAF.
I can grab an "open box" ASUS - XonarEssenceOne for $350
More than I was anticipating to spend, but its a heavy discount for premier item.
Still on the fence about dropping that kinda cash on it.
Sway me one way or another GAF.
ZombieSupaStar
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hmmm
current rig is i5 2500k, 8gigs ram, 570gtx, its getting a bit old. I built it for battlefield 3 / skyrim.
I'm not gonna do a full rebuild till the new xbox/ps4 is out for awhile (new engines etc), but I do think I could upgrade my gpu to a 770 and coast on that + above rig for another couple of years? Would jumping from 8 gigs ram to 16 matter much?
current rig is i5 2500k, 8gigs ram, 570gtx, its getting a bit old. I built it for battlefield 3 / skyrim.
I'm not gonna do a full rebuild till the new xbox/ps4 is out for awhile (new engines etc), but I do think I could upgrade my gpu to a 770 and coast on that + above rig for another couple of years? Would jumping from 8 gigs ram to 16 matter much?
The i5 and 8GB are still pretty good, especially if you OC, and a new GPU would definitely give you a big boost.
appaws
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You can. I got no interest for a year from one of the most popular Internet retailers. I'm sure many of them offer it. I don't know if its against the rules for me to say where...?
ZombieSupaStar
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yeah I think im just gonna do the gpu update, I can squeeze a couple more years out of my i5 before it becomes a bottleneck I think. Now to see if the 770 is longer than the 570...
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