There are rumours going around that the overclock-ability will be a lot better due to some changes, but we will have to wait for the official reviews. But imo, its only 2.5 weeks away, just wait it out. If you dont like what you see you can always get an ivy-bridge (also a benefit is that you get a new socket, instead of an old one)
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"I need a New PC!" 2013 Part 1. Haswell, Crysis 3, and secret fairy sauce. Read da OP
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There are rumours going around that the overclock-ability will be a lot better due to some changes, but we will have to wait for the official reviews. But imo, its only 2.5 weeks away, just wait it out. If you dont like what you see you can always get an ivy-bridge (also a benefit is that you get a new socket, instead of an old one)
CreepingFear
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We are most likely less than a month away from Haswell being released. I'd wait if I were you. Some early reviews have shown a small percentage cpu performance increase over Ivy Bridge. If you must get it now though, Haswell doesn't look to blow away Ivy Bridge or even Sandy Bridge for that matter in pure CPU performance, so you shouldn't regret not having the latest and greatest that much.
For a 7750 just go 1GB, it doesn't have the power really to make use of 2GB. It'll just about be ok with that CPU.
EatinOlives
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1. Oh sorry, I meant what checks do I need to do to make sure the components of a new build are compatible with each other. Though I was planning to ask for tips on CPU OCing, so thanks for that too
2/3. We already picked out a few parts but I don't have the list on me, otherwise I would've posted them now. So far I know we're already going to change the motherboard since I'm going to push to wait for the Haswell, which will mean changing the mobo. I'm assuming the Haswell-compatible mobos are coming out right about now?
4. Thanks, I'll look out for that
And again, thanks for the help!
The new Corsair K70 (or the new K95) might be what you are looking for I think: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBplgpok8ro&t=120
Hey guys,
PC just crapped out so I'm off to build a new computer. Just whipped up this potential build (I have 8GB ram and a DVD player already, and I need the firewire card for Pro Tools).
I'm looking to use it to dabble with Pro Tools and do a decent amount of gaming. How do I look?
Total comes to about $850.
Is it safe to pull the trigger? Should I make any adjustments?
Thanks for any help!
PC just crapped out so I'm off to build a new computer. Just whipped up this potential build (I have 8GB ram and a DVD player already, and I need the firewire card for Pro Tools).
I'm looking to use it to dabble with Pro Tools and do a decent amount of gaming. How do I look?
Total comes to about $850.
Is it safe to pull the trigger? Should I make any adjustments?
Thanks for any help!
CreepingFear
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Yep, you caught it. Am I looking good otherwise?
I would change PSU to BP550 and if you can wait 2 weeks get Haswell!
I went with the cx600 for the extra 50w and $10 cheaper price. Any specific reason why I should go with the Antec instead?
Some (or a lot) IPS monitors have a "game" mode that looks kinda crappy (IMO), but reduces processing times (thus, total lag time.)
Here is the review for the Dell 2413
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/dell_u2413.htm
Near the bottom, there's always lag calculations for the tftcentral reviews.
EDIT: If you don't care about viewing angles that much, you could go for a VA panel. I have the BenQ FP241VW and love it. They usually have worse color than IPS panels, I believe, but the contrast is usually much superior, I think. A least for the modern day ones.
Anton668
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the CX series are mediocre psu's. not horribly bad mind you, just... meh. for $10 i'd rather get a much better quality PSU. I have the CX500 and really wish i'd have went another route.
BP550 is modular, a tiny bit more, and although the CX-line has been getting better I'm still not 100% sold on it.
Also wait 2 weeks for Haswell, you are buying a dead socket now.
Thanks for letting me know! I'll definitely get the Antec then.
Am I looking good otherwise?
I'm not sure what 'a dead socket' is, nor what Haswell is.
EDIT: Just looked up Haswell. Sounds good. I guess I'll wait just a bit longer and work on my laptop :-/. Thanks for the heads up guys!
Dead socket = a newer socket will be replacing it and future CPUs will be not be compatible. So if you bought that motherboard and down the line wanted to buy a newer CPU, it would not work.
Thanks!
If I understand that correctly, it means that any previous motherboard I purchase would be rendered obsolete, as no more processors would be made that would fit into that socket, (i.e. a dead socket). Correct?
So if I purchase the build I have now, I wouldn't be able to update it to the Haswell. Is the Haswell that much better?
Thanks for that!
When you say "that CPU" you mean the E8600 I'm upgrading to and not the E4400, yeah? Snagging a 1GB 7750 to go with it will produce:
If the 7750 is about all that E8600 can take then I'm happy with that. Also, I'm not married to the 7750 idea if there's a better option: it's just what I kept seeing on tomshardware.com, and it is a solid card.
Lastly, I'm getting around ~$50 difference between E8400 and E8600. Is that generally worth the .33 GHz difference?
Cheers again
Correct. Haswell is marginally better than Ivy Bridge from what's been leaked so far. The big deals about Haswell is the improvement in it's iGPU, which if you're using on a desktop isn't a big deal as you'll most likely have a discrete GPU. Intel always does this new socket BS. It's one thing AMD has handled better over the years.
Yeah the E8400. For $50 I would say no, don't waste money on an old CPU. Save it towards something newer in the long run.
smokeandmirrors
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Ahhh the smell of new hardware and a fresh windows 7 install... Ninite is literally the greatest thing. Got my 7870 today (amazon bumped me from monday to today so I am pleased) Also got my keys for Bioshock, tomb raider and whatever else.
So I have a weird issue with my case. When I took it out from under my desk to put the CPU cooler in the proper direction, I accidently pulled the front panel off. It's designed so it can be taken off, so it was easy to put back on. However, it now occasionally makes a popping, cracking-like sound. The case is not damaged in any way, so how can I get it to stop doing that?
I'd spend a little extra on the graphics card. Maybe a 7770. I played a bit with the 7750 and it was getting 22-25 FPS on tomb raider and a 20-30 on skyrim.
Skel1ingt0n
I can't *believe* these lazy developers keep making file sizes so damn large. Btw, how does technology work?
Nothing fancy; but I dragged out an extra desk and have set up temporary shop in the garage.
sorry for late response, been a bit busy. That price is tolerable but the drive is out of stock at amazon and running a higher price elsewhere. Aside from the 840 pro, do you know of any other good, reliable ssd's at or (preferably) below the $130 price point at a similar capacity?
830 and m4
Mr. Pointy
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So yeah, both my 6950 1GBs have died for some reason. My old 4870 still works, so I'm rocking that until I get a new graphics card or two. It's a real shit of a thing because I wanted to upgrade my CPU and mobo first.
I'm trying to decide if it's worth going for two 7970 GHz Editions, a single GTX Titan or waiting for the 7990 and hoping it doesn't have coil noise. I'm running two screens, though the second screen is an old 1680x1050 monitor that I have to run TV shows and video, while I game on a 1080p TV.
I'm trying to decide if it's worth going for two 7970 GHz Editions, a single GTX Titan or waiting for the 7990 and hoping it doesn't have coil noise. I'm running two screens, though the second screen is an old 1680x1050 monitor that I have to run TV shows and video, while I game on a 1080p TV.
castaction
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need help guy I have two card(2gig) crossfire , they said i have only 3.1 gig of ram when I'm suppose to have 4gig :S
Your getting confused. Having your gpu's in crossfire doesnt double your vram it still only uses 2. That 3.1g of ram sounds like you only have 4g of ram on your motherboard and you are using a 32bit operating system thats why it only displays 3.1 instead of 4.
Mr. Pointy
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Is that your cards saying only 3.1GB or your OS saying you only having 3.1GB?
Sounds like you have a 32-bit OS.
Horse Detective
Why the long case?
Just as a general question, in the price range of the Fractal R4, are there preferable alternatives?
Horse Detective
Why the long case?
Thanks. I finely put together money to get parts so I am just going to get it then.
Syphon Filter
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smokey,creeping fear what are your steam names?
Letterbomb
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I've been saving up money to build my own PC, and my friend and I finally got to compiling a list. Could you more learned fellas take a quick glance and give me your insight? Keep in mind that I'm not looking for the ultimate machine--just something significantly above common grade that will last me through and through. I don't typically play any AAA titles, just games like DotA, Team Fortress, and etcetera--but I wouldn't mind having the ability to run graphics you'd see on Borderlands 2. (Also note, I will only be playing on 1080p.)
Motherboard: ASUS P8Z77-V LX LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1600 MHz (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory (CML8GX3M2A1600C9)
Power Supply: Cooler Master Silent Pro Gold 800W 80 PLUS Gold Power Supply with Modular Cables (RS800-80GAD3-US)
Internal SSD: Crucial m4 256GB 2.5-Inch (9.5mm) SATA 6Gb/s Solid State Drive CT256M4SSD2
Internal Hard Drive: Western Digital WD1002FAEX Caviar Black 1 TB SATA III 7200 RPM 64 MB Cache Internal Desktop 3.5" Hard Drive
Processor: Intel Core i5-3570K Quad-Core Processor 3.4 GHz 4 Core LGA 1155 - BX80637I53570K
Graphics Card: Nvidia GTX-680 (2GB)
Wi-Fi Card: TP-LINK TL-WN881ND Wireless N300 PCI Express Adapter,300Mbps, WPS Button, 802.11b/g/n, Support 64/128 bit WEP, WEP, WPA/WPA2
Blu-Ray: LG Electronics 14x SATA Blu-ray Internal Rewriter without Software, Black (WH14NS40)
By the way, I don't have any sort of ethernet option for the time being. I have to run on wireless. I know that's a taboo among gamers--or something--but if you have a better selection for internal Wi-Fi cards, that'd be good to know. Any firmware, support, or service issues with any of the products we chose? Give me other any sort of advice you have, as well. I'm roughly in the $1,400.00 range, and would like to keep the budget within that range. Thanks for your help!
Motherboard: ASUS P8Z77-V LX LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1600 MHz (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory (CML8GX3M2A1600C9)
Power Supply: Cooler Master Silent Pro Gold 800W 80 PLUS Gold Power Supply with Modular Cables (RS800-80GAD3-US)
Internal SSD: Crucial m4 256GB 2.5-Inch (9.5mm) SATA 6Gb/s Solid State Drive CT256M4SSD2
Internal Hard Drive: Western Digital WD1002FAEX Caviar Black 1 TB SATA III 7200 RPM 64 MB Cache Internal Desktop 3.5" Hard Drive
Processor: Intel Core i5-3570K Quad-Core Processor 3.4 GHz 4 Core LGA 1155 - BX80637I53570K
Graphics Card: Nvidia GTX-680 (2GB)
Wi-Fi Card: TP-LINK TL-WN881ND Wireless N300 PCI Express Adapter,300Mbps, WPS Button, 802.11b/g/n, Support 64/128 bit WEP, WEP, WPA/WPA2
Blu-Ray: LG Electronics 14x SATA Blu-ray Internal Rewriter without Software, Black (WH14NS40)
By the way, I don't have any sort of ethernet option for the time being. I have to run on wireless. I know that's a taboo among gamers--or something--but if you have a better selection for internal Wi-Fi cards, that'd be good to know. Any firmware, support, or service issues with any of the products we chose? Give me other any sort of advice you have, as well. I'm roughly in the $1,400.00 range, and would like to keep the budget within that range. Thanks for your help!
Mr. Pointy
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Dumb question, when you plug HDMI into a graphics card that has the port built in, should it spark? It is a live connection. I'm hoping it doesn't mean my other computer parts are fucked.
Dude... just wait a month. Don't waste your money on the 680 when the 770 is going to be cheaper and as fast.
Noisy Ninj4
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Generally, no. Sounds like something wasn't grounded that should've been under normal circumstances.
Mr. Pointy
Member
Seems fine. Though the GTX 770/780 comes out in a couple of days, so you might want to wait and see.
Mr. Pointy
Member
Does that mean the PSU and/or motherboard are faulty? Both of my cards are dead so it would have to be one of the two or both.
Well, I'm giving him my extra 680 for free.
Horse Detective
Why the long case?
Nevermind im a dumbass
You're a good friend.
Wait for Haswell
It is expected to be around the 670 price point.
Horse Detective
Why the long case?
Is there a reason for why they would do that?
CreepingFear
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Well, I haven't really streamed yet, just done a few private test streams with OBS. I wasn't using any capture cards though. I don't want to stream unless I can do it in a proper way that will minimize losing fps in games. Ideally, I'd like a computer dedicated for streaming, but I think I might have to settle for the AverMedia Live Gamer HD to take off the load from the CPU for streaming. My stream name is Costanzathemage after my WOW gnome mage.
... because it's replacing the 670?
Horse Detective
Why the long case?
Oh, I just figured since it is a higher number that it was an actual hardware upgrade. My apologies.
Skel1ingt0n
I can't *believe* these lazy developers keep making file sizes so damn large. Btw, how does technology work?
Alrighty, so I've been tinkering in paint....
Thoughts on this loop?
Blue boxes = radiator (360mm on top, 240mm on front)
Blue lines = tubing
White = fans
Aqua blue = pump/reservoir
It's a little messy; but I think if I could get good cuts and perfect lengths with the tubing, it could look really good.
I don't think I'm gonna use the top hard drive cage - as the bottom will hold my two SSDs and any hard drives I decide to add.
So I'll set the pump/res on top the bottom cage. Then, the case comes with a metal "shroud" that will completely hide the cage, pump, and front radiator - so you can imagine any of that being not-visible.
I'm thinking...
PUMP/RES -> 240mm front rad -> CPU -> 360mm top rad -> (gravity starts kicking in) -> GPU(s) -> PUMP/RES
Thoughts?
Also - I want to have fans on the interior of the case. All my reading suggests there is little difference between a push or pull; for aesthetics, I want white fans that are visible. Furthermore, that last stand-alone fan.... in an air rig, I'd have that as an exhaust... always. But should it be an intake in this case?
Thoughts on this loop?
Blue boxes = radiator (360mm on top, 240mm on front)
Blue lines = tubing
White = fans
Aqua blue = pump/reservoir
It's a little messy; but I think if I could get good cuts and perfect lengths with the tubing, it could look really good.
I don't think I'm gonna use the top hard drive cage - as the bottom will hold my two SSDs and any hard drives I decide to add.
So I'll set the pump/res on top the bottom cage. Then, the case comes with a metal "shroud" that will completely hide the cage, pump, and front radiator - so you can imagine any of that being not-visible.
I'm thinking...
PUMP/RES -> 240mm front rad -> CPU -> 360mm top rad -> (gravity starts kicking in) -> GPU(s) -> PUMP/RES
Thoughts?
Also - I want to have fans on the interior of the case. All my reading suggests there is little difference between a push or pull; for aesthetics, I want white fans that are visible. Furthermore, that last stand-alone fan.... in an air rig, I'd have that as an exhaust... always. But should it be an intake in this case?
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